Playing Music in sets

[ThomasPM]

I have always played music in sets i.e. 80s 90s etc etc however I wondered if this was the case for everyone and if not,have you had a good reaction to mixing things up a bit?

I find that the events I do which are mainly weddings etc are becoming quite similiar although I get good feedback from clients I am finding it quite tedious playing the same songs, in the same sequence week in week out, when I started djing last year I was just happy to have people on the dance floor but surely they too must get bored of hearing the same songs at discos even if they are popular!

So my questions are:

Do you always play music in genre sets?

Is it enough to have people dancing or should i be experimenting and introducing new "Classics" ? Is it worth the risk of clearing the dance floor?

I know I am trying to please a wide audience however by doing this am i playing it safe?

[funkymook]

I have always played music in sets i.e. 80s 90s etc etc however I wondered if this was the case for everyone and if not,have you had a good reaction to mixing things up a bit?

I find that the events I do which are mainly weddings etc are becoming quite similiar although I get good feedback from clients I am finding it quite tedious playing the same songs, in the same sequence week in week out, when I started djing last year I was just happy to have people on the dance floor but surely they too must get bored of hearing the same songs at discos even if they are popular!

So my questions are:

Do you always play music in genre sets?

Is it enough to have people dancing or should i be experimenting and introducing new "Classics" ? Is it worth the risk of clearing the dance floor?

I know I am trying to please a wide audience however by doing this am i playing it safe?

This is where experience comes in, and you only gain experience by trying things.

You’ve built up a good foundation with what you already do so I think you can risk throwing in a few tunes which aren’t on your regular list and see what happens, even if you clear the floor it doesn’t ruin the night, in fact some people might welcome the break to go and get a drink, have a smoke, go to the loo etc.

You can also start discussing music with your clients a bit more, ask what their, and their friend’s and family's favourites are, take more requests (every DJ has experienced the request we play under duress because we don’t think it will work and it’s the tune of the night!).

Also start mixing up your sets a bit, it’s not good to jump around the styles, genres BPM’s in a disjointed fashion but there are many tunes that blend well together that don’t fit into the same categories.

Soon you’ll be developing your own style of DJ’ing and it will b much more fun for you.

[Nakatomi]

To me, flow is more important than 'sets' as such. Yes I can play music of the same style for a while but (and I hate to say this because it sounds so corny) for me it's about a journey. As funkymook says, try to mix things up a bit. Take risks now & again. As mentioned, it doesn't matter if you clear the floor for a song or two - you could play the same 6 songs in the same order for 10 completely different gigs in a row & not lose a dancer but next time the formula falls flat on its bum - then what do you do?

Lots of tracks from different genres & eras have enough similarities in beat structure, melody, lyrics.. any number of things in common which we can use to link things together. Be a spotter. Try new things. Practice at home (!). Listen to the music. What other tracks does it sound/feel like? etc.

And yes, you can genre jump or completely change direction suddenly but there has to be context and you shouldn't do it too often. Radio stations play dance then RnB then ballad, then dance, then ballad.. but radio programming went all to hell years ago, and nobody dances to the radio anyway.

Programming is a skill which can take years to get to grips with & you may never master it (I'm still learning) but it's essential to become an excellent DJ IMHO. Don't be the DJ everybody sets their watch by. And for pity's sake don't play Guns N Roses Sweet Child of Mine around Bon Jovi - Livin On a Prayer :lol:

[Excalibur]

Thomas, the definitive answer to this one, is like finding the Holy Grail. :) As Martin says, a full dancefloor means it ain't broke, so doesn't need a lot of fixing.
I haven't much to add to Martin's advice, merely to point out a policy which can work on grim nights in particular. Play three songs of one style till you get success. It can be helpful at weddings and other functions with widely varying age groups.

As you've now realised, there is a danger of DJ'ing by numbers, and playing the same things at the same time every gig. That's why we so love the gigs where we don't play The Usual Suspects.

[DazzyD]

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I find that the events I do which are mainly weddings etc are becoming quite similiar although I get good feedback from clients I am finding it quite tedious playing the same songs, in the same sequence week in week out, when I started djing last year I was just happy to have people on the dance floor but surely they too must get bored of hearing the same songs at discos even if they are popular!
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Oh, dear! :doh: You've fallen for "DJ Schoolboy Error #1"! Just because you, as the DJ, hear the same songs week in week out, it doesn't mean that the guests at your party do. It might have been ten years since they were last at a wedding dancing to Macarena or Dancing Queen! I think a lot of DJs fall in to this trap. I've heard of DJs refusing to play requests because they're sick of hearing them. But they should remember that the event is not for them. DJs are not there to entertain themselves (although some invariably do!). They are there to entertain the client and the client's guests. Always remember that and you'll become very popular amongst your clients! ;)


Thomas, the definitive answer to this one, is like finding the Holy Grail. :) As Martin says, a full dancefloor means it ain't broke, so doesn't need a lot of fixing.
I haven't much to add to Martin's advice, merely to point out a policy which can work on grim nights in particular. Play three songs of one style till you get success. It can be helpful at weddings and other functions with widely varying age groups.

As you've now realised, there is a danger of DJ'ing by numbers, and playing the same things at the same time every gig. That's why we so love the gigs where we don't play The Usual Suspects.

+1 for the 3 songs then move on policy!! :)

[ThomasPM]

This is where experience comes in, and you only gain experience by trying things.

You can also start discussing music with your clients a bit more, ask what their, and their friend’s and family's favourites are, take more requests (every DJ has experienced the request we play under duress because we don’t think it will work and it’s the tune of the night!).

Soon you’ll be developing your own style of DJ’ing and it will b much more fun for you.

I have always been a bit reluctant to ask for requests just in case I didn't have a particular song or couldn't work it in but I now have the ability to download any song I want plus my collection has increased considerably so, yes going forward I must ask for more requests and yes I totally agree some of the requests I have reluctantly played have gone down a storm.

My own style is what I am aiming for as this is what will keep me interested and djing for the right reasons!



Programming is a skill which can take years to get to grips with & you may never master it (I'm still learning) but it's essential to become an excellent DJ IMHO. Don't be the DJ everybody sets their watch by. And for pity's sake don't play Guns N Roses Sweet Child of Mine around Bon Jovi - Livin On a Prayer :lol:

Guns n Roses then Bon Jovi never it has to be Summer of 69 surely :whistle:,but yes juski this is exactly what im moving away from maybe I will play Guns N Roses then Joy Division love will tear us apart next time see how it goes.
I am working on the Programing and even deleted all my go to playlists recently so I cant constantly fall back on the same songs.


a policy which can work on grim nights in particular. Play three songs of one style till you get success. It can be helpful at weddings and other functions with widely varying age groups.

As you've now realised, there is a danger of DJ'ing by numbers, and playing the same things at the same time every gig. That's why we so love the gigs where we don't play The Usual Suspects.

That's a great policy as ive always teased with single tracks but three makes more sense so I think I will adopt this!

And yeh the danger of Djing by numbers is it gets so boring that everyone loses interest!

Thanks all for the great advice looking forward to getting out on my next gig and trying these ideas out!

[ppentertainments]

Oh, dear! :doh: You've fallen for "DJ Schoolboy Error #1"! Just because you, as the DJ, hear the same songs week in week out, it doesn't mean that the guests at your party do. It might have been ten years since they were last at a wedding dancing to Macarena or Dancing Queen! I think a lot of DJs fall in to this trap. I've heard of DJs refusing to play requests because they're sick of hearing them. But they should remember that the event is not for them. DJs are not there to entertain themselves (although some invariably do!). They are there to entertain the client and the client's guests. Always remember that and you'll become very popular amongst your clients! ;)


Especially important at Xmas when even the bar staff are starting to guess 'what song is next' lol.

[DazzyD]

Especially important at Xmas when even the bar staff are starting to guess 'what song is next' lol.

Surely at Christmas parties you just load in your playlist and set it to "random???!!! :eek:

;)

[musicology]

IMHO. And for pity's sake don't play Guns N Roses Sweet Child of Mine around Bon Jovi - Livin On a Prayer :lol:

I regularly do that! While they're singing "WHOA-OH LIVING ON A PRAYER" at full pelt, with the music dipped out completely, I bring in the intro of "Sweet Child".
Come on, They LOVE IT!

[DJColsie]

+1 for the 3 songs then move on policy!! :)

I agree, but there are times when 3 is too many and I use 2 and move on!

[CRAZY K]

I have always played music in sets i.e. 80s 90s etc etc however I wondered if this was the case for everyone and if not,have you had a good reaction to mixing things up a bit?

I find that the events I do which are mainly weddings etc are becoming quite similiar although I get good feedback from clients I am finding it quite tedious playing the same songs, in the same sequence week in week out, when I started djing last year I was just happy to have people on the dance floor but surely they too must get bored of hearing the same songs at discos even if they are popular!

So my questions are:

Do you always play music in genre sets?

Is it enough to have people dancing or should i be experimenting and introducing new "Classics" ? Is it worth the risk of clearing the dance floor?

I know I am trying to please a wide audience however by doing this am i playing it safe?

Your job is to get people dancing and or be happy with the music you play--never mind what it takes.

Well thats my take.

Sooo if you are successful and its working why worry?

Try a few things differently but I wouldnt do that too often.

Start worrying when they dont dance.

These days i dont do much general Private Party disco but when I do I ask for 25 must play songs and 25 others as second choice with the proviso they are suitable for the event.

Works for me and my clients.

As Dazzy said, YOU hear the tunes every week --customers dont.

I have about 6 Barn and Line dance tunes i use EVERY SINGLE GIG IN THE SAME ORDER.

Thats part of my show.

Do I get sick of hearing these tunes and earning money---:rolleyes:

[funkymook]

As Dazzy said, YOU hear the tunes every week --customers dont.

I have about 6 Barn and Line dance tunes i use EVERY SINGLE GIG IN THE SAME ORDER.

Thats part of my show.

Do I get sick of hearing these tunes and earning money---:rolleyes:

That is the other way of looking at it. A band will usually use the same set, actors repeat the same lines in a play - do they get bored of the repetition? Of course they do. But that’s all part of being a professional entertainer.

Often it’s the few special requests that perks it us for us, but you will always be playing the standards to a general crowd.

[musicology]

The important thing is not to LOOK bored. That will wreck the night.

[rth_discos]

Think about a West End theatre show.

An extreme example, but it's the same script every day, often for years. Yet when you go and see the show, not only is it new to you, but crucially, the cast make it look like it's the first time they've performed it.

[CRAZY K]

Think about a West End theatre show.

An extreme example, but it's the same script every day, often for years. Yet when you go and see the show, not only is it new to you, but crucially, the cast make it look like it's the first time they've performed it.

Very true, but what about playing YMCA for the millionth time :D:Censored: :D:D:D

[rth_discos]

Very true, but what about playing YMCA for the millionth time :D:Censored: :D:D:D

If I was an actor, I wouldn't take a part in the Mama Mia musical...

It's about finding the right clients :)

I played YMCA once last year...

[Shakermaker Promotions]

As has been said already, some customers may not have heard something for years whereas we may play that something week in, week out.
Christmas parties, weddings etc... The majority of those may be the 'older' crowd?

I'd say it's the 18+ and mid-20 something's that generally want to hear the latest chart stuff and maybe genre specific stuff (R&B, Dance for example).

I am a firm believer in playing stuff in sets but I think I know when to switch because enough is enough. It's all about 'reading' that dance floor.

One of the Christmas parties I had last year was mainly a crowd of under 30's with a couple of exceptions. They wanted a full range of music which also included lots of cheesiness.

Another Christmas party had a crowd of under 30's that wanted predominantly chart stuff, R&B and classic dance tracks. When I attempted to change styles and flipped to the 80's with the likes of Whitney Houston, only a few remained on the dance floor so it was back to the stuff which was packing it out beforehand.

I like it when someone asks for something that is quirky but you have to judge whether the other guests would be into it too and again, that's all about reading the dance floor.
I think someone else said it - Don't be scared to clear the dance floor whilst trying / testing out things.

[TONYTIGER]

That is the other way of looking at it. A band will usually use the same set, actors repeat the same lines in a play - do they get bored of the repetition? Of course they do. But that’s all part of being a professional entertainer.

Often it’s the few special requests that perks it us for us, but you will always be playing the standards to a general crowd.

Great answer,every night its a new crowd just play what makes them happy its what you are paid for.

[yourdj]

I got Serato when it came out and have always mixed music since CD's, so 80% of the time I select tracks based on BPM mainly, but also as Shaun says experience if it will work or not, which allows me to mix different types of music together. Makes things really interesting especially with a decent client playlist as I always try and nail every track. Sets definitely have their place, especially if a certain genre works, but playing the same set list week in week out would bore me to tears. :)

There are some actual playlist as they were played on the night on this page on my site: http://yourdj.co.uk/music-ideas/

[mattydj50]

Great answer,every night its a new crowd just play what makes them happy its what you are paid for.

I've done a Christmas Party for a logistics firm now for the last 5 years and the same band has performed each time. I could probably write down their set list now, 6 weeks later and its virtually the same as the first one, with just a couple of recent additions (the ubiquitous and obligatory Uptown Funk being one of course).

I never get fed up of playing anything if that's what it takes. Apart from Let it go, let it goooooo, of course. Aaaaarrrggghh!!!!

[Excalibur]

I never get fed up of playing anything if that's what it takes. Apart from Let it go, let it goooooo, of course. Aaaaarrrggghh!!!!

Correctamundo on both counts. The seed for another thread has just been planted.

However, when we get the chance to play something we don't play week in, week out, it's a lovely feeling, especially when we get a whole evening.

[mattydj50]

Correctamundo on both counts. The seed for another thread has just been planted.

However, when we get the chance to play something we don't play week in, week out, it's a lovely feeling, especially when we get a whole evening.

Absolutely. That one request once in a while reawakens some dark corner of the memory from years ago.