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mkindy
15-07-2013, 03:52 PM
I had a gig Saturday night, I quoted for a fundraiser (lead came from NAD). Set up at 20:00, start at 21:00 until 00:00 (I ended up starting at 20:30 just because I was ready to go and it was quiet), Sound4Sound is a partnership and my partner was doing sound for a local theatre so thought its local I've got nothing on I'm helping out a charity so I'll take the light weigh gear and I'll do it for £150 as you never know I might get more work from them in he future and I like the local exposure.

When I got there it clearly was a retirement party and prise giving, I didn't say anything as really that should of been £100 more.

What would you of done, moan or keep quiet?

Graeme

funkymook
15-07-2013, 04:06 PM
I had a gig Saturday night, I quoted for a fundraiser (lead came from NAD). Set up at 20:00, start at 21:00 until 00:00 (I ended up starting at 20:30 just because I was ready to go and it was quiet), Sound4Sound is a partnership and my partner was doing sound for a local theatre so thought its local I've got nothing on I'm helping out a charity so I'll take the light weigh gear and I'll do it for £150 as you never know I might get more work from them in he future and I like the local exposure.

When I got there it clearly was a retirement party and prise giving, I didn't say anything as really that should of been £100 more.

What would you of done, moan or keep quiet?

Graeme

Normally I'd check something like that at the time of booking, but if I had doubts I would've asked again what the event was in aid of at the beginning - and if it was obviously a ploy to get a reduced price I'd have given them their money back and gone home. I don't mind helping a good cause but I don't like being taken advantage of.

mkindy
15-07-2013, 04:13 PM
Normally I'd check something like that at the time of booking, but if I had doubts I would've asked again what the event was in aid of at the beginning - and if it was obviously a ploy to get a reduced price I'd have given them their money back and gone home. I don't mind helping a good cause but I don't like being taken advantage of.

I did think about being a grumpy old git about it, but bad news travels fast, and nearly every booking I do I get another 1 or 2 from it.

£150 is still better than siting at home watching casualty.

I might drop the a letter or email saying that maybe I had misunderstood the charity bit ?

funkymook
15-07-2013, 04:27 PM
I did think about being a grumpy old git about it, but bad news travels fast, and nearly every booking I do I get another 1 or 2 from it.

£150 is still better than siting at home watching casualty.

I might drop the a letter or email saying that maybe I had misunderstood the charity bit ?

In that case I wouldn't bother getting in touch with them, you were happy with your fee and that's all that matters really. But if you do make sure you're aware of the difference between a charity event and a fundraiser - the terms are not interchangeable.

mkindy
15-07-2013, 04:32 PM
I wouldn't normally work for £150, but is was a night off and I thought an easy job, and it was to be honest it was a good night had it been one of those dull party's that drag on I might of thought different I suppose.

Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
15-07-2013, 05:01 PM
I don't mind the odd charity gig for a reduced fee but I do make sure when I go in that that's what it's for.

It's never been an issue thankfully but if I quote a charity price and I turn up and it's clearly not a charity night (fwiw I don't think having a rotten raffle counts as a charity night) then I'd bring it up with them.

Bad word travels but if you're in the right (i.e. you've been :Censored::Censored::Censored::Censored:ed) then I wouldn't worry too much about it.

SC Events
15-07-2013, 05:34 PM
My T's & C's state that if we arrive at a venue and the event is obviously different to what was booked, the difference is payable before we begin setting up.

If the money is not paid, they don't get a disco, simple as.

DazzyD
15-07-2013, 06:01 PM
My T's & C's state that if we arrive at a venue and the event is obviously different to what was booked, the difference is payable before we begin setting up.

If the money is not paid, they don't get a disco, simple as.

What he said!!

If the contract states "charity event" and the event is actually a retirement party then the client doesn't have a contract with me. It would be a case of either pay the difference at the start or I walk. And, as the event doesn't match the description on the booking, my T&Cs clearly state it would be deemed to have been cancelled by the client and I'd get to keep the money already paid (although I'd be inclined to donate it to the charity that the function was supposed to have been for! I always take these details down on the booking forms.).

BeerFunk
15-07-2013, 09:05 PM
It raises the separate question, of whether you should discount charity functions at all. In the past, I would have done them for free, but nowadays I'm far less likely to.

Is there anyone else there in the venue donating as much as, say, £100 in one lump sum? Even half that? No. Then why should we? :confused:

funkymook
15-07-2013, 09:12 PM
It raises the separate question, of whether you should discount charity functions at all. In the past, I would have done them for free, but nowadays I'm far less likely to.

Is there anyone else there in the venue donating as much as, say, £100 in one lump sum? Even half that? No. Then why should we? :confused:

I have two categories, they're either a charity I want to donate to or have a connection with, so either free or reduced fee, or a charity I have no personal connection with so I price it like any other gig.

DazzyD
16-07-2013, 07:08 AM
I did a free gig for charity fundraiser a couple of months ago. It was in aid of the children's cancer unit at a local hospital. In the run up to the gig, I did a bit of reseach in to the charity and I've come across some amazing young people who have endured a hell of a lot more in their short lives then most people could be expected to put up with in a whole lifetime. We raised over £5,000 on the night (we had some good corporate sponsors, too!) which is going towards buying specialist equipment which will made a difference to what, in reality, could be the last few months of their little lives. It was very humbling just to have been a part of that.

Mind you, the thing that sealed the deal was that it was a ladies-only night and the only guys in the room, against 300 women, were me, the magician, the singer and the singer's dad!! ;)

djdave01
16-07-2013, 08:39 AM
Is there anyone else there in the venue donating as much as, say, £100 in one lump sum? Even half that? No. Then why should we? :confused:

We only reduce our rates by £20 for charity events. That's probably still more than most people donate on the night.

ppentertainments
16-07-2013, 10:49 AM
We only reduce our rates by £20 for charity events. That's probably still more than most people donate on the night.

How strange ? My charity nights are quoted at a higher price than a standard disco as a lot more work and preperation is required. I only do free ones for two charities which I support - and 80% of my work is fundraising based.

addoaddo
16-07-2013, 10:52 AM
I have two categories, they're either a charity I want to donate to or have a connection with, so either free or reduced fee, or a charity I have no personal connection with so I price it like any other gig.

Totally Agree. It my money so I will donate to to the charity that I choose

djdave01
17-07-2013, 08:08 AM
How strange ? My charity nights are quoted at a higher price than a standard disco as a lot more work and preperation is required. I only do free ones for two charities which I support - and 80% of my work is fundraising based.



Not sure what is strange about it. The charity work ive done usually ends up with me working less, as there are other things going on too.

One I did a few months back had various cabaret type acts on, a raffle, a prize draw and sliding coins at a bottle. I only played music for about 90 minutes.

No charity event ive ever done has meant more work or preparation for me. Reading out the numbers for a raffle isn't exactly hard