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[Shakermaker Promotions]

Hi all,

Apologies if this is put in the wrong place but as the title suggests, I am not sure how to title it or where it should go.
There is a thread going on at the moment with reference to Facebook advertising but I'm not sure if this is relevant to that although it does concern Facebook.

I'll explain....

On Friday night I did a wedding for a very nice couple (review in Good Gig / Bad Gig). The following day I uploaded a couple of photos from their first dance to my business page on Facebook, just like I do with most of the weddings I do. I like to keep a record of everything including a 'First Dances' document and photos from various bookings. I get lots of 'likes' and comments and have had lots of enquiries and confirmed bookings as the page gets quite a few views. I don't 'promote' the page as such and I don't waste money on advertising on Facebook (it is a waste in my opinion and experience).

Anyway, I'll admit that the photos aren't brilliant by any means and are generally taken with my iPhone but as I said, they are a record for me.
I received a number of 'likes' for the photos I uploaded the next day, including 'likes' from the Bride and then shortly after I received a really nice 5 star review from her too.
A little bit later on I had a notification that someone had left a comment on one of the photos so I clicked on it to see what had been said.

The comment was from a guy who I'd never heard of. I checked out his profile after deleting the comment and then banned him from the page. I also sent him a message asking him what he was playing at. I'm not sure if the guy is a member of this forum? If he is, I'd like to tell him again that he was out of order posting a comment like he did.

I've deleted it now but it went along the lines of "Mr & Mrs Blobby on the dance floor because you forgot to switch off your main lighting!"
I thought the comment was outrageous to be honest and I was quite angry that someone could just post something like that. I don't think he was being disrespectful towards the Bride & Groom with the Mr & Mrs Blobby comment. I think it was more a case of the actual photo being full of colour and those LED spots.

I didn't need to explain via message but I did and I said that 9 times out of 10 I will ask the Bride & Groom what they'd prefer lighting wise for their first dance. Most of them will say "Do what you think looks best" so I will just use plain white, especially when they also have uplighting. This particular couple wanted "Lots of colour!" (their words). The Uplighting was red. I also ask the photographer's whenever possible and it used to be a case of keeping the colours to a minimum but these days it seems as if they aren't bothered too much.

I don't expect everyone to like the photos or everything I do but I do think it is out of order to post a comment like the one this guy did. Am I being over sensitive or do you think I am right to be a bit peeved off? I would never ever think of doing it to someone else. I see lots of photos from other suppliers that I don't think are much cop but I don't post comments on them. It wouldn't have been so bad if the guy had messaged me with some advice and then I would've replied with the same explanation as I did. I'd probably have thought "mind your own business" deep down.

Has anyone else had something like this happen in the past?

[Excalibur]

I've deleted it now but it went along the lines of "Mr & Mrs Blobby on the dance floor because you forgot to switch off your main lighting!"
I thought the comment was outrageous to be honest and I was quite angry that someone could just post something like that.

Sorry Gary, but looking from this from the outside, while I think his comment is less than tactful, and also based on insufficient information, I wouldn't call it outrageous. Predictable and understandable yes, but not outrageous. I reckon I'd go for hurtful, also, perhaps not on purpose. I'm on the outside Gary, but I think if I were you, I could easily be upset. Chin up.

[Shaun]

Sounds like your average keyboard warrior. I'd have just did what you did. Delete the comment and move on.



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DJ lighting during first dance could be a whole new topic altogether though. I'm not a fan of coloured dots on the bride during photos, same with laser lighting of any sorts. On a related matter, up until very recently I used to use a nice pink hue from my powerbar to provide a wash on the floor. At the event I thought it looked nice, then I saw some pictures on Facebook from the guests and realised the reality is far different to my perspective. These days, unless specifically indicated otherwise by the B&G I'll use the house lights (dimmed if possible) during the First Dance. On several occasions Photographers have commented favourably that I've not used any "squigly lines lights" (Lasers I presume?) during the first Dance.

The Brides look lovely in their wedding dress, I now think it's best not to taint it with artificial disco lighting during the opening dances.

[Sapphire Disco]

One of the reasons I purchased this http://www.thomann.de/gb/cameo_multi_par_coblighting_bundle.htm gives a very nice white light or any other static colour you may want , sometimes I bolt it straight onto my overhead and sometimes just with the stand with a couple of lights bolted on, it's very useful & versatile.

[Excalibur]

DJ lighting during first dance could be a whole new topic altogether though.

Hmmmmmm. :whistle:


The Brides look lovely in their wedding dress, I now think it's best not to taint it with artificial disco lighting during the opening dances.

You say taint, I say enhance. See you in the new thread?

[Benny Smyth]

I don't expect everyone to like the photos or everything I do but I do think it is out of order to post a comment like the one this guy did. Am I being over sensitive or do you think I am right to be a bit peeved off? I would never ever think of doing it to someone else. I see lots of photos from other suppliers that I don't think are much cop but I don't post comments on them. It wouldn't have been so bad if the guy had messaged me with some advice and then I would've replied with the same explanation as I did. I'd probably have thought "mind your own business" deep down.

Just extend the middle finger of righteousness. Your clients and their guests were happy, so that's all that matters. Leave the troll who has nothing better to do that trowl Facebook to make snide comments to their own devices while you go out and spend the money you earned from (what seems to be) a very successful gig. :beer1:

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Thanks guys.

Peter - Outrageous was probably the wrong choice of word, I agree.
Shaun - I'm in the same camp as you mate. I don't really like lots of different colours for the first dance especially. As you say, the Brides look generally look lovely in their dresses and it's a big deal to them. Covering it in colours for their first dance photos isn't something I am a fan of and as I said, where possible I usually use just the Uplighting or white light from the LED Starball effects.
I also have a couple of H2o water effect lights that look really nice when positioned down on to the dance floor. Mine aren't the DMX versions but I can set them so that they are white too. It does look nice.

This guy obviously thinks he is something special and probably didn't think before he wrote. It might not have meant anything to him but yes, it did pee me off!

[funkymook]

It’s professional etiquette not to post those sorts of comment on someone’s business page - which says all you need to know about him.

[Excalibur]

It’s professional etiquette not to post those sorts of comment on someone’s business page - which says all you need to know about him.

Etiquette? You'll have to refresh my memory on that, I haven't seen that for many a year. :(

[Benny Smyth]

Etiquette? You'll have to refresh my memory on that, I haven't seen that for many a year. :(

I think it's like a croquette, but with cheese.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Luckily, I think I got to delete it before anyone else saw it and started commenting. Most of the 'likes' on my business page have come via friends and venues I have been to. There are only a few other suppliers that have 'liked' my business page as far as I know. What I didn't want was a conversation starting which could have ended up in an argument so I thought it best to delete the comment and ban the poster so it prevented him from posting more comments.
As yet I still haven't received a reply to my message to him but I didn't send a message to get a reply, I did it to make the point that what he did was out of order so hopefully it's made him think and he won't do it again to someone else and come across as the troll / know it all that he appeared to be.

[musicology]

Or take as a bit of constructive criticism in that led dots can look a bit wrong shining on B&G in photos. Sounds like an amusing comment to me but then again I wasn't the target.

[funkymook]

I suppose the other way of handling it would’ve been to reply with something like ‘this is exactly what the client wanted, lots of coloured lights for their first dance, and we all know what the client wants the client gets. Please look through my other photos for more First Dance lighting options’

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Musicology - Calling the Bride & Groom "Mr & Mrs Blobby" is NOT constructive criticism is it. Had the guy just mentioned the coloured dots then I probably would have just replied back but I thought the comment was rude and uncalled for. As I've said twice already, it was what the customer requested.

[musicology]

Musicology - Calling the Bride & Groom "Mr & Mrs Blobby" is NOT constructive criticism is it.

No but it was quite funny. Sorry

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I have to disagree. Would you find it funny if the same had been posted on your business page and there was a chance that the Bride & Groom could have seen it themselves?

[ppentertainments]

It’s professional etiquette not to post those sorts of comment on someone’s business page - which says all you need to know about him.
I agree, whereas a personal profile I think anything goes, which does upset one or 2 who use their personal profile for business. I have even had local DJs asking me to watch what I put on MY OWN personal profile incase any of their brides see it lol

[Shakermaker Promotions]

That's why I NEVER mix the two.
I don't post work related stuff or photos on my personal profile and I always post as Shakermaker Promotions on my business page.

[funktions]

That's why I NEVER mix the two.
I don't post work related stuff or photos on my personal profile and I always post as Shakermaker Promotions on my business page.

same here.. and I agree was totally out of order, someone obviously out just to create trouble..

[Nakatomi]

I have to disagree. Would you find it funny if the same had been posted on your business page and there was a chance that the Bride & Groom could have seen it themselves?

:agree:

It's not big, or clever, or funny. Not even remotely funny. If somebody has to say something along the lines of criticism, then send it as a message not on a public timeline.

Somebody I used to go to college with became my 'friend' on Facebook a while ago & he thought it'd be hilarious to tag me in videos of larking around in lectures 25 years ago, knowing full well my current situation. I hate Facebook

[Benny Smyth]

:agree:

It's not big, or clever, or funny. Not even remotely funny. If somebody has to say something along the lines of criticism, then send it as a message not on a public timeline.

Somebody I used to go to college with became my 'friend' on Facebook a while ago & he thought it'd be hilarious to tag me in videos of larking around in lectures 25 years ago, knowing full well my current situation. I hate Facebook

The trick is not to have it. ;)

I got rid of my personal account when I realised that I'm just reading weather updates from people that I used to go to school with but don't talk to anymore.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I'm seriously thinking of doing the same with my personal profile. I know you can disable notifications and adjust the settings so you can choose what you see but I am also a member of a number of groups on there too. I also do regular podcasts and have a band page so it's not that easy to just delete the whole thing.
What I don't like about it is that sometimes something may appear that you really don't want to see (cruelty to animals for example) and although the person that posted the photo or video did it with good intentions, I just can't get my head around it and sometimes it can be upsetting.

Anyway, back to this particular scenario and Mr Troll / Gobby or whatever you want to call him has not even had the decency to reply to my message so it really does say it all.