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dicky
08-09-2016, 11:05 AM
Hi guys

Well I've not been around this last couple of months or so and I would like to think some you even missed me a bit, or at least noted my absence

So here I am in case any of you wondered what happened to me - like did I trip over a shoe lace and fall off the planet or something.

I'm pleased to say I didn't fall and that I am alive and kicking but yes something has happened. Something bad. I can put that something into one word. Six little letters. It's not even a proper word really, like I doubt it would be allowed in a game of Scrabble, it's more like something somebody made up to describe something that could already be adequately described with the existing words already we have - but I guess they though it was big or clever so they made it up anyway. Brexit.

Now let me just say Mr Moderator I have a few things I need to get off my chest here and I feel I know some of you folks even though I neve met a lot of you but all this is relevant to mobile DJing in the end so feel free to edit the stuff where I bent some rules if not downright broke them. Do bear in mind one thing you may want to delete is actually a lyric by Paul Weller so it should be allowed to stay LOL So let me say these things here where I feel comfortable to rant... err I mean speak..

OK so six little letters. One word Brexit. Now you may wonder what that has to do with me and Dicky's Disco

Well..... whichever way you voted you must have heard the warnings that a Brexit vote would be a very bad thing for some British businesses right? Well I can tell you the warning was true and I came down on the wrong end of it Most of you know that the DJing is a part time 'extra money' type thing for me and some of you probably know what I do for a living. What business I own and run for a living. Or did own and run. Thanks wholly to the Brexiters that business is no more. The vote put me in an untenable position and I had no reasonable option other than to close the business down on 24th July and dispose of the business assets. We are talking about a business that I built from scratch 14 years ago, that has kept me and mrs dicky in a decent living for a very long time and something I was passionate about and felt proud of building. Also a business that meant we could employ a guy who has worked with me all those years and who has become a very good friend in the process. The same guy I had to sit down and explain why he no longer has an income. And that's one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

It's upsetting me even writing this now but I can tell you all I have been through every emotion you could imagine since 22nd June. Shock, disbelief, anger, hate, bitterness, sadness and yes I have sat there and wept and I am big enough to admit it. I've even felt ashamed to be British Now I'm just left with a simmering resentment that doesn't bother me too much if I don't think about it but I am not sure it will ever go away.

You may wonder why this situation was forced on me. Well let's put it like this. 52% of the country want to leave the EU and you can bet some of those 52% are the same guys who go to the local pub on a Saturday afternoon to watch the 3pm football games. The games that Sky and BT don't show. The ones that you can only watch on European subscriptions. Sadly enough these guys who have caused this mess are also ones who probably sit at the bar during half time moaning because some family with a foriegn sounding name has moved in down the road.

Well I hope these guys will realise what they have done when they suddenly find they can't watch the local Premier Leage team at the pub any more on Saturday afternoons because the fact is the only way businesses like mine were able to supply that service was because a landlady in Portsmouth, funded by the industry I was part of, dragged the Premier League's ass through the European courts. And the only reason we could continue to provide this service is because the Premier League, who basically ignored the EU ruling anyway knew full well that if they tried to stop us again they would end up having their asses being kicked by the EU again. There is a very important case relevant to all this which is going through the British High court on October 12th and that would have ensured the 3pm football in pubs for some years to come. That case is still being heard but the outcome doesn't really matter any more. The threat of being dragged back to europe for all intents and purposes no longer exists.

Actually the market in which I was involved is quite a close knit community - there were probably only about first line 10 suppliers UK wide (anyone else was a reseller) - which of course made it quite lucrative. And over the years I have come to know many of those suppliers. After Brexit most of them either sold up, gave up, or stopped trading becuase franky they were too damn scared of continuing to trade. I am one of the last category. Too Scared. As far as I know there are only four suppliers left still in business who were either very brave or to stupid to see the writing was on the wall.

I say stupid because now as I type this a couple months later three of them are in Civil Litigation with the F.A. and the other one has been arrested on criminal charges.

So if you are watching the 3pm footy down the pub this weekend, or the next, or maybe even the next couple of months if you are lucky, please do quietly cosider that it is all going to end very soon. And if you were one of the 52% at least that will give you more time to sit at the bar and moan about foreigners living in the UK - whilst wondering why your once thriving local community pub is closing down next week. And I can tell you I know as an absolute fact from many years in this business, that a lot of community pubs absolutely rely on the 3pm saturday games to make their business viable. And when maybe they do close down.... well at least you can say you voted for it.

That's what has happened to me and what I am sure will happen to many pubs.

Now faced with an seemingly unsurmountable problem of standing in the face of left wing voters supporting right wing politicians just to reduce net migration whilst trampling over our own rights to travel and work and destroying my livelyhood in the process - I came to the conclusion there is only one reasonable option left. Give up. :bang: Or rather more positively 'well if you can't beat them you might as well join them'

So I say now to the 52% and to the holy tory government............ YES! I will do my utmost to help you reduce net migration and so will Mrs Dicky - becuase I guarantee that the next time your net migration figures are released they are going to be two less in the UK than they would have been!!! :p:p:p I hope you are proud of that achievement. Where is the damn 'finger' emoticon when you need it?

And as they say the Sun does shine brighter on the other side. A lot brighter. I've seen it.

Next week we are going for a two week holiday to Puerto Rico in Gran Canaria. Its a lovely place, rarely goes below 20C in winter, rarely goes above 30C in the summer and has less than 4 inches of rain a year. Unless you get a heatwave which can happen any time of winter or summer and add another 10C to those temperatiures for a few days or a week. And it's gonna be a nice holiday I am sure, but we are not only going to relax. We have lots of viewing appointemnts booked and when we come back we fully intend to have the keys to our new home.

There are lots of great things about living there - no council tax, no VAT, no Fuel or alcohol duty. No tabacco duty either if you prefer to kill yourself by that method. Oh and you don't require to heat your home and even water is solar heated. So it is much cheaper to live there. There are some problems though, for example the price of a small tin of Heinz baked beans is eye watering :rolleyes:

We will be back here all of October as I have 4 disco bookings and we need to be getting ready to move everything we need to live there (will check how many baked beans we can realistically pack) and then we will be there all November

Back once again for December as I have 7 bookings already (and not even got Xmas Eve, boxing day or NYE booked yet) plus we want to spend time with our families over xmas.

NYE will be my last gig. I guess that is going to be a bit emotional too.

Come January we will be back to the sun for a month. I'm thinking of coming back and selling all my gear in February. And I will post a list of what there is plus some pics on here first. There is rather a lot of it too as I have two complete DJ setups plus extra speakers, amps and uplighters I was going to hire out but never got round to it. Hopefully if there is a Coalville meeting this year I can bring the gear with me as I know quite a few of you go there. I will also have one last attempt at demoing a PA that actually works properly :)

Then that's it for me. Back to Gran Canaria later in February and I don't need to come back again at least until September for a short visit.

I'm not retiring by the way - I will be looking for some DJ work in the local bars and clubs there and will take my music, playout and sennheiser mic with me. - hey I may actually get to play for some folks who are actually up for having a fun party night for a change!! :beer1: LOL. Plus I am looking at setting up an electronics servicing business and also have gone back to do some Forex trading which was how I made extra money before setting up the disco, and the break from that seems to have greatly enhanced my ability to do it profitably.

Obviously learning to speak spanish properly (I can manage a small amount already) is a big priority too. Anyway I am not under any pressure to earn money at the moment so there is plenty of time to settle in.

So that's what has happened, where I have been.......... and where I am going. I would love to hear about DJing in the sun and I guess some of you have experience of that - hey I will probably set up a new thread for that discussion.


Rich

Nakatomi
08-09-2016, 11:31 AM
Whoah Rich, I was wondering where you'd got to.

I guess you don't see any point in holding out to see whether we really are going to exit or not. It's still up in the air as far as I see it despite what our blessed politicians are saying. That still doesn't solve the problem of the sheer lunacy of the UK premier league's monopoly though. Tough call.

Nobody could blame you for packing up, and good on you for planning to learn the lingo at least. Assimilate yourself - I think too many Brit expats rely way too much on other expats & this is where their experience becomes a disappointment for them.

Shaun
08-09-2016, 11:42 AM
Wondered where you'd got to Dicky.

Only you know what is best for you. Gran Canaria is nice - I hope it all works out for you.

Ok...moderator hat on. By rights, quite a large part of your post should be deleted as political discussion is a big no no here on the forum. However, I'm hoping that our lovely members choose not to carry on the flag and run with that discussion (as I'll unfortunately have to remove the thread). I'm a born optimist though. :d

rth_discos
08-09-2016, 01:05 PM
Wow, sounds quite complex.

*post edited.

Shaun
08-09-2016, 02:52 PM
I guess I was wrong to be optimistic. The very next post after mine had to be edited.

Ok, let me be blunt. Do not carry on any type of political discussion on the forum. Posts will unfortunately have to be edited or removed if they do. And ultimately it may result in the thread itself being removed. Thanks for understanding.

rth_discos
08-09-2016, 03:31 PM
I guess I was wrong to be optimistic. The very next post after mine had to be edited.

Ok, let me be blunt. Do not carry on any type of political discussion on the forum. Posts will unfortunately have to be edited or removed if they do. And ultimately it may result in the thread itself being removed. Thanks for understanding.

Sorry, my bad :zip:

musicology
08-09-2016, 03:37 PM
Sorry you have been adversely affected. Personally I hate to see tvs in pubs and actively avoid them. I hope to retire to, and Dj in, Greece in the next few years!

Excalibur
08-09-2016, 03:49 PM
Funnily enough Dicky, it was only the other day I was wondering where you'd got to. Let me say I sympathise with you, it must be devastating to lose a business through no fault of your own. :(
Leaving aside who is/are the villain/s of the piece, let's hope that the grass is indeed greener in Gran Canaria for you, and I wish you every success there. I think Old Sidesaddle was hoping to do something similar, but I believe he was going elsewhere.
Don't forget that although you may be in another country, and a part time, or retired DJ, you'll still be welcome here.
All the best.

dicky
08-09-2016, 03:50 PM
And thank you Shaun for allowing me to say what I felt I need to say and I can tell you I feel a lot better just for getting all this off my chest here amongst folks who I consider as friends.

I understand why you chose to leave it standing even though I broke a lot of rules. Did anyone spot the Paul Weller lyric quote in there?

Thanks Justin for your kind words . We are not burning any bridges at the moment. We are going to keep our property in the UK for now and will be renting for 12 months in Gran Canaria to see if the ex pat life really is 'living the dream'. I'm keeping hold of the van for a while yet too. In fact we think we will always keep a UK address even if we sell this place and just get a little terrace and keep the rest of the money.. Or get two. And rent one of them out. Regards my business and livelyhood - it's gone now. If I had decided to continue I could see myself having to fight a civil law suit and it wouldn't even matter who was right or wrong. I simply can't fight an aggressive organisation with an unlimited pot of money. That's why I got out now and boy am I glad I did.

Gran Canaria I hope we are gonna love. This is one of those lifetime moments for me where you just have to throw in the towel and start over again so I thought if i am going t odo that I may as well have a complete break with my previous life and do it somewhere.... well..... nicer.

I will still be around though even when I sell Dicky's Disco. I am hoping to be doing some DJing over there.

Cheers
Rich

And thanks very much for your kind words Peter and musicology. You posted while I was replying. And you are right Peter - you lot ain't getting rid of me that easily :p

I always did like to play a bit of hispanic style RnB!

Shaun
08-09-2016, 04:25 PM
Sorry, my bad :zip:

No worries, and thanks for understanding. :)

rth_discos
08-09-2016, 06:55 PM
12 months in Gran Canaria to see if the ex pat life really is 'living the dream'.

Please do keep us updated with what the reality is like - I'd love to hear the reality of it, and I do hope it is living the dream for you.

dicky
08-09-2016, 08:03 PM
Cheers RTH I cetainly willl

I'll post some pics soon as we get back late september if we have our new home to show you.

Hmmmm so who has previous experience of DJing in a overseas holiday resort then?

Rich

Excalibur
08-09-2016, 08:35 PM
Hmmmm so who has previous experience of DJing in a overseas holiday resort then?


Vectis? :D ( If that's a tad obscure Dicky, he lives on the Isle of Wight. )

dicky
08-09-2016, 09:47 PM
Well in all honesty the Isle of Wight is positively tropical compared to Stoke-on-trent !

Still nobody spotted the direct reference on my first post to a classic Paul Weller track from his political and IMHO justifiably angry early 1980s phase? I'll give a clue - think Style Council ;)

rth_discos
09-09-2016, 06:39 AM
Hmmmm so who has previous experience of DJing in a overseas holiday resort then?



Get on Derek Pengelly's DJ Mentor programme: https://www.facebook.com/djmentor365/

He is based in Cyrprus so can teach you everything about doing destination weddings.

TONYTIGER
09-09-2016, 07:08 AM
Get on Derek Pengelly's DJ Mentor programme: https://www.facebook.com/djmentor365/

He is based in Cyrprus so can teach you everything about doing destination weddings.

Does Cuba count regular spot there for many years.

mattydj50
09-09-2016, 11:48 AM
Well in all honesty the Isle of Wight is positively tropical compared to Stoke-on-trent !

Still nobody spotted the direct reference on my first post to a classic Paul Weller track from his political and IMHO justifiably angry early 1980s phase? I'll give a clue - think Style Council ;)

My sister lives there and says its like being stuck in the 1980's too!

scott23
09-09-2016, 12:31 PM
I hate to sound negative, Just a wee tip* Spain is not a friendly country to the budding entrepreneur. I lived there and was self employed. There is this thing called Autonomo and Autonomo basically means you have to pay 250 euro per month to be self employed, even if you have only earned 1 euro, you still pay 250 euro. You dont pay it, they seize your bank accounts within 24 hours, you cant use any medical facilities, banks etc.

So just make sure you are earning enough to cover that and also to 20% tax on every cent. Most british companys over in Spain are registered here as Spain is notorious for bureaucracy, you shall mostly need a jestor to sort it all out for you. I would never run a business in Spain, but hey I would love to live there again.

Sorry to hear that brexit was so bad for your company, every region here is Scotland voted against leaving, but I suppose we all just gotta suck it up. I shall miss the European court on human rights. They came in handy personally.

All the very best.

rth_discos
09-09-2016, 12:45 PM
My sister lives there and says its like being stuck in the 1980's too!

You'll have to be careful, along with Vectis, it's where I'm originally from, so you might find a few of us Islanders suddenly ganging up to defend our beautiful Isle... ;)

But yes, it is stuck in the 1980s in parts. A shame - it has an opportunity to present itself as an upmarket retreat without faffing around with flying, and is kind of there with some amazing countryside, hotels and food, but needs to polish its look a bit in the towns!

dicky
09-09-2016, 08:22 PM
@scott23

Thanks for the info - we do know some things about applying for an NIE (this is roughly equivalent to a national insurance number over here) and also how to apply for Residencia at the required time. We know the requirements for NIE and we do meet them. I guess that is not always a guarantee though.

Actually the way things have been going I may end up living soley from my Forex trading - I have been making some very good profits with tightly controlled losses the last few months. Certainly enough to live comfortably. Once I can relax in nice surroundings and trade without distractions I suspect I can do even better. Really all I need is internet access and I can do this from anywhere in the world.

My forex broker is based in Eire and I just withdraw earnings on a Mastercard they provide which is attached to the account, and I can do that from any ATM anywhere. Because I trade CFDs I am not liable for capital gains tax here in the UK either. I haven't actually looked how that would apply in Spain but I guess it's probably the same and really I am not earning the money or 'working' in Spain, I am earning it in Eire? I am also of the understanding from expat forums that the tax situation is different in the Canary Islands than it is in mainland Spain. much like the Channel Islands are different form mainland UK.

Rich

scott23
10-09-2016, 07:21 AM
@scott23

Thanks for the info - we do know some things about applying for an NIE (this is roughly equivalent to a national insurance number over here) and also how to apply for Residencia at the required time. We know the requirements for NIE and we do meet them. I guess that is not always a guarantee though.

Actually the way things have been going I may end up living soley from my Forex trading - I have been making some very good profits with tightly controlled losses the last few months. Certainly enough to live comfortably. Once I can relax in nice surroundings and trade without distractions I suspect I can do even better. Really all I need is internet access and I can do this from anywhere in the world.

My forex broker is based in Eire and I just withdraw earnings on a Mastercard they provide which is attached to the account, and I can do that from any ATM anywhere. Because I trade CFDs I am not liable for capital gains tax here in the UK either. I haven't actually looked how that would apply in Spain but I guess it's probably the same and really I am not earning the money or 'working' in Spain, I am earning it in Eire? I am also of the understanding from expat forums that the tax situation is different in the Canary Islands than it is in mainland Spain. much like the Channel Islands are different form mainland UK.

Rich

You should be fine to get your NIE within a week of applying as we are still in the EU. It's just the whole self employment thing over there isn't very inviting. Most expat DJs do it on the black anyways. Just if its long term then you want to be registered to get healthcare etc. If you buy a house there I'm sure you shall be fine in the long term.
Good luck mate, its a cracking standard of life over there if you don't mind shops being shut in the middle of the day and the slow pace. Believe it or not i still miss mercadona and my 2euro wine.

Excalibur
10-09-2016, 07:52 AM
Good luck mate, its a cracking standard of life over there if you don't mind shops being shut in the middle of the day and the slow pace. Believe it or not i still miss mercadona and my 2euro wine.

Should my Lottery numbers ever come up, after buying some very flash kit to finish my last bookings with, very careful consideration would be given to retiring to somewhere on the Costa Dorada. I can do slow paced. :)

Vectis
10-09-2016, 08:13 AM
along with Vectis, it's where I'm originally from

I'm not local. I just like the 80s :D



needs to polish its look a bit in the towns!

What do you expect from a ghetto created by inbreeding?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-36987074

True though, some of the resorts suffer the same issues as many seaside towns but I'm pleased to say there's a lot of planning and redevelopment work starting to take shape ... which is why I'll be out of here shortly heading VERY north :beer1:

dicky
10-09-2016, 09:10 AM
You should be fine to get your NIE within a week of applying as we are still in the EU. It's just the whole self employment thing over there isn't very inviting. Most expat DJs do it on the black anyways. Just if its long term then you want to be registered to get healthcare etc. If you buy a house there I'm sure you shall be fine in the long term.
Good luck mate, its a cracking standard of life over there if you don't mind shops being shut in the middle of the day and the slow pace. Believe it or not i still miss mercadona and my 2euro wine.

Cheers Scott, yeah I know most people (islanders and otherwise) working in the tourist bars are working on The Black. And actually you can forget 2 euros wine - Gran Canaria at current prices it's just 1.45 euro for a litre and a half of delicious Don Simon Sangria mmmmmmmmm And that's from Hiperdino or some other similar 'tourist' supermarket. Not tried the big out of town ones yet.

Peter if the slow life is something that suits your mentality look into it further mate. You may be suprised how inexpensive it is to rent or buy there and to live there. That's a big part of the reason we are going to try it, the other being the weather. It is true though that while the Canary Islands are on the same time zone as us, there is a big difference between GMT and SMT (Spanish Manana Time)!! :rolleyes:

Rich

Nakatomi
10-09-2016, 09:58 AM
Most expat DJs do it on the black anyways. So not really all that different from here then ;) I've not met many DJs recently who openly talk about their book keeping. I know loads of people here (probably the majority) do, but that isn't most DJs is it?

Excalibur
10-09-2016, 11:06 AM
So not really all that different from here then ;) I've not met many DJs recently who openly talk about their book keeping. I know loads of people here (probably the majority) do,

:angel:

Benny Smyth
10-09-2016, 12:27 PM
I've not met many DJs recently who openly talk about their book keeping.

I keep all my books. I paid good money for them, and I've already got some fully coloured in. :)

dicky
10-09-2016, 03:51 PM
@justin
Have you noticed on your avatar pic you appear to have a 'Spock' ear on the right side of your head? Your right hand side that is.

Nakatomi
10-09-2016, 04:06 PM
@justin
Have you noticed on your avatar pic you appear to have a 'Spock' ear on the right side of your head? Your right hand side that is.

Oh that's a new thing. Happens when you're a resident DJ doing mostly weddings quite often I hear.

Excalibur
10-09-2016, 05:46 PM
@justin
Have you noticed on your avatar pic you appear to have a 'Spock' ear on the right side of your head? Your right hand side that is.

He's descended from Davy Crockett you know. That's why he has a left ear, a right ear, and a wild front ear. :coat:

rth_discos
10-09-2016, 09:48 PM
=Most expat DJs do it on the black anyways.


My neighbour said her husband used to be a mobile DJ in Spain when they lived there - and did it on the black.

Charged €50 a night. My eyes nearly popped out.

Fifty Euro Jose...

Excalibur
10-09-2016, 10:03 PM
My neighbour said her husband used to be a mobile DJ in Spain when they lived there - and did it on the black.

Charged €50 a night. My eyes nearly popped out.

Fifty Euro Jose...

You'd never get that round here. :sofa:

Nakatomi
11-09-2016, 08:14 AM
He's descended from Davy Crockett you know. That's why he has a left ear, a right ear, and a wild front ear. :coat:

Or it could be I've already lived in Shildon too long. The inter-finger webbing is coming along nicely too.

DazzyD
11-09-2016, 11:02 AM
Or it could be I've already lived in Shildon too long. The inter-finger webbing is coming along nicely too.

One of the first pubs I worked was in Shildon. My memory is not great but The Three Tuns rings a bell?

ckpr2
11-09-2016, 03:23 PM
Sad to hear your story, there are some dodgy people around.

I have seen problematic business dealings for many years.
Customers who wont pay.
Customers who say the service they got wasn't up to standard just to get a refund.

I did a disco in the late 1970's where my boss said I could keep the nights takings as payment for about 10 previous gigs I had done.
The end of the night came and no payment.
I found out whose birthday party it was and he said he didn't know who had organised it.
I asked my boss and he just said he hadn't got a name and was just told he would pay on the night.
So I just took a hit on it.

Nakatomi
12-09-2016, 11:04 PM
One of the first pubs I worked was in Shildon. My memory is not great but The Three Tuns rings a bell?

Ring a bell? It's my wife's favourite hostelry in the town. I have it on good authority that it's the one that's most civilised by a long shot. Being the nutter magnet wot I am, I still haven't been in there for a pint yet though. Small world, this Darren, very very small indeed!

dicky
04-10-2016, 06:30 PM
OK folks - time for an update

We went out to GC with a folder which had print-outs of 10 properties we wanted to view. We arrived on the Tuesday evening 4th Sept and had an appointment booked with one estate agent on the Weds 5th to view four properties in Puerto Rico. On the Weds morning we also popped in to see another couple of estate agents we had been in touch with by email.

Went to the appointment on Weds only to find that there were now only three properties as one had already been rented and we couldn't view any of those three until the Monday - but she had another one in Playa Del Ingles (not the area we were looking for but a place we really like) which we did view but it wasn't really what we were looking for - it was a very traditional bungalow with large very private terrace and shares pool but we were after something more modern. So we decided to wait until monday

Popped in to see a fourth estate agent on the Thurs morning.

The info we were getting from all of these estate agents was pretty much the same: The island is full! A lot of europeans have descended upon Gran Canaria and want to move there permanenty. These people fall roughly into three groups

Brits who want to move due to Brexit (seems we are not the only ones)
Dutch families (mainly) who want to move because they are so worried about 'Paris style' terror attacks
Germans who are angry with Angela Merkel immigration policy and no longer wish to live in Germany

And typically the Germans got there first lol!

Anyway to cut the long story short - 'Spanish Manana Time' set in and everything became tomorrow... tomorrow.... so of the 10 properties we wanted to view in Puerto Rico, by the Tuesday 11th when we had been there one week we only managed to view one, with the option to view another on the Weds. The other eight were no longer available - plus we had the option to view two in the next town along towards the airport called Patalavaca.

We went to look at this town, it's right next to a resort called Anfi Beach, and we liked the area and it's only 5 mins from Puerto rico by taxi so we were considering it.

Two of the three we were viewing on Monday were already gone - but the one we did view in Puerto Rico on the Monday was an interesting one..... and this should give you a good idea what is available there and for how much:

It was in the valley of Puerto Rico (no mountains to walk up or down and Puerto Rico is very UP and DOWN!) Two floor house (they call them a duplex) 2 bedrooms (sleeps four), main bathroom + guest shower room, spacious kitchen big enough for day-to-day living, laundry + storage room, lounge, outdoor terrace downstairs and balcony from master bedroom on first floor. Came fully furnished ready to move in, and had a large communal pool with 18 properties on the complex. Had outdoor patio furniture and sun loungers for the pool and was in a quiet area opposite park about five mins walk to the beach and five mins walk to the main centre for shops, bars, restaurants etc. Price for that 700 euro per month including water and electricity. Nothign else to pay other than food and drink. OK sounds good..... and we thought so too and nearly went for it.

As we were finishing viewing there we got a call from one of the other agents to view a property on the Tuesday 5pm in Playa Del Cura which is 5 mins by taxi to the other side (south) of Puerto Rico.

We had a really good think about the one we had seen for 700 euro as we knew the others were also a bit more money - but decided to take a chance and view the other onr in Playa Del Cura (Tues) and two in Patalavaca plus another in Puerto Rico (Weds). Also we felt we know ourselves all too well, and if we lived somewhere that close to main entertainment centre we would be very tempted to go out on the :beer1: every night - which sounds like fun but we are supposed to be finding somewhere to live not party every night!

In the evenings we had been chatting with just about every english person we could meet who were working in bars or restaurants to find out as much as we could about island life and work. Now I have some interesting info to divulge. Firstly the word on the street is that there is plenty of work for english speakers and also that the money so not so bad. Talked to one girl several times and she became very chatty when she learned we intend to move there - she was living in Puerto Rico with her boyfriend. She was paying 600 euro per month, 2 bedroom house, pool etc but she had to pay water electricity and community charge on top so it was working out about 750 euro a month - and she was working PR standing outside a bar encouraging folks to come in and have a drink. For that she worked 4 hours an evening and got 60 euro a night cash in hand. her boyfriend had similar work and got same sort of money so betwen them working 6 nights = 24hrs a week they were bringing in 720 euro a month. One weeks wages payed all the living costs and the rest was spare income. Now, she tells us, that is a very pleasant life to live in the sun!

So I think that can dispell the rumours of DJs in Gran Canaria getting 50 euro a night!

The same girl also told us to have a serious look at the property in Play Del Cura as she used to live there, it is where a lot of expats are living, especially ones working in the resorts, as it's very easy to travel to Puerto Rico or anywhere else on the island being on the main bus route from the capital, airport and all the resorts to the south end of the island.

So on the Tuesday evening we went to view the property in Playa Del Cura and found out the estate agent had another property there that had just come on the market so we viewed both. The first one was a 2 bedroom house again, but larger than the one in Puerto Rico, with a terrace, balcony and massive communal pool area. This one was really nice just 2 mins walk from the beach and not too much more money - and we would have taken it if we hadn't seen the last one! This was a big apartment, 2 bedrooms again with large balcony and also a very large outdoor terrace built into the cliffside. The place has stunning sea views and is fully furnished indoors and on the terrace. Only 38 apartment in the complex and it has a heated (in winter) pool It's also so private you could walk around naked all day and no one would bother you and the outdoor terrace would be big enough for a hot tub if we can find one second hand there!!. So.... we now have our apartment in Gran Canaria, 12 months rental, to see if enjoy the island life. If so we are gonna sell up and move in a year or maybe even less.

We never got to view the last three properties - we cancelled the appointments and they shouldn't have kept saying Manana Manana or we would have viewed, but we are really happy with the place we found

Oh I suppose this thread is worthless without some pics.... This is all our private space :)

Daryll
04-10-2016, 06:57 PM
ah.......Bognor regis . dont you just love it....:Laugh::Laugh:

dicky
04-10-2016, 10:19 PM
Ahh also didn't mention Stoke-on-Trent where we live now has one of the worse climates in England and Playa Del Cura (in the Tauro Valley) has officially the sunniest climate in Europe

Yet strangely enough a good frined of mine who lives in a 2 bedroom rental property down the road (we own our place) pays more in rental and utilities/council tax per month than we would pay in the place we want to move to........ go figure that one out

Spoke to a mate in London and we are paying less than half a rental down in his arrea (Putney)...... And that is just rent - without considering the fact we also get unlimited water, uinlimited eletricity, and our broadband internet is also included in the price - not to mention no council tax or for that matter VAT

So that will do for us. very very glad we went and researched this option. Let's see if the island life suits us