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leelive
25-03-2014, 06:58 AM
I charge an extra £100 to add a 45 minute singing performance to my night.

I took my a camcorder and filmed myself at Airth Castle on Sunday.
Apologies for the camera angle.
https://vimeo.com/channels/airthcastledunmore

It was quite an elderly crowd and suited them to be singing along instead of dancing.
I look forward to any comments and suggestions....

If anyone is interested in adding such a performance to their act I will be happy to advise.

All the best

fullcontact68
25-03-2014, 07:23 AM
I charge an extra £100 to add a 45 minute singing performance to my night.

I took my a camcorder and filmed myself at Airth Castle on Sunday.
Apologies for the camera angle.
https://vimeo.com/channels/airthcastledunmore

It was quite an elderly crowd and suited them to be singing along instead of dancing.
I look forward to any comments and suggestions....

If anyone is interested in adding such a performance to their act I will be happy to advise.

All the best

And for those of us who cannot sing? :)

BeerFunk
25-03-2014, 07:30 AM
And for those of us who cannot sing? :)Yes, I would have to deduct £100 if I sang! :p

Good addition if you can do it though :beer1:

Larry B Entertainment
25-03-2014, 08:17 AM
And for those of us who cannot sing? :)

Take along a roadie that can.


Yes, I would have to deduct £100 if I sang! :p



They would pay me a £100 to shut up :o

fullcontact68
25-03-2014, 08:32 AM
They would pay me a £100 to shut up :o

Now, that's a plan!

ppentertainments
25-03-2014, 10:11 AM
If a singer is good - they wouldn't have to DJ
If a DJ is good - they shouldn't have to sing

Sorry but I think there is nothing worse than a DJ grabbing a microphone and belting out a few songs - in fact I gained a really good residency because the previous DJ done just that.

lazersounds
25-03-2014, 11:05 AM
I can earn more than a extra £100 per night in the bushes after the gig :whistle: :Kiss 3: ;)

DeckstarDeluxe
25-03-2014, 11:10 AM
By providing karaoke as well? :D

fullcontact68
25-03-2014, 11:15 AM
I can earn more than a extra £100 per night in the bushes after the gig :whistle: :Kiss 3: ;)

Sounds like your "shafting" the customers lol

Jonny Boy
25-03-2014, 11:55 AM
I'm glad to see these Lee as I've admired how frequently you're booked for a while.

I guess you're looking for criticique rather than flattery. I'll give these a full proper listen later, but my intial comments from a few minutes of some numbers watched on my phone would be:

(1) the vocal seems quite dry - a touch more reverb perhaps? This may be down to the location of the camera - may have been fine in the house.
(2) a couple of pars lighting you from side/front would make it more of a 'show'/focal point.
(3) I like many of your vamps/interactions. Your enthusiasm is apparant, but you body language a bit defensive (diagonal/angled with shoulder to audience quite a lot from the bits I saw.)
(4) I'm picking up a Michael Buble influence on the way you're very sparing with your sustain. Is this a deliberate style choice?
(5) You seem to be struggling a little with some of the low notes in the verse of Sweet Caroline. Might be worth taking your BT up a semitone using Audacity or something?
And, er,
(6) Buy yourself a black handkerchief for mopping, dude. It's too nice a shirt. ;-) :-P

And as an aside


If a singer is good - they wouldn't have to DJ
If a DJ is good - they shouldn't have to sing


OUCH.
Without disrespect, as a Singer+DJ service myself, I can only disagree.
Apols if I've misunderstood your point, PP, but that strikes me a little like saying "XYZ can't be much of a DJ if he's got to distract everyone with uplighting and flashy dancefloors."

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, I say.

surround sounds
25-03-2014, 12:53 PM
I provided a led dancefloor for a wedding around a month ago.
I think the company was called the wedding singer. He was fantastic.
it was a pleasure to watch. One minute he was singing and next minute he was mixing a song into it

DJIanScott
25-03-2014, 05:32 PM
I'm really sorry Lee, but I found your performances average at best. There were lots of missed notes and strange chord changes, and you looked quite nervous/anxious in your mannerisms.

From my extensive personal experience, I would suggest sticking to what you are undoubtedly best (and undeniably successful) at, which is the DJing side of things. I used to do exactly the same kind of show......45 mins of singing to get the crowd warmed up, etc. Like you, I really enjoyed it, I got a real kick out of doing it....until I had some negative (but constructive) criticisms about my performance from a respected source. He also uttered the immortal line, "If you have the real tune behind you in your box, why the hell don't you play that? After all, that's the one they know and love." From that day onwards, I remained behind the booth, playing to my strengths.

BeerFunk
25-03-2014, 06:05 PM
I would say that it would be worthwhile doing early doors, when noone is up dancing anyway. It will keep people entertained. Later on, when people are up dancing, I'd say it's not worth it. It might even make them uncomfortable.

Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
25-03-2014, 06:15 PM
OUCH.
Without disrespect, as a Singer+DJ service myself, I can only disagree.
Apols if I've misunderstood your point, PP, but that strikes me a little like saying "XYZ can't be much of a DJ if he's got to distract everyone with uplighting and flashy dancefloors."

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, I say.

I totally agree

I do vocal sets (and did one on Friday at a wedding as it so happens) and my next gig a week on Saturday is 2 hours of guitar and vocals then DJing.

Not everyone wants that, the vast majority don't but if I can provide that as an optional extra then why would I not?

Can I sing like Buble? No

Can I get a dancefloor up and let people have a cracking time while I sing and do a bit of dancing? Most certainly

Do people see value in what I do? Definitely. I've never once had someone complain or say they wished they'd just stuck with the DJing and I find a lot of the compliments I get on my singing quite hard to believe or take in but I always get great feedback from guests after I'm done and this next gig was booked on the back of me doing some quick youtube videos of me singing in the living room with a guitar.

Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
25-03-2014, 06:18 PM
Ha just noticed we share a fair few tunes in our repetoire Lee. Glad I'm not the only one singing Dance the Night Away - always waiting for someone to chin me about it being a break up song :)

Had the pleasure of attending Airth for a wedding last year. Best white russians I've ever had. :beer1:

DeckstarDeluxe
25-03-2014, 07:49 PM
Some songs were delivered better than others so I'd suggest either changing them or working on them but to be fair £100 extra for a singing performance is very good value for money IMO.

leelive
25-03-2014, 09:05 PM
Some songs were delivered better than others so I'd suggest either changing them or working on them but to be fair £100 extra for a singing performance is very good value for money IMO.

Thanks.

leelive
07-04-2014, 07:15 PM
Here are edited highlights from Saturday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C6VvhUBgJs

Individual clips being uploaded here: (will be all done by Thursday)
https://vimeo.com/channels/45minperformance

I think I took on board some of the points raised from the last video.

Comments welcome.

Lee

Crown Jules
09-04-2014, 05:45 AM
and time and again DJs complain of bands who ALSO offer to DJ in between their sets! If you're a great singer then maybe it adds to your USP, otherwise, in my opinion, it can only bring on potential negative issues.

What do you think of bands that offer to DJ? DJs that offer to take photographs? DO you not think it might muddle matters for the client?

leelive
09-04-2014, 06:48 AM
and time and again DJs complain of bands who ALSO offer to DJ in between their sets! If you're a great singer then maybe it adds to your USP, otherwise, in my opinion, it can only bring on potential negative issues.

What do you think of bands that offer to DJ? DJs that offer to take photographs? DO you not think it might muddle matters for the client?

That is a fair point.

I am booked mainly into venues where for some reason there is a restriction that means the couple cannot have a band. So it works quite well for them to have someone singing instead....

Lee

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-04-2014, 10:52 AM
and time and again DJs complain of bands who ALSO offer to DJ in between their sets! If you're a great singer then maybe it adds to your USP, otherwise, in my opinion, it can only bring on potential negative issues.



I think that a wedding singer that 'DJs' in between sets is OK, but am not sure about a DJ who sings a bit....

Excalibur
09-04-2014, 12:07 PM
I think that a wedding singer that 'DJs' in between sets is OK, but am not sure about a DJ who sings a bit....

I don't really have a problem with it either way, as long as..........................


Neither part is half hearted or sub standard. If the singer's going to DJ, putting Now 87 on shuffle/repeat just doesn't cut it. Neither does belting out a handful of standards in a voice akin to a Bull Moose with its genitalia entangled in a barbed wire fence. ( Lee, I've never actually watched/listened to your vids, so can't comment on your performances, or Jim's. Logic says if you're getting work that way, you must be doing something right. )

Now, the point which will become a new thread shortly- How audiences react favourably to live acts, rather than us mere mortals.

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-04-2014, 01:43 PM
I don't really have a problem with it either way, as long as..........................


Neither part is half hearted or sub standard.

Hence my phrase 'DJ who sings a bit...'

You really should start to read between the lines a bit more Peter. ;)

Crown Jules
11-04-2014, 07:14 AM
That is a fair point.

I am booked mainly into venues where for some reason there is a restriction that means the couple cannot have a band. So it works quite well for them to have someone singing instead....

Lee

Seems like you will make a nice little niche for yourself. Nice move.

Jim - Scotland's Party DJ
12-04-2014, 01:12 PM
and time and again DJs complain of bands who ALSO offer to DJ in between their sets! If you're a great singer then maybe it adds to your USP, otherwise, in my opinion, it can only bring on potential negative issues.

What do you think of bands that offer to DJ? DJs that offer to take photographs? DO you not think it might muddle matters for the client?

I've no problem with bands who offer a DJ service that actually DJ as opposed to the ones where the bass player sticks an iPod play list on and sits with his face tripping him because everyone else in the band gets to finish earlier.

If a DJ has the right equipment and skills to take photographs too (I assume you mean acting as a photographer, not just taking snaps of the dancefloor?) and that's what the client wants then why not?

Why should we pigeon hole ourselves to be "just DJs"? We all know none of us are exactly the same behind the decks but why not take that further? I've spent 2/3rds of my life learning and playing guitar, I can sing and have done so across the country and abroad, why not use that to my advantage as a USP or an add on?