DJ table and truss/overhead bars

[Chris]

Am thinking of getting a 6ft long dj table, combined with the overhead trusses/bars for the lights. Anyone got any personal experience of these please?? Any particular makes and models to look at?

Any help much appreciated.

Chris

[Andy Collins]

All in 1 job then it has to be an Ultimax. Anything less will be inferior and frankly crap.

I had an ultimax for years, they are built to last and spares easily sourced. But with anything, quality costs but will pay for itself in the long term.

[Chris]

All in 1 job then it has to be an Ultimax. Anything less will be inferior and frankly crap.

I had an ultimax for years, they are built to last and spares easily sourced. But with anything, quality costs but will pay for itself in the long term.
Thanks Andy. When you say you had an Ultimax - what happened to it?

[Andy Collins]

I sold it some time ago. But without a doubt if I wanted another, an ultimate would be my only choice

[Chris]

Thanks Andy. Has anyone ever used any of the others? Any of the Rhino models maybe?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

The price difference is not a great deal. Buy Ultimax. It lasts and you can get spares for it.

[Excalibur]

Thanks Andy. Has anyone ever used any of the others? Any of the Rhino models maybe?
Yes. And when you get an Ultimax, you wonder why you ever bought the cheaper ones. Ultimax every time. Simples.

[mattydj50]

Yes. And when you get an Ultimax, you wonder why you ever bought the cheaper ones. Ultimax every time. Simples.

Ditto. I've got an Ultimax Overhead wind-up system and they also made be a custom build stand for my Chauvet Motion Facade cloth. Quality stuff. Wouldn'ty go anywhere else now.

[Chris]

Many thanks for the input - it's appreciated.

When I look at the specs of the ultima and the other ones, I see no difference?

[Excalibur]

Many thanks for the input - it's appreciated.

When I look at the specs of the ultima and the other ones, I see no difference?

Bolt 'em together side by side and then see if there's no difference. You can buy every part of an Ultimax separately, you can buy diferent length cross bars, which effectively gives different width stands, etc, etc,etc.

Every poster so far has voted for Ultimax, and yet you're still convinced that the cheap one is just as good. It isn't, my last word on the subject. :zip:

[Chris]

Bolt 'em together side by side and then see if there's no difference. You can buy every part of an Ultimax separately, you can buy diferent length cross bars, which effectively gives different width stands, etc, etc,etc.

Every poster so far has voted for Ultimax, and yet you're still convinced that the cheap one is just as good. It isn't, my last word on the subject. :zip:
Whoa, slow down, I didn't say I was convinced on anything, I just can't see any differences in the specs!

I may get the Ultimax, just wondering if anyone else here has used the Rhino or Ultimax?

[Corabar Steve]

Ultimax have a patented design & are not the same as any of the others.

We've had 2 of the other sort in the past (one Prolight, one Giraffe) even though our original one (still in use) was Ultimax, as we also thought they can't be that different can they. [insert family fortunes 'wrong' noise here] All our stands are now Ultimax, you can draw your own conclusion.

[Andy Collins]

"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"

People know the cost of everything and the value of nothing...;)

[funkymook]

Another +1 for Ultimax.

[Excalibur]

Whoa, slow down, I didn't say I was convinced on anything, I just can't see any differences in the specs!


Well stick three EFX units on the overhead of a Giraffe/Rhino/Aardvark and rock the uprights. Have you any idea how much more rigid a 32mm pole is than a 25mm one? That test will show you.

You ask if anyone has used both, and I said yes in post #7. Steve has said the same thing more recently.
Look at that, you've made me go and break my vow of silence. Ah well, back to the monastery. :D

[mattydj50]

You can buy every part of an Ultimax separately, you can buy diferent length cross bars, which effectively gives different width stands, etc, etc,etc.
:zip:

And if they don't already stock it , if its feasable they will make it for you. Their after sales service and spares stock is excellent too. If you can hang on that long, go and have a chat with them at BPM.

[TenB]

I was in exactly the same situation about six months ago, and looked at many other stands but bit the bullet and went for Ultimax must say it was probably the best decision I made regarding my Kit its rock solid heavy duty and I have no regrets.:thumbs_up::thumbs_up:

[DJ Jules]

Well stick three EFX units on the overhead of a Giraffe/Rhino/Aardvark and rock the uprights. Have you any idea how much more rigid a 32mm pole is than a 25mm one? That test will show you.

+1 - I've been using a Giraffe stand for the last 5yrs and while it has lasted, it's had to have quite a bit of modification to prevent some very scary wobbling of base & uprights. The cheaper Rhino stands are the worst ones I've seen, the uprights are only about 20mm diameter and they flex like tent poles!!

If I did it all again, I'd go for an Ultimax

Julian

[Chris]

You ask if anyone has used both, and I said yes in post #7. Steve has said the same thing more recently. :D
Yep, correct - and always good to get a few opinions on it, which is what I'm doing. :thumbs_up:


+1 - I've been using a Giraffe stand for the last 5yrs and while it has lasted, it's had to have quite a bit of modification to prevent some very scary wobbling of base & uprights.

Julian
Thanks Julian and others that have inputted on this - am interested in the bit above - what mods did you have done and why did you feel it was necessary? Wasn't the Ultimax strong enough?

[Chris]

+1 - I've been using a Giraffe stand for the last 5yrs and while it has lasted, it's had to have quite a bit of modification to prevent some very scary wobbling of base & uprights. The cheaper Rhino stands are the worst ones I've seen, the uprights are only about 20mm diameter and they flex like tent poles!!

If I did it all again, I'd go for an Ultimax

Julian
I get it now - I couldn't edit the post, so was unable to change it!


Anyways, I had the goalpost type for a few years, but found it almost impossible to set up on your own, due to the fact that you had to lift both sides at the same time. Would the ultimax be any easier to set up on your own?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Is this thread still going?

Haven't you bought an Ultimax yet? :rolleyes::D

[DJ Jules]

I get it now - I couldn't edit the post, so was unable to change it!


Anyways, I had the goalpost type for a few years, but found it almost impossible to set up on your own, due to the fact that you had to lift both sides at the same time. Would the ultimax be any easier to set up on your own?

Yeah, it was the giraffe stand that needed the mods.

Do you mean you needed to lift both of the vertical poles at the same time? If so, the only way around to some extent would be winchpods, but you'd still need two people to crank them up at the same time (correct me if I'm wrong people - I've never had wind up poles?)

Julian

[Chris]

Is this thread still going?
Yep.


Haven't you bought an Ultimax yet? :D
Not yet! :)

[Chris]

Yeah, it was the giraffe stand that needed the mods.
Thanks, I made a mistake - to most sensible people, that wouldn't be a big deal! ;) (and I know it wasn't a big deal to you)



Do you mean you needed to lift both of the vertical poles at the same time?
Yep, and really darned hard - doable, but very difficult!

Wondering if it's any easier with these types of combo stands and overhead bars - anyone here know?

[Chris]

Almost have enough for a 1.7m Ultimax with the overhead truss - £240 is no small beer! One thing though, looking at the images of it on the web, is it tricky trying to sit down at the table with trying to put your legs under the table with those bars there? Also, is there any risk of it toppling forwards or backwards?

[funkymook]

Almost have enough for a 1.7m Ultimax with the overhead truss - £240 is no small beer! One thing though, looking at the images of it on the web, is it tricky trying to sit down at the table with trying to put your legs under the table with those bars there? Also, is there any risk of it toppling forwards or backwards?

Is there a reason you have to sit down? It's not really made for that. And push anything hard enough and it'll topple over, but I've never heard of an Ultimax tipping over in normal use (or at any time really).

[Chris]

Is there a reason you have to sit down? It's not really made for that.
I did a gig a few weeks ago for 7 hours, so yep, would like to sit down occasionally. ;-) Lokks like it would be very awkward to put your feet comfortably under the table, but maybe other people who have these, can clarify?



push anything hard enough and it'll topple over, but I've never heard of an Ultimax tipping over in normal use (or at any time really).
Anything topples when pushed, but some things are obviously easier to topple than others. It's just that, from the limited views on website inages, there doesn't appear to be a heck of a lot of counterbalance at the front or back?

[funkymook]

I did a gig a few weeks ago for 7 hours, so yep, would like to sit down occasionally. ;-) Lokks like it would be very awkward to put your feet comfortably under the table, but maybe other people who have these, can clarify?



Anything topples when pushed, but some things are obviously easier to topple than others. It's just that, from the limited views on website inages, there doesn't appear to be a heck of a lot of counterbalance at the front or back?

You can't tuck your feet under them (and you'd look like a munchkin sitting at a high table on a low chair if you could) and they won't topple over in normal use, that'd be a major design fault and there'd be posts all over the forum like a rash about it.

Like many on here I've used Ultimax stands for years, if that's the style of stand you want then they're your best choice by a mile. But if you can't afford one, or aren't gigging enough to justify it then just get a cheapo £99 one. That's your only two options really, unless you want to start looking at £600 - £800 stands and booths.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have some Ultimax stuff for sale if you'd like to look in the for sale section. It might work out cheaper buying separates...

[DazzyD]

I get it now - I couldn't edit the post, so was unable to change it!


Anyways, I had the goalpost type for a few years, but found it almost impossible to set up on your own, due to the fact that you had to lift both sides at the same time. Would the ultimax be any easier to set up on your own?

I use an American DJ stand and I find it quite easy to set up on my own. It's easier with two people, though, as it's better to build the light bar on the ground and then lift it on the stand. But it can be done putting them up overhead.

[Chris]

I use an American DJ stand and I find it quite easy to set up on my own. It's easier with two people, though, as it's better to build the light bar on the ground and then lift it on the stand. But it can be done putting them up overhead.
Thanks - what's the name of it please?

[DazzyD]

Thanks - what's the name of it please?

It's this:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/american_dj_dj_mts_4_dj_stand.htm

It's not up to the build quality of Ultimax but it's only a fraction of the cost. It's also not a booth. You'd have no chance of sitting down putting your feel under it but it does what I want it to do and it folds down nice and compact.

If you're saving for the Ultimax then stick with it. You'll get better quality for your money.

[Excalibur]

Thanks - what's the name of it please?

Giraffe/Rhino/Aardvark/Womble/Chimera/Dodo.............................................. .............................................

Oops, hang on folks when I take some tablets.

6ft (http://www.soundlightuk.com/shop/products/American-DJ-DJ%252dMTS6-6%22-DJ-Disco-Stand.html)

Or 10Kg higher overhead rating (http://www.djkit.com/ultimax/ultimax-dj-stand-with-trusslite.html?cat=277)

There is absolutely no comparison between a single bar and a dual. Having said that, if you only use LED lights, and nothing that hangs like an EFX, it's less important.

[ian8limelight]

I would fully support all the comments made about Ultimax on this thread. I have used their stands for years and wouldn't consider anything else. They are as 'safe as houses', more than value for money, and for those who can remember their historic promotions, seeing Andy (Tain) hanging from a bar is not a mean feat :):p

[funkymook]

I would fully support all the comments made about Ultimax on this thread. I have used their stands for years and wouldn't consider anything else. They are as 'safe as houses', more than value for money, and for those who can remember their historic promotions, seeing Andy (Tain) hanging from a bar is not a mean feat :):p

How long did he hang for? Did he swing back and forth?

[SC Events]

I used a 4ft Rhino Stand (£89 from decks.co.uk) for 3 years and it was fine.

However, 2 years ago I sold it on as I bought an Ultimax stand. It is just so much more sturdy and as others have said, they have oodles of spares and accessories, so if something should break or you lose a screw, plastic end cap etc, you can get replacements directly from Ultimax.

My advice is buy one... you won't regret it ;)

[Chris]

Has anyone here purchased the Ultimax stand and the overhead lighting truss? If so, what are the colours of each?

[chrisj]

A friend of mine, professional Magic Circle magician, was doing a disco and magic teen party with an ultimax stand on stage in my village hall. He had taken a Twister HP4 of the overhead and one teen came on stage and next thing the stand wobbled forward and fell onto the floor smashing a pair of VR8's still on the overhead beyond repair. He actually brought them to me to look at.

Has anyone ever had a problem with the small footprint of these or similar stands when using overhead with them?

[Corabar Entertainment]

A friend of mine, professional Magic Circle magician, was doing a disco and magic teen party with an ultimax stand on stage in my village hall. He had taken a Twister HP4 of the overhead and one teen came on stage and next thing the stand wobbled forward and fell onto the floor smashing a pair of VR8's still on the overhead beyond repair. He actually brought them to me to look at.

Has anyone ever had a problem with the small footprint of these or similar stands when using overhead with them?
I'm sorry, but that's total and utter rubbish!

The only way it could happen would be if he had done something stupid - like placing the stand on the edge of the stage and it getting a serious shove.

If you think the Ultimax might not be stable enough for you, I suggest you don't buy ANY DJ stand, because it knocks the socks off any of the others in terms of strength, stability and durability (as every single person - without fail - has told you in this thread. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!?)...and yes, we have owned most of them over the years, but every rig was up-graded to an Ultimax in the end.

[Chris]

Also, I asked about the colours, as mine arrived this morning, and unpacking them, see that the stand is black and the overhead lighting truss is silver?? Just seems weird that they don't match in colour?!? Also, does anyone here put these up on their own? Perhaps there's a particular tip for doing it?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You mean you've actually bought one? Thank god for that! :D

[funkymook]

Also, I asked about the colours, as mine arrived this morning, and unpacking them, see that the stand is black and the overhead lighting truss is silver?? Just seems weird that they don't match in colour?!? Also, does anyone here put these up on their own? Perhaps there's a particular tip for doing it?

Surely it wasn't a surprise it came exactly like it does in every single photo - you must have looked at some pictures before buying?

A lot of DJ's work solo - putting up the stand and overhead on your own isn't difficult. This is what I used to do. Build the stand, put the upright poles in to the required height, put both halves of the cross bar together, using a small stepladder pop the cross bar onto the uprights, tighten them up. Add your lighting.

[Excalibur]

This is what I used to do. Build the stand, put the upright poles in to the required height, put both halves of the cross bar together, using a small stepladder pop the cross bar onto the uprights, tighten them up. Add your lighting.

Good advice. Remember though, never never never use venue chairs, subs or boxes as stands. We had a forum member who broke a leg doing so. A small stepladder ( three rungs is fine ) is invaluable. Also, for those of us who are " more generously proportioned ", consider getting a higher quality one. Don't ask me for the British Standards numbers, cos I don't know them, but we have two pairs at home, and one pair isn't capable of supporting my sylphlike figure safely. The other pair is a higher grade, and is safe as houses.

[Chris]

Surely it wasn't a surprise it came exactly like it does in every single photo - you must have looked at some pictures before buying?

A lot of DJ's work solo - putting up the stand and overhead on your own isn't difficult. This is what I used to do. Build the stand, put the upright poles in to the required height, put both halves of the cross bar together, using a small stepladder pop the cross bar onto the uprights, tighten them up. Add your lighting.
No, not a complete surprise, just fairly surprised (not exactly keeping me awake at night though!, that bits that are supposed to go together, don't actually go together, colour-wise!


A lot of DJ's work solo - putting up the stand and overhead on your own isn't difficult. This is what I used to do. Build the stand, put the upright poles in to the required height, put both halves of the cross bar together, using a small stepladder pop the cross bar onto the uprights, tighten them up. Add your lighting.
Thanks for the helpful advice. (Some people do get out of their pram a little when they feel someone else isn't acting on their information immediately!)

I was trying to avoid bringing anything extra like a ladder, but will do now.

[funkymook]

And if you use the same set of lights each time it's really worth pre-wiring the truss. Again very easy, set all your lights up and just cable tie or velcro the power and DMX (if you use them) leads them to the bar. Then they're in place next time you use it.

If you transport the crossbar in one piece then that's it , job done - if you have to split it then just have an IEC connection halfway along.

It really does save loads of time.

[Excalibur]

And if you use the same set of lights each time it's really worth pre-wiring the truss. It really does save loads of time.
And if like me you normally perm any three from nine, the best I can do is to have a few prewired looms. Ah well. :)

[Chris]

And if you use the same set of lights each time it's really worth pre-wiring the truss. Again very easy, set all your lights up and just cable tie or velcro the power and DMX (if you use them) leads them to the bar. Then they're in place next time you use it.

If you transport the crossbar in one piece then that's it , job done - if you have to split it then just have an IEC connection halfway along.

It really does save loads of time.
Nice one! I'll prob have to label the wires in some way, so that I know which lead goes to which light. What's IEC?

[Excalibur]

What's IEC?

See below.

[deltic]

Nice one! I'll prob have to label the wires in some way, so that I know which lead goes to which light. What's IEC?

Probably a bit overkill if you pre wire your overhead as the cables will be in the right place for each light.

[funkymook]

Probably a bit overkill if you pre wire your overhead as the cables will be in the right place for each light.

Exactly - the whole idea is that you don't have to think about anything - you put the light on the bar and the wire is there ready for it, there aren't any other wires that could possibly go into that light.

What lighting do you have at the moment?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Some people do get out of their pram a little when they feel someone else isn't acting on their information immediately!


Immediately?

This is a 6 page thread on a stand where everyone has said buy an Ultimax and it's been going for 6 weeks...:daft:

[Chris]

Immediately?

This is a 6 page thread on a stand where everyone has said buy an Ultimax
Yeah, forgive me for not buying an ultimax, just because others are advising me to! Duh!

[Corabar Steve]

Snotty answers will endear you to nobody.

Let's take your point though.

You asked on 4th June (at a time that the forum was going through a quiet spell). In less than 2 days 8 different people with no vested interest in Ultimax told you to buy one.

DOESN'T THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING?!?!?!?!?

It's not as if you're new to the business or the forum. Some of the folks who advised Ultimax are among the most respected members of this forum (or the disco industry in general for that matter). You should know by now their advice will be good.

Besides the fact that in the year & a half or so you've been with us there have been numerous threads about stands (& IEC connectors)

[Chris]

It's not as if you're new to the business or the forum. Some of the folks who advised Ultimax are among the most respected members of this forum (or the disco industry in general for that matter). You should know by now their advice will be good.
I don't care how many people tell me how good something is - I can still reserve judgement! Get over it!



Snotty answers will endear you to nobody.
Believe me, endearing myself to certain people on here is very low on my priorities!

[Excalibur]

Believe me, endearing myself to certain people on here is very low on my priorities!

That much Sir is self evident. Not a wise course of action.

[Chris]

That much Sir is self evident. Not a wise course of action.
Note the bit, Sir, where it says certain people - this has never meant everyone!

[DazzyD]

Before we go any further off track, let's try and keep the thread helpful.

Martin asked Chris a fair question:


Exactly - the whole idea is that you don't have to think about anything - you put the light on the bar and the wire is there ready for it, there aren't any other wires that could possibly go into that light.

What lighting do you have at the moment?

Maybe an answer to this could help bring some suggestions of how best to plan the overhead light show so as to make it aesthetically pleasing, functional and also create less stress on the overhead bars?

[Chris]

Martin asked Chris a fair question:

Maybe an answer to this could help bring some suggestions of how best to plan the overhead light show so as to make it aesthetically pleasing, functional and also create less stress on the overhead bars?
To be fair, it wasn't clear who the question was directed to, as it was in reply to deltics post, but I don't now have any questions on the lighting side of things anyway.


Before we go any further off track, let's try and keep the thread helpful.
That would be good!
:beer1:

[Excalibur]

Maybe an answer to this could help bring some suggestions of how best to plan the overhead light show so as to make it aesthetically pleasing, functional and also create less stress on the overhead bars?

On that subject, is it the single bar, or the dual trusslite?

[DazzyD]

To be fair, it wasn't clear who the question was directed to, as it was in reply to deltics post, but I don't now have any questions on the lighting side of things anyway.


..

That's a fair point. However, taking it in context, and having read the whole thread again from start to finish, I would think that Martin was simply backing up Andy's (Deltic) comments that he, in turn, had made to you. Also, Andy is a well-established and experienced operator (as is Martin) so I think it unlikely that Martin would be offering to help Andy with his lightshow.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Duh!

Yes indeed, exactly what I was thinking about the whole of this thread.

Useful information from respected members who are all giving you the same opinion on a decent bit of kit to buy.

Duh....

[Chris]

That's a fair point. However, taking it in context, and having read the whole thread again from start to finish, I would think that Martin was simply backing up Andy's (Deltic) comments that he, in turn, had made to you. Also, Andy is a well-established and experienced operator (as is Martin) so I think it unlikely that Martin would be offering to help Andy with his lightshow.
I've never been good at assuming things that I'm not sure about, and it wasn't clear who it was aimed at, so in farness, didn't reply.


Yes indeed, exactly what I was thinking about the whole of this thread.

Useful information from respected members who are all giving you the same opinion on a decent bit of kit to buy.

Duh....
Exactly what I, and others have been thinking as well - how on earth I can be expected to pay out £240, just because others feel I should - duh!


Before we go any further off track, let's try and keep the thread helpful.
You might have to re-emphasise this for some people here! :D

[funkymook]

Exactly what I, and others have been thinking as well - how on earth I can be expected to pay out £240, just because others feel I should - duh!

To be fair though Chris - we're talking about some of the most professional and experienced mobile DJ's you'll ever find in one place all recommending the same product through their own experience of it and of the alternatives. That's pretty conclusive feedback in my book, surely that's much better than having loads of conflicting opinions?

[Chris]

To be fair though Chris - we're talking about some of the most professional and experienced mobile DJ's you'll ever find in one place all recommending the same product through their own experience of it and of the alternatives. That's pretty conclusive feedback in my book, surely that's much better than having loads of conflicting opinions?
To be fair funkymook, thankfully, we all think and act in different ways - I run 3 successful business's, due in no small part, to the fact that I never need to buy something in the same timescale that others might think I should!

[SC Events]

Chris, I can understand your point of view regarding asking for several opinions and then taking time to decide for yourself, however, every one of your posts reads as though the person behind the words is an arrogant :Censored:, especially when particular words are written in Italics.

Now, whether you mean for your posts to come across like that or not, this forum is about helping one another, not getting peoples back-ups like your replies have. Maybe just have another read through what you have written before clicking the 'Submit Reply' button...

You were told by numerous people, including myself, that the Ultimax was the stand to go for, yet here we still are discussing the topic 7 pages pages later!



endearing myself to certain people on here is very low on my priorities!

Saying things like that will only result in forum members refraining from helping you / advising you in the future. I was always taught to treat people how you want to be treated.

[Excalibur]

Chris, I can understand your point of view regarding asking for several opinions and then taking time to decide for yourself, however, every one of your posts reads as though the person behind the words is an arrogant :Censored:, especially when particular words are written in Italics.

Now, whether you mean for your posts to come across like that or not, this forum is about helping one another, not getting peoples back-ups like your replies have. Maybe just have another read through what you have written before clicking the 'Submit Reply' button...

You were told by numerous people, including myself, that the Ultimax was the stand to go for, yet here we still are discussing the topic 7 pages pages later!

One final note, saying things like will only result in forum members refraining from helping you / advising you in the future. I was always taught to treat people how you want to be treated.

Congratulations, Scott. You have encapsulated everything I wanted to say. Well done that man.

As of now, I shall irrevocably :zip:bow out

[funkymook]

To be fair funkymook, thankfully, we all think and act in different ways - I run 3 successful business's, due in no small part, to the fact that I never need to buy something in the same timescale that others might think I should!

Fair enough, next time I'll take my time helping you as well.

[Chris]

Fair enough, next time I'll take my time helping you as well.
I have no problem with that at all. I had a table and light stands before, so was in no rush to buy the new item - sorry if that didn't fit in with your requirements!



You were told by numerous people, including myself, that the Ultimax was the stand to go for, yet here we still are discussing the topic 7 pages pages later!
That's the really comical part of all this - I've said that I've already bought the thing and yet the kindergarten comments still keep coming - you couldn't make this stuff up! ;-)

[funkymook]

To be honest Chris there was a bit of gentle ribbing going on over your lengthy (and sometimes amusing) questioning on buying a fairly ordinary DJ stand - it's a shame you didn't catch on with some of the more tongue in cheek replies and took it all a bit too seriously, so apologies if it rubbed you up the wrong way, but you've been a member long enough to know that help is offered with the best of intentions.

[Shaun]

To be honest Chris there was a bit of gentle ribbing going on over your lengthy (and sometimes amusing) questioning on buying a fairly ordinary DJ stand - it's a shame you didn't catch on with some of the more tongue in cheek replies and took it all a bit too seriously

To be honest, I've refrained from posting on this thread, despite feeling I might have some advice to offer. Comments like the one below are the reason....






Believe me, endearing myself to certain people on here is very low on my priorities!

I' you're not prepared to take on advice from people that have been in the same situation as yourself, or not prepared to try endear yourself to everyone who may offer good advice...I can't help thinking why bother!!. Sorry Chris. I can't help but wonder if the next thread you post like this... you may be be faced with deafening silence.

Best of luck to you and any decision you make.

[Chris]

To be honest Chris there was a bit of gentle ribbing going on over your lengthy (and sometimes amusing) questioning on buying a fairly ordinary DJ stand - it's a shame you didn't catch on with some of the more tongue in cheek replies and took it all a bit too seriously, so apologies if it rubbed you up the wrong way, but you've been a member long enough to know that help is offered with the best of intentions.
To be truthful, ribbing I can take all day long, it's only when it lapses into sarcasm that it gets a tad boring! On a forum that I own that has just over 7,000 members, we put smilies into posts when it goes a little tongue in cheek, just to let the OP know.



I' you're not prepared to take on advice from people that have been in the same situation as yourself, or not prepared to try endear yourself to everyone who may offer good advice..
You seem quite confused - I never said that I wasn't taking on any advice from members here, I was just in NO RUSH to buy the stand! I hope that's okay!

[SC Events]

...and there you go again with your smarmy comments and Italics.

As they say in Dragons Den, "I'm out" and I won't be in a rush to offer any advice to you in the future.

[Shaun]

You seem quite confused - I never said that I wasn't taking on any advice from members here, I was just in NO RUSH to buy the stand!

There's certainly no confusion - I'm only going on what I've read from you and my perception of what I've read. e.g.---> "Believe me, endearing myself to certain people on here is very low on my priorities!"


I hope that's okay!

It's perfectly ok as far as I'm concerned. However, as a casual observer who has been following the thread, certain of your phraseology [like the one I quoted earlier] has left me unwilling to comment any further with advice.

As I said, best of luck to you.

[funkymook]

To be truthful, ribbing I can take all day long, it's only when it lapses into sarcasm that it gets a tad boring! On a forum that I own that has just over 7,000 members, we put smilies into posts when it goes a little tongue in cheek, just to let the OP know.



:D

[Corabar Steve]

Clearly this thread has now run it's course