Coalville 2016, the unexpurgated truth!!

[Excalibur]

First of all, a huge vote of thanks to James H and AED for running the event. In so many ways, this was the best ever. If you missed it, then shame on you, it was featured the most relevant kit to the majority of mobile DJs I've ever seen.

OK, so our little wagon train left the Toby, and arrived at the Charnwood around 9.30, where we were greeted by James H looking like he'd gone twelve rounds with Count Dracula, and lost on points. Seems he'd suffered an infection on his neck, which had turned very nasty, and he had been released from the hospital, with instructions not to work for at least a week.
Stalwart that he is, he'd decided that " The show must go on ", and carried on regardless. The lad's a trooper. :bowdown:

The other two reprobates turned up minutes after me, and we set about rigging kit. It's always lovely to see the spirit of kindness and cooperation this day entails, and as more folks arrived, the systems started to fill the room. Proceedings were enlivened by one of the little Mackie cabs deciding to spontaneously self destruct in a loud and unpleasant fashion, before treating us to the smell of fried components.

James had allocated spaces according to style of system, so that we got the best possible grouping of vaguely similar systems together. With very little fuss, technical glitches, or argument, we were ready to Rock and Roll. Systems ranged from one lonely and forlorn Maui 5, through Evox, Bose and Curv, through Dicky's " tasteful and understated " rig, Splendid looking OHM, Alto Black, Flare and Logik systems, right up to 7.5Kw of RCF TT+ with subs the size of a small hatchback!!! :eek:

What did they sound like, I hear you cry. Well, the following is basically my views, I hope others chip in with theirs, for as we know, sound is a very personal thing.

The little Maui 5 again aquitted itself very very well, and impressed me no end. I think it's a winner. However, when put up against the Evox 8 and 12, and Bose L2/L1 ( I think. Dave will correct me if I'm wrong. ) it was understandably outclassed. The Evox twelve is just fantastic, and impressed everyone. Now I've got to upset Shaun, and say that I thought his Curv didn't quite cut it. It runs into clip rather early, and seems to promise more than it delivers.

A pair of FBT Jolly 12s made me eat my words, as they were very very impressive, and astonishing value. The surprise of the day though was a pair of Yamaha DXR8s. They were absolutely amazing, and sounded much bigger, really impressive. Even more impressive though was when Justin asked as I was wheeling out my Alto sub if we could try it with the Yamahas. It was lashed in quickly, fired up, and a number of jaws hit the floor simultaneously. It sounded superb. It wasn't even wired in properly, but it still sounded great.

The social part of the evening followed, and as always it's great to meet forum members we don't see often enough. Roll on next year. :)

[Nakatomi]

Yup, yesterday was definitely an ear opener. Stars of the show for me - I have absolutely no interest in mahoosive systems - were the B52 & Yamaha DXR8. Especially with Peter's little Alto sub (cheers for that fella!).

The new Flare system.. oh dear. Six grand on 4 boxes of compact PA and the poles still needed to have tape wrapped round them for a snug fit in the sub. Poor form IMHO. As for how it sounded.. Just buy 2 pairs of Evox 8 instead & it'll not only sound better - it'll look nicer too.

Of your gear Peter, the LD sounded the better of your boxes (well they would, being wood).

Other LD kit at the show.. the Maui 5 definitely showed itself to be the best value for money compact PA there. Perfect for background duties or (very) small parties.

The LD Curv.. sounded okay to me but seemed very quiet.

FBT J12A.. I thought it sounded like it was clipping in places. Very fuzzy round the edges.

B52.. brilliant, just brilliant! Sadly quite tricky to get hold of these days, and no hope of anybody importing them again. The more I ponder a 2.1 system (except all active, not just amplifers in the bin) the more it seems like it'll suit me down to the ground.

Compacts.. really didn't like the Bose at all. It was better than I expected but you won't find me hankering after one. RCF Evox 8 & 12.. very nice, but not for me.

The big boxes.. well most of them just sounded VERY LOUD to me.

Mackie? Well no. Just no.

And Dicky - your frustration was palpable. Something was definitely amiss somewhere. Fed with the NS track you gave it though.. Very very good I thought. For the money you paid for it, no question. As for your curious light.. now there's a puzzle isn't it? It really should be possible to work out DMX channel assignments pretty quickly.. not in this case.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Excellent show once again.

Not really in a market for a new PA but am very tempted by the Evox 8.

It was a shame most systems were pushed beyond their optimum performance however the larger RCF system at the back was very good (just far too large for my needs).

[funkymook]

Other LD kit at the show.. the Maui 5 definitely showed itself to be the best value for money compact PA there. Perfect for background duties or (very) small parties.

After being impressed with just one at a demo I bought a pair for small venues, house parties, sensitive sound limiters etc.

Using them for the first time this weekend for a birthday in a small gastro-pub, 60 guests, vintage music to begin with then Motown, 70’s disco and 80’s etc. (a fairly typical scenario for me). Looking forward to a very light load-in.

I shall report back with a proper review.

[Imagine]

Damn - seeing the review about the DXR8's I wish I could have made it up there now :(

Question...were they REALLY that good?

As most of you know, I normally roll out with a pair of DXR15's which I can't fault apart from the size/weight of them.

I'm looking for something just a little bit smaller and was looking at the DXR10's or DXR12's.

How does the sound/quality compare to the 15's (the plan is to put them alongside my DSR18 to handle the bass side of things - I'm not expecting an 8" cone to produce too much thump). That said, how good were they without the sub on them? Would they, in your opinion but suited for things like weddings and parties of up to 100-150 bodies?

Obviously I need to arrange to go visit my "local" dealer to listen in person. However, that's a 160 mile round trip so want to know how others rate them before I get in the van with my wallet in tow ;)

[ThomasPM]

What did you think of the Alto Blacks guys?

I have these and think they are great however i never get chance to compare them to anything else.

I have the 15" Tops and 18" subs and lug them around everywhere (the subs weigh a ton).

[Nakatomi]

Damn - seeing the review about the DXR8's I wish I could have made it up there now :(

Question...were they REALLY that good?

As most of you know, I normally roll out with a pair of DXR15's which I can't fault apart from the size/weight of them.

I'm looking for something just a little bit smaller and was looking at the DXR10's or DXR12's.

How does the sound/quality compare to the 15's (the plan is to put them alongside my DSR18 to handle the bass side of things - I'm not expecting an 8" cone to produce too much thump). That said, how good were they without the sub on them? Would they, in your opinion but suited for things like weddings and parties of up to 100-150 bodies?

Obviously I need to arrange to go visit my "local" dealer to listen in person. However, that's a 160 mile round trip so want to know how others rate them before I get in the van with my wallet in tow ;)

Put it this way Wayne, when those little Yamahas started playing just about everybody stopped what they were doing & came for a butchers. No wonder they'd been saved til so late in the day! You'd might need to use them with a sub for disco duties I think. Or not, if you're doing a kids party or a small family shindig. We tested them out with Peter's Alto (yeah the one he said will never blow anybody away) 15" sub & they sounded mighty sweet even accounting for a mismatch in xover frequencies (the tops were set to high pass & the sub was fed from an output on one of the tops - it was set up in a hurry!).

The only other system that even came close in terms of detail & clarity by my recollection was the B52 rig.

People have commented that the DXR8s sound too much like hi-fi speakers, like that's a bad thing. What - you mean clear, controlled & musicality to die for? :O

So if the DXR8 sounds THAT good, what on Earth does the DXR12 or 15 sound like?!

[Nakatomi]

What did you think of the Alto Blacks guys?

I have these and think they are great however i never get chance to compare them to anything else.

I have the 15" Tops and 18" subs and lug them around everywhere (the subs weigh a ton).

I thought they were okay, but nowt to write home about - and I'd been looking forward to hearing them too. 15" tops with 15" bins were previously described as lacklustre & I couldn't find myself disagreeing. Good enough I suppose, but worth lugging all that weight around? Hmmmm. You'd think that the crossover would sort out any wrangles in the frequency response but I don't think that's the case in real life.

[ThomasPM]

Thank you Juski "but worth lugging all that weight around" is the exact question i am asking myself!

[Excalibur]

Question...were they REALLY that good?

Obviously I need to arrange to go visit my "local" dealer to listen in person.
The word " Amazing " springs to mind, simply because they amazed everyone.

Juski and the Yamaha owner lashed them up in a hurry, and as we said, that left a big hole in 80-120 Hz, due to crossover mismatches. When the rig was fired up, you could see everyone left in the room thinking " Hmmmm. Those tops with a lightweight sub ( The matching one for example (http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Yamaha-DXS12-12-Active-Subwoofer/JDF?origin=product-ads&campaign=PLA+Shop+-+GENERIC&adgroup=GENERIC&medium=vertical_search&network=google&merchant_id=1279443&product_id=25107d1&product_country=GB&product_partition_id=120656416159&gclid=CjwKEAiA__C1BRDqyJOQ8_Tq230SJABWBSxnsK254R2a s4WrJ48joERC4RFw1GeEJ1rWMeDx3C9VeBoCYXnw_wcB) ) and I could have an easily prtable, nice sounding, very pretty PA. "


What did you think of the Alto Blacks guys?


And the word to describe them is " Disappointing ". Fit for purpose, but for me, they didn't live up to the " hype ".


I thought they were okay, but nowt to write home about - and I'd been looking forward to hearing them too.
Agreed.

[Nakatomi]

Maybe if we'd heard the Black series in a different configuration it'd have been a different story. The bass was, it seemed to me, fairly muddy. The quality of bass out of the B52 was much better I thought. Nothing like as loud, but there was a lot of loud there on Sunday.

As Peter has said before he's heard 15" tops with 15" bins & wasn't enamoured with them. 12" tops with 15" or 18" bins, let us hear that. Or 15" tops with 18" bins.. put me in the queue waiting to audition them. In theory, the sub's crossover should deal with only giving the tops what it's not playing with - but that depends on where the mid/top cab's bass response starts and how steep the rolloff of the sub's crossover is. Too much overlap & there's gonna be mud.

That said, with Alto's iDevice app you can allegedly tweak the crossover frequency of the Black subs - maybe that's all it'd take - or simply adding an external active crossover to better tune them.

Anyway, my own subwoofer shopping is on hold again after building a space model of a sub I fancied & trying to fit it in my car with all my other stuff. D'oh. We're gonna need a bigger vehicle, Dave. Besides, do I really wanna be lugging an extra 40 kilos around just for a bit of boom boom boom every night?

What I'd expected to see on Sunday was a sound level meter somewhere so we could all get an idea how loud 'loud' was - and to judge the manufacturer on how much their specs lie. Maybe something to suggest for next time eh?

[Imagine]

The word " Amazing " springs to mind, simply because they amazed everyone.

Juski and the Yamaha owner lashed them up in a hurry, and as we said, that left a big hole in 80-120 Hz, due to crossover mismatches. When the rig was fired up, you could see everyone left in the room thinking " Hmmmm. Those tops with a lightweight sub ( The matching one for example (http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Yamaha-DXS12-12-Active-Subwoofer/JDF?origin=product-ads&campaign=PLA+Shop+-+GENERIC&adgroup=GENERIC&medium=vertical_search&network=google&merchant_id=1279443&product_id=25107d1&product_country=GB&product_partition_id=120656416159&gclid=CjwKEAiA__C1BRDqyJOQ8_Tq230SJABWBSxnsK254R2a s4WrJ48joERC4RFw1GeEJ1rWMeDx3C9VeBoCYXnw_wcB) ) and I could have an easily prtable, nice sounding, very pretty PA. " .


Hmmmm.....a 12" sub - that makes my 18" look like a behemouth!
I'm seriously tempted to go and listen to the combo now - £2k possibly about to leave my wallet :(

[Nakatomi]

The only snag with Yamaha's 12 & 15 inch subs is they're bandpass designs. They might still sound fine though.

[djdj]

Put it this way Wayne, when those little Yamahas started playing just about everybody stopped what they were doing & came for a butchers. No wonder they'd been saved til so late in the day! You'd might need to use them with a sub for disco duties I think. Or not, if you're doing a kids party or a small family shindig. We tested them out with Peter's Alto (yeah the one he said will never blow anybody away) 15" sub & they sounded mighty sweet even accounting for a mismatch in xover frequencies (the tops were set to high pass & the sub was fed from an output on one of the tops - it was set up in a hurry!).

The only other system that even came close in terms of detail & clarity by my recollection was the B52 rig.

People have commented that the DXR8s sound too much like hi-fi speakers, like that's a bad thing. What - you mean clear, controlled & musicality to die for? :O

So if the DXR8 sounds THAT good, what on Earth does the DXR12 or 15 sound like?!

I Wish I had gone now!
My DSR 12"s are fantastic so I would love to see if Yamaha could improve on them!
The only bad point is the Handle is on top of the unit?
I also have the 15" Yamaha Sub but I find that most places I only need the 12"s. ;)

[CRAZY K]

The only snag with Yamaha's 12 & 15 inch subs is they're bandpass designs. They might still sound fine though.

Errr wots a bandpass design?

I need to get up to speed as thinking of buying a powered sub- see separate new post

thanks

[Daryll]

W = frequency

17721

Hope that helps a bit

[CRAZY K]

W = frequency

17721

Hope that helps a bit

Hi Daryll, unfortunately not clear to me.

What is it--a filtering of all frequencies other than bass ?

thanks

ALAN

[Nakatomi]

Bandpass subs are sometimes referred to in sound engineering circles as 'one note bins'. Meaning they reproduce one bass note really loud & others.. not so much. Great for kick drums, sometimes not so great for anything else. Your preferences may vary.

Look at this plot for the RCF 705AS-II...

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The peak is at approx 70Hz there, but look at 40Hz & the output has dropped almost 10dB. Go up to 100Hz & the output drops the same amount.

But - you can look at graphs til you go wonky eyed. The only way to decide is to listen & decide for yourself.

What a 'band pass' actually means is pass frequencies between frequency X and frequency Y - i.e. passes a band of frequencies.

Low pass means pass only low frequencies up to a certain point.
High pass means pass only frequencies above a certain point.

[Excalibur]

My learned friends above have given the technical answers, which are entirely correct, but may not help you in your choice.

Band pass cabs produce a different type of sound to bass reflex cabs. I'm not fond of it. I'd recommend hearing thje two side by side.

My numpty guide is that if you can see a speaker behind the grille, it's bass reflex, if you can only see slots, and no speaker cone, it's a band pass. That's only scratching the surface, but might help. In my humble opinion, bass reflex are more musical.

[Nakatomi]

My numpty guide is that if you can see a speaker behind the grille, it's bass reflex, if you can only see slots, and no speaker cone, it's a band pass. That's only scratching the surface, but might help. In my humble opinion, bass reflex are more musical.
:agree: :)

[DJ Jules]

My learned friends above have given the technical answers, which are entirely correct, but may not help you in your choice.

Band pass cabs produce a different type of sound to bass reflex cabs. I'm not fond of it. I'd recommend hearing thje two side by side.

My numpty guide is that if you can see a speaker behind the grille, it's bass reflex, if you can only see slots, and no speaker cone, it's a band pass. That's only scratching the surface, but might help. In my humble opinion, bass reflex are more musical.

:agree: I'm using the 705AS's and you have to be very careful what you pair them with. They're great at filling in the bottom end below my ART422A's, but if you pair them with anything that is less capable above 100hz then you end up with some odd gaps and you have to be very careful how you set the gains on the subs and tops (otherwise you can end up with bass notes that sound very loud and very out of place!)

They'll vibrate glasses off the bar at 20 paces though for the notes between 20hz and 100hz :D

Julian

[Excalibur]

:agree: I'm using the 705AS's and you have to be very careful what you pair them with.

I'm on record as not liking RCF subs, but when we stuck some under Shaun's EV tops at Coalville every year, the result was very impressive.

[Nakatomi]

(otherwise you can end up with bass notes that sound very loud and very out of place!)

They'll vibrate glasses off the bar at 20 paces though for the notes between 20hz and 100hz :D

Julian

Funny you should say that.... ;) I'm still giving the RCF subs the benefit of the doubt cos I reckon there's more than a chance the system was only set up for kick & bass guitar before. Putting real music into it threw the sound guy. I say 'real' because the band was... er... hmm. Heh

[Imagine]

I'm in LOVE!!!!!! :)

Just been and collected a brace of DXR8's. My first thought before they even turned them on in the shop was "these are silly little things.....they're not going to be what I've been lead to believe"

WRONG!

My jaw hit the floor - they're astounding!

I'll be getting a pair of DXS12's on Monday to go with them (I'm swapping my DSR118 for them) and can't wait to hear them all together.....

It's insane! How can something so tiny make so much noise? Even without a bin on them they're quite punchy.
Methinks the DXR15's might be going into backup for most stuff now:daft:

[Excalibur]

I'm in LOVE!!!!!! :)

Just been and collected a brace of DXR8's. My first thought before they even turned them on in the shop was "these are silly little things.....they're not going to be what I've been lead to believe"

WRONG!

My jaw hit the floor - they're astounding!

I'll be getting a pair of DXS12's on Monday to go with them (I'm swapping my DSR118 for them) and can't wait to hear them all together.....

It's insane! How can something so tiny make so much noise? Even without a bin on them they're quite punchy.
Methinks the DXR15's might be going into backup for most stuff now:daft:

What did we tell you? :whistle: They made a lot of folks jaws drop, I can tell you. ;)

As far as I can see, the only possible flaw in your cunning plan is if you wished to use fifteen inch tops over twelve inch subs. Would it have offered more options to keep the eighteen inch sub, and get one twelve or fifteen? :confused:

I suspect your most often used rig will now be the eight inch tops with one or two twelve inch subs. I'd back the little fellas to cope with a big audience, even with my Alto sub. That's my wishlist PA at the moment.

[Imagine]

As far as I can see, the only possible flaw in your cunning plan is if you wished to use fifteen inch tops over twelve inch subs. Would it have offered more options to keep the eighteen inch sub, and get one twelve or fifteen? :confused:

Not going to happen. I've never put the DXR15's on top of anything, not even the DSR118. The only way they go up in the air is on hydraulic tripods (the sub used to live under the booth so that I could keep kicking it back into place when it went walkies during heavy rock sets). I'll be honest, I don't do an awful lot of stuff that needs something the size of an 18" sub (I tend to avoid 18th's, 21st's and young farmers)


I suspect your most often used rig will now be the eight inch tops with one or two twelve inch subs. I'd back the little fellas to cope with a big audience, even with my Alto sub. That's my wishlist PA at the moment.

Correct. Two 8" tops on satellite poles from the 12" subs for symmetry. I suspect the 15's will now be used pretty much exclusively on my retro setup because they work well when they're sitting on the floor like we used to do it back then, and add a sort of "proper" look to that rig rather than having speakers in the air.

I've just fired the DXR8's up again.....I can't stop smiling about the power they've got. Even my teenage son is having trouble understanding how something so small can make such a good quality but loud noise :daft:

[CRAZY K]

even with my Alto sub.

What size is your Alto Sub Peter, whats the RMS output ?

I was enquiring about one at my DJ Shop today:D:D:D:D

thanks

ALAN

[Nakatomi]

What size is your Alto Sub Peter, whats the RMS output ?

I was enquiring about one at my DJ Shop today:D:D:D:D

thanks

ALAN

600WRMS Alan.

123dB continuous.

If you already use 15" wooden tops it'd be debatable whether you'd even notice it.

[CRAZY K]

600WRMS Alan.

123dB continuous.

If you already use 15" wooden tops it'd be debatable whether you'd even notice it.

Im aiming for more overall output not just bass so that might work.

I feel a sound test down the Disco Shop coming on :rolleyes:

[Excalibur]

Not going to happen. I've never put the DXR15's on top of anything, not even the DSR118.
I fear you have misunderstood. Over in the sense of higher frequencies, rather than physically higher than. What I'm referring to is having smaller drivers in the subs than the tops, ie 15" tops, 12" subs. As a wise man once said " Ye cannae change the laws of physics". ;):)

Recently, we've seen in a lot of cases having equal sized drivers leading to a less than perfect sound. While I understand your wish for symetry, what I was meaning was that I felt that one 12" sub hidden under the deckstand would suffice with two 8" tops for most gigs, while you could upgrade to 18"/15" if you needed maximum noise.
It would be interesting to hear what the 15" tops sounded like paired with the 15" tops, out of curiosity.

I understand the benefits of tops on poles over bins, it's so much prettier than tripods, and less of a trip hazard. Please keep us posted on your experiences. I'm keen to know what size of gigs the little fellas could cope with on their own. I suspect it's a sizeable number.


What size is your Alto Sub Peter, whats the RMS output ?




600WRMS Alan.

123dB continuous.

If you already use 15" wooden tops it'd be debatable whether you'd even notice it.
I'm not sure it's actually as much as that, Justin. Davesounds had it to bits to check why it wasn't shaking the glasses off the bar, and the simple reason is, it hasn't got a very big engine. :(:(

Alan, " suck it and see " is the best option. I'm not overly optimistic though, mainly because of what you're trying to connect it to. Good luck.

[Nakatomi]

Maybe 600w program power means 300wrms then. That would tally with the price. Lies, damn lies & spec sheets!

[CRAZY K]

Maybe 600w program power means 300wrms then. That would tally with the price. Lies, damn lies & spec sheets!

Yes PROGRAM AND MUSIC POWER are misleading and about 50-60 per cent of it equates to rms power.

From Peter--

I'm not sure it's actually as much as that, Justin. Davesounds had it to bits to check why it wasn't shaking the glasses off the bar, and the simple reason is, it hasn't got a very big engine.

Alan, " suck it and see " is the best option. I'm not overly optimistic though, mainly because of what you're trying to connect it to. Good luck.



Maybe I should think about a more powerful amp to drive the UL15s, like a lightweight Peavey IPR2 3000?

[Excalibur]

Maybe I should think about a more powerful amp to drive the UL15s, like a lightweight Peavey IPR2 3000?

Alan, I have good news, and bad news. The good news is an IPR2 3000 is around £300. :D


The bad news is, that's in America. :(


The worse news is that's 110v and won't work in this country ( without a monstrously heavy transformer ) :cry:


And adding insult to injury, how much is one designed for this country and 240v? :whistle:


Double it!! (http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Peavey-IPR2-3000-Power-Amplifier/XOO?utm_campaign=bEngine%20-%20Peavey&utm_medium=paid_search&network=google&adgroup=25221455479&matchtype=e&utm_term=peavey%20ipr2%203000&device=c&creative=98430146479&adposition=1t1&gclid=Cj0KEQiAuqC2BRDVxMSnpa-mhZoBEiQAFta8wcO3oEx2xSDjO7DELs1EL6AGC805eOHh2QHZz zQK-BgaAjjW8P8HAQ) :mad::mad::mad:


Edit: And how much for a similarly specced Behringer from Germany?


£200. (http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_inuke_nu3000_endstufe.htm)

[CRAZY K]

Alan, I have good news, and bad news. The good news is an IPR2 3000 is around £300. :D


The bad news is, that's in America. :(


The worse news is that's 110v and won't work in this country ( without a monstrously heavy transformer ) :cry:


And adding insult to injury, how much is one designed for this country and 240v? :whistle:


Double it!! (http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Peavey-IPR2-3000-Power-Amplifier/XOO?utm_campaign=bEngine%20-%20Peavey&utm_medium=paid_search&network=google&adgroup=25221455479&matchtype=e&utm_term=peavey%20ipr2%203000&device=c&creative=98430146479&adposition=1t1&gclid=Cj0KEQiAuqC2BRDVxMSnpa-mhZoBEiQAFta8wcO3oEx2xSDjO7DELs1EL6AGC805eOHh2QHZz zQK-BgaAjjW8P8HAQ) :mad::mad::mad:


Edit: And how much for a similarly specced Behringer from Germany?


£200. (http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_inuke_nu3000_endstufe.htm)

Thanks Peter, more thinking to do, I was reading feedback on the Behringer and was slightly worried how loud it really is.

If it's not much more than my Peavey 500w RMS per channel into 4 ohms then maybe better off adding some sound reinforcement like a couple of smaller powered speakers( EVs we bought from Darren )
or a pair of Altos my son owns.

No rush :D

[CRAZY K]

Thanks Peter, more thinking to do, I was reading feedback on the Behringer and was slightly worried how loud it really is.

If it's not much more than my Peavey 500w RMS per channel into 4 ohms then maybe better off adding some sound reinforcement like a couple of smaller powered speakers( EVs we bought from Darren )
or a pair of Altos my son owns.

No rush :D

Looking at a Peavey 2600 on e bay.

Probably a bad idea just after a Hernia operation:daft::daft::daft:

[Imagine]

Well....it's happened :)

My DSR118 has just disappeared on it's way Thurrock-bound (thanks Ian if you read this one), in exchange for a brace of DXS12's

IT'S CHRIIIIISTTTTMASSSSSS!!!!!

This setup is absolutely AWESOME. I can't believe the quality and quantity of sound coming out of it! Absolutely jaw dropping.

Maybe I'll bring them up to Coalville next year ;)