Mixer choice for joint event.

[fullcontact68]

I'm doing a gig this weekend where I'm working with a comedy impressionist. (Stu Arnold)

He has asked me if he could link into my PA.

I've never done this before, so firstly I need to know if my kit is suitable for him, and secondly which mixer would be the best option.


The kit I'll be using will be my DXR15's and either my MC6000 or Alto ZMX122FX.

He would be linking in his AKG radio headset.

Would my setup be suitable for his vocals, and if so which mixer would suit the situation the best?


TIA.

[DJ Jules]

I'm doing a gig this weekend where I'm working with a comedy impressionist. (Stu Arnold)

I've never done this before, so firstly I need to know if my kit is suitable for him

As long as it's got a mute button :zip:


He would be linking in his AKG radio headset.

If he bought AKG then he's not that fussed about how he sounds :D (I'm an AKG user myself by the way, but it's not Shure or Sennheiser). I'd think pretty much any mixer with a Mic input and a basic EQ will do the job - either of the options you listed will be fine.

Julian

[Excalibur]

I'm no fan of the mic channels on the 6000, but if he's not a vocalist, it should be fine. The alto has the effects usually required by singers. Either will be fine, as Julian says.
Should you at any time be asked to plug in an instrument, the Alto is the one to use.

[Shaun]

Should you at any time be asked to plug in an instrument, the phrase "Sorry, no can do" is the one to use.

:whistle:

[Benny Smyth]

And yet I never hear tales of a DJ asking a band (or any other act) "Mind if I plug into your system, folks?" :rolleyes:

[fullcontact68]

I'm just hoping that he does not want to plug in his 12g shotgun. :Censored:

We're sharing lights, so at least I've something of his I can use :)


Only problem I have is that I won't be centre stage. He has a huge screen for back projection which takes up the entire stage. Looks like I'll have to set up my booth on the floor.

I'm sure it will be an interesting night though.

[Excalibur]

Should you at any time be asked to plug in an instrument, the phrase "Sorry, no can do" is the one to use.

:whistle:
Thank you for that suggestion Shaun, I'm sure Allan will bear it in mind for the future.

As will I if you ever deign to grace us with your presence at BPM again. :Naughty:

Shaun does actually raise a valid point, one which we've discussed extensively before. If you have any doubt about your skills and equipment suitability, then it's safest to decline, as Shaun suggests. A simple mic input is a doddle, keyboards or guitar are a tad more involved.



And yet I never hear tales of a DJ asking a band (or any other act) "Mind if I plug into your system, folks?" :rolleyes:

Now now, you little imp. It happens. Not often, but it happens. Not always a marriage made in heaven though.

[yourdj]

And yet I never hear tales of a DJ asking a band (or any other act) "Mind if I plug into your system, folks?" :rolleyes:

I really do think that professionals should have their own PA too, especially if they are charging good money.
I would not want to plug into anyone else system thats for sure if i was a singer, band, DJ or what ever. :)

I used a singing waiters PA at this wedding as it was Senniser and RCF (so thought oh that will make things easier) and it was terrible, all the levels were out and it was feeding back. Really put me off what I was doing!! Never again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5O90DEc0oY

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I really do think that professionals should have their own PA too, especially if they are charging good money.


I do too, but comedians hardly ever seem to have their own P.A.

[funkymook]

I do too, but comedians hardly ever seem to have their own P.A.

They’re having a laugh!!

[TONYTIGER]

To be quite honest,how many of you have a decent mixer that will do pa duties,most controllers are really lacking on the mic section Denon being the worst but they are really all bad ,but does it matter as most modern djs dont talk very much according to the forum.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

most controllers are really lacking on the mic section Denon being the worst

My MC6000 has low, mid and high for 2 mics as well as basic effects. Not sure how much more you'd need?

[Excalibur]

I do too, but comedians hardly ever seem to have their own P.A.

I've seen a lot of comedians with a PA, but not in the way I think you meant! :D:D

[TONYTIGER]

My MC6000 has low, mid and high for 2 mics as well as basic effects. Not sure how much more you'd need?

But the quality ?

[Corabar Steve]

most controllers are really lacking on the mic section Denon being the worst

& you've had a go on all available models to be able to make that categoric statement?

[TONYTIGER]

& you've had a go on all available models to be able to make that categoric statement?

Pretty well yes,i have been in the game before you were born,compare with a Rane or such like theres no comparison but you get what you pay for.

[funkymook]

Pretty well yes,i have been in the game before you were born,compare with a Rane or such like theres no comparison but you get what you pay for.

That’s very true of most things of course, but is hardly helpful unless you’re suggesting someone spends thousands upgrading for the sake of one comedian.

With your vast experience surely you can offer better advice using the equipment we know the OP already has?

[Nakatomi]

Sometimes it's educational to plug into somebody else's pa. I know now not to bother buying any sort of bandpass sub.

As for which mixer, just use the one with a pitch changer you can engage when they :Censored: you off.

[ukpartydj]

But the quality ?

I never noticed any issues regarding the MC6000's Mic quality.
I don't think the mk1 MC6000 has the same standard of sound card you'd find with Traktor / Pioneer products but nothing that bothered me too much in 2 years of owning an MC6000.

Don't pretty much all controllers / mixers have - Phono, 1/4 Jack & XLR inputs with mic EQ / a way of controlling the mic EQ via software?

[Excalibur]

Sometimes it's educational to plug into somebody else's pa. I know now not to bother buying any sort of bandpass sub.

Amen, Brother. A long while ago, I found out I don't like RCF subs for that reason.


I never noticed any issues regarding the MC6000's Mic quality.

Denon did, which is why they " fixed it " on the Mk2. I've not used a Mk2, but John's Mk1 was a :Censored: to get a good mic on.
It's not a patch on the mic channels on an X-500. I know a few folk who have gone back to this for various reasons.

[TONYTIGER]

Amen, Brother. A long while ago, I found out I don't like RCF subs for that reason.


Denon did, which is why they " fixed it " on the Mk2. I've not used a Mk2, but John's Mk1 was a :Censored: to get a good mic on.
It's not a patch on the mic channels on an X-500. I know a few folk who have gone back to this for various reasons.

I agree,the Mk2 is better and if i had Johns mixer i would say NO.

[yourdj]

I do too, but comedians hardly ever seem to have their own P.A.

Suppose they are so used to working their way through the comedy clubs or corporate clients adding PA for them?
Its like when good club DJ's go mobile or even in the club, they have no idea about sound systems and sound quality. :)
The mixer is always redlined as its sorted by very expensive management hardware, or not and it sounds horrible.
I had to leave a club the other day as it was seriously damaging my hearing. Usually bring some earplugs. :mad:


They’re having a laugh!!

Nice: ;)

[Corabar Steve]

i have been in the game before you were born

& sometimes it sounds like it. TBH the technology available pre 1967 bears no relevance to this topic anyway, but thanks for the condescending comment.

I think it's unfair to make a blanket statement like you did. It's true that mixers do vary in quality greatly (& in most instances that does equate to the price), but in the majority of cases, a mobile DJ won't need the quality of Rane or Allen & Heath. I've seen some high end mixers with less of an EQ on them than some budget makes. If you're running a reasonable brand / model mixer then you should be able to get a half way decent sound on a mic for somebody talking. It's not like most of us are ever going to get the likes of Frank Sinatra, Pavarotti, or Mariah Carey asking to plug into our system to do a turn.

[funkymook]

It's not like most of us are ever going to get the likes of Frank Sinatra, Pavarotti, or Mariah Carey asking to plug into our system to do a turn.

Well you say that, you might get all three on the same night...


I'm doing a gig this weekend where I'm working with a comedy impressionist. (Stu Arnold)




(and check your PM’s!)

[TONYTIGER]

& you've had a go on all available models to be able to make that categoric statement?

You asked the above question,i gave a honest answer.

[fullcontact68]

Went with Stu to the venue last night. (He happened to be passing on the M1, and gave me a buzz)

I forgot to mention to him that they have a couple of 12" passive mackies mounted to the walls.

He is going to try those, see how they hold up. If they are not up to it, it will be my DXR's getting the use.


I'll be using some of his lights, so less for me to worry about there :)

I'm actually looking forward to this. Hopefully it will be a good experience .

(I've no PM's, who is that addressed to?)

[funkymook]

(I've no PM's, who is that addressed to?)

Sorry should have made it clearer - that was for Steve.