RCF Evox 8

[DJWilson]

Hi,

Has anyone got some and if so are they worth the ££?

They look great, decent levels and compact and light to handle.

Their active which I'm not usually a fan of but am currently tempted. Do RCF deal with all amp repairs or are there companies out there for that sort of thing?

Active set-ups are all new to me.

Thanks,
Nathan.

[Excalibur]

Hi,

Has anyone got some


Yes ( but not personally).


Hi,

and if so are they worth the ££?


No. :sofa:

OK, before the death threats appear, I'll be serious. ( But not for long, I think I'm developing a resistance to the tablets ).
Nathan, use the search facility. Coalville will come up if you search Evox, that's where a lot of us heard just about every " stick rig " on the market. My humble opinion was that the difference between the least and the greatest wasn't a vast gaping chasm by any means, and that basically they'll all do the same thing.

In my very humble opinion, the Evox ( 8 and 12 ) is the class of the field, along with the FBT equivalent. They'll definitely play to more punters than my beloved Maui 5s. Are they therefore better value than the Mauis?

No way. It's more than double the price of the Mauis, and doesn't offer me £1,000 worth of additional performance. Since I bought them, they have done all bar three of my gigs, and the only one they couldn't have done was for 250 people in a huge ballroom.

I know of a few people who have bought stick rigs merely for small gigs, and gone on to use them as first choice PA wherever possible. They aren't the answer to everything though. If you play every week to 200 18yr olds and need to pin them to the back wall with the sound pressure, but only work at a small wine bar for thirty folk at conversational levels once every three months, it's not the rig for you.

As a wide sweeping generalisation, under a hundred folk- stick rig. Over this, Speakers on tripods. It's in no way exact, but it is a guide.

Have a listen to

[yourdj]

I know a dozen people that have them and love them to bits.

It's what I would buy if I went fully active and I would not even listen to them first.
RCF are brilliant, but maybe worth comparing them side to side with the Versus? :)

BPM is soon worth waiting maybe and checking them out there.

[Excalibur]

I know a dozen people that have them and love them to bits.

It's what I would buy if I went fully active and I would not even listen to them first.
RCF are brilliant, but maybe worth comparing them side to side with the Versus? :)

BPM is soon worth waiting maybe and checking them out there.

Versus what, Toby? :confused: A pair of QTX cabs, maybe? :confused: Toby, it's a Vertus.:p

BPM, although good, isn't as useful as Coalville. The time frame may easily preclude this, sadly.

[DJColsie]

I have had mine about 6 months and have mixed views that are mainly very positive.

Positives

Good reviews from clients and more frequently venues.
Very convenient especially if you have the rock and roller cart.
Look good in website photos.
Reasonably loud and good bass (for the type of product).
Have used successfully for 150 people indoors with low ceiling with some headroom.
Due to array nature of drivers, sound carries louder further, so you don't need it as loud on the dancefloor to reach the back of the room.
Very clever DSP to "shape" the Sound.
Very resistant to feedback.

Negatives

Lack a smidgen of detail in the mids and highs (compared to my HD12a's).
If it is very loud on the dancefloor, it is still loud at the back of the room.

I still have a two box system, HDA12 over 900 series subs which is more detailed and far more dynamic but it is 3.2kw v 1.4kw so you would expect that.

Another thing that has surprised me is that I now consider taking the 4 box system out a faff and a lot of hassle as it increases the set up & break down time and takes up a lot of room. Also, although the 4 box system is technically better, Sound "truer" and more powerful and more expensive, it received less compliments!

[DJWilson]

I have had mine about 6 months and have mixed views that are mainly very positive.

Positives

Good reviews from clients and more frequently venues.
Very convenient especially if you have the rock and roller cart.
Look good in website photos.
Reasonably loud and good bass (for the type of product).
Have used successfully for 150 people indoors with low ceiling with some headroom.
Due to array nature of drivers, sound carries louder further, so you don't need it as loud on the dancefloor to reach the back of the room.
Very clever DSP to "shape" the Sound.
Very resistant to feedback.

Negatives

Lack a smidgen of detail in the mids and highs (compared to my HD12a's).
If it is very loud on the dancefloor, it is still loud at the back of the room.

I still have a two box system, HDA12 over 900 series subs which is more detailed and far more dynamic but it is 3.2kw v 1.4kw so you would expect that.

Another thing that has surprised me is that I now consider taking the 4 box system out a faff and a lot of hassle as it increases the set up & break down time and takes up a lot of room. Also, although the 4 box system is technically better, Sound "truer" and more powerful and more expensive, it received less compliments!

Thanks for that, it's very helpful!

There's a dealer nearby that said they'll set it up for us to have a listen one Saturday but it's good to hear the feedback in a real environment.

[rth_discos]

I love mine.

I also have a pair of Maui 5 which I use for background music. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable using the Maui 5 for the main gig - but it appears it's possible.

Yes, they lack the mid kick and can be a bit harsh in the top end, but they are so easy to cart around, look good, and exceed the sound of just speakers on a stand. To exceed the Evox 8, you'd need to rig up sub and speaker.

They, along with the CS1000 from FBT seem to be the speaker of choice at the moment. I would expect them to be easier to sell on after 2/3 years than something less well known - and they currently seem to hold their value well. So total cost of ownership should be quite low.

[Excalibur]

Negatives

Lack a smidgen of detail in the mids and highs (compared to my HD12a's).
That's a failing of many systems nowadays, seemingly. To quote a colleague, " All boom and ting "! When reps demo systems nowadays, they seem only to want to show how much bass they can achieve, not balance overall sound. Drives me up the wall.



Another thing that has surprised me is that I now consider taking the 4 box system out a faff and a lot of hassle as it increases the set up & break down time and takes up a lot of room. Also, although the 4 box system is technically better, Sound "truer" and more powerful and more expensive, it received less compliments!
That would seem to be roughly what most people say when they start using such rigs.


I love mine.

I also have a pair of Maui 5 which I use for background music. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable using the Maui 5 for the main gig - but it appears it's possible.
When I first got mine, I only expected to use them now and again. Instead, I'm using them almost exclusively. And since I often say " never say never ", it's a good bet that they won't be in use at either gig this weekend, cos at least one is in a big sports hall, so not the place for them.


Yes, they lack the mid kick and can be a bit harsh in the top end, but they are so easy to cart around, look good, and exceed the sound of just speakers on a stand.
I feel the positives there outweigh the negatives, by quite a way.



To exceed the Evox 8, you'd need to rig up sub and speaker.

They, along with the CS1000 from FBT seem to be the speaker of choice at the moment.
Perchance, not for long. I heard a 2.1 system tonight which stretches the term " stick rig " to the limit, but far exceeds what the Evox can do ( according to the rep, and from what we heard tonight, I wouldn't be at all surprised ) for a few hundred pounds less.

We also heard a much smaller one, which a colleague uses, and I can well see why he loves it. Very tidy, nice sound, and fairly portable.

And yet, both were beaten sound quality wise by a couple of cabs from the same manufacturer. An 8" top and 15" sub, with none of the electronic wizardry of the more expensive ones. Ye cannae change the laws of physics. :D

[Imagine]

I would expect them to be easier to sell on after 2/3 years than something less well known - and they currently seem to hold their value well. So total cost of ownership should be quite low.

OK - I'll play along ('cos I'm bored at this time of night in a wooden shed in mid Wales with tonight's wine quota finished and rain pounding onto the roof).....

I don't do stick rigs (or singing drainpipes as I like to call them...sorry to offend).I especially don't do FBT (mainly because they've become like a religion to some and it feels at times like they're being rammed down your throat at every opportunity!). Sorry - I know they look pretty but I've yet to be convinced they'll do the job I'd ask of them.

Yes - I know stick rigs (or arrays) project the sound across the venue, but working mainly on weddings my philosophy is to fill the dance floor with loud music, and let those around the perimeter chat and catch up with each other (because that's what generally happens) without being deafened. It works for me 99% of the time (apart from last Friday).

It's a well known fact that I like "proper" speakers (but then like Peter, I go back centuries and used to lug cabs bigger and heavier than my own body weight into upstairs function rooms...along with light screens and vinyl so it's just personal preference). I like to see a "proper" cab making the noise (HH Dual Concentrics anyone?), not a garden cane in a plant pot.

On the subject of value (or holding thereof), when did somebody last see anything from the Yamaha DXR range going cheaply second-hand?

I'll wager not very often if at all (I know I sold my DXS18 to a fellow forum member about a year ago...it was advertised on Facebook for all of about 30 seconds). They play nicely on a Rock 'n' Roller cart as well.

As Peter says, you cannae change the laws of physics. The stick systems are getting better, but there's really only so much power they can give out from such small cones.

As for BPM - the speaker demos to my mind are a waste of time. They "flatten" the output to make them all "equal", which in theory is a good thing. However, I'd much rather hear what they can do in a real-world demo if that makes sense. The Yammy's sounded completely pants at BPM last year. Running a combo of DXR8/DXS12 (my weapons of choice and 18 months since I purchased them my jaw still drops with the 12's on boosted bass) or a pair of DXR15's a couple of times a week depending on where I'm working, I know they'd knock the socks off pretty much any stick system out there, and for much more than 100 bodies.

Are they any more of a faff to set up? I really don't know because I've never set up a stick rig. How hard can it be to put a couple of 15" cabs on a hydraulic tripod or a couple of 8" cabs on satellite poles though? :daft:

[DJColsie]

Imagine

I agree with you and still have a four box system as well which I love.

I am just surprised how, in my experience, other people ( clients and venues ) seem to prefer the Evox.

As has been mentioned on another thread elsewhere, maybe one design doesn't fit all and it is a case of horses for courses.

[rth_discos]

Absolutely agree about the 4 box system (subs and tops) will sound better - law of physics and all that. The stick systems I do make a good job considering the physical limitations.

For the weddings I do, the Evox performs fine for me. It struggled at a large corporate event once, but that's the only time.

So I don't have a desire to upgrade to 4 speakers (takes more space in the van, larger to lug in), but appreciate that they will sound better.

This is the new kid on the block, coming in around £1,900 http://www.dbtechnologies.com/en/products/es/es1203-p3817.aspx

I'm sadly yet to hear it, but apparently 1 of these can out perform 2 x Evox 8.

So you may feel 1 of those is better value than 2 x Evox 8.

Personally, I'd feel nervous relying on one amp, so would want 2, which makes them quite expensive in comparison (but no doubt a very powerful sound system, yet still looking good).

[sweetie]

I've the maui 5 and the Evox 12, sold off my RCF hd12s and 712s when I got great offers for them.
They are both good systems and sound good to me. Plenty of bass and good dispersion without overpowering
the dancefloor. I've noticed a few times the people at the bar dancing, the sound is obviously much better there than with traditional systems. Most importantly they look good and venues and clients have noticed which gives me an advantage (along with my booth) over the traditional table and two tops djs in my field over here.

[Excalibur]

This is the new kid on the block, coming in around £1,900 http://www.dbtechnologies.com/en/products/es/es1203-p3817.aspx

I'm sadly yet to hear it, but apparently 1 of these can out perform 2 x Evox 8.
I did hear it last night, and as I said above, I'm inclined to believe it would. Would I buy one? No. The sub has two 12" drivers in, and although it's a one hand carry,( due mainly to its shape, it's tall and narrow ) it's not a featherweight.

To address some of what Wayne said above, it seems a curious way to achieve quality sound by increasing the size of the subs up to 2x12" or more, and a plethora of 3" drivers on a pole above it. To my old ( fashioned ) ears, ( and bear in mind I use my Mauis most weeks, and love them ) the best sound last night came from a £150 8" top over a conventional sub. Two of these tops and one sub cost half what the 1203 does.

If the Mauis hadn't come along for me when they did, my rig of choice was going to be two cheap 12" subs, and two 8" or 10" tops of as high quality as I could afford. Unsurprisingly, not a million miles away from the one Wayne uses and loves.


So you may feel 1 of those is better value than 2 x Evox 8.
Now that's debatable, because.................................



Personally, I'd feel nervous relying on one amp, so would want 2, which makes them quite expensive in comparison (but no doubt a very powerful sound system, yet still looking good).
of exactly the reasoning Gavin gives. The same thought was the first thing which came into my mind when I realised all the amps were in one box.
The second thing was that you needed two full systems, or at the very least a spare sub if it's possible to buy one separately, and that's a fairly pointless exercise.
The third thought was that at that point, you'd have parted with nearly four thousand pounds, and for that sort of money you'd have an overwhelming choice of kit, and lots of change if you'd bought a pair of Maui 5s and a good grade set of subs and tops.

A pair of 1203 rigs would indeed give incredible versatility, and possibly a bit more than one small stick rig and a pair of subs and tops. It would also win aesthetically. Still don't think it's an overwhelming argument to buy a pair though.

[Jim - Scotland's Party DJ]

When you start getting to those kind of prices I'd be going for Bose all day long. The only thing stopping me getting a pair is that I mount my lights on the poles so unfortunately I need a pair of "singing drainpipes" :D

[yourdj]

I am just surprised how, in my experience, other people ( clients and venues ) seem to prefer the Evox.

I love it when the US and other UK (MC type) guys that say kit does not matter (especially lighting).
Its amazing what people notice and the overall opinion they cast of you based on the equipment you have.

Managers always comment when i get something new. :)

I think out of all the drainpipes the bose look the most stunning.

[Jim - Scotland's Party DJ]

I love it when the US and other UK (MC type) guys that say kit does not matter (especially lighting).
Its amazing what people notice and the overall opinion they cast of you based on the equipment you have.

Managers always comment when i get something new. :)

I think out of all the drainpipes the bose look the most stunning.

Of course it matters. I've got a reasonably small rig lighting wise but it's DMX'd well and really got an impact visually compared to folk going out with trussing and booths up the wahoo and there's plenty of times co-ordinators / supervisors at venues want my card before I've played a tune.

I'm trying something new on Saturday actually lighting wise and it's going to look great.

[DJWilson]

Got a demo arranged for them with a nearby dealer tomorrow morning.

I'll let you know what I think upon my return!

[Excalibur]

Got a demo arranged for them with a nearby dealer tomorrow morning.

I'll let you know what I think upon my return!
Evox? Maui? dB1203? Which one, Nathan? :)

PS, on a serious note, I'd advise against having a smaller stick rig as your main/only PA. Big boxes on tripods all weekend for me, first time in ages, some gigs/venues need them. I'd recommend having a pair of cheap active fifteens in the shed somewhere, even if you run to Evox12, or the big dB rig.

[DJWilson]

Evox? Maui? dB1203? Which one, Nathan? :)

PS, on a serious note, I'd advise against having a smaller stick rig as your main/only PA. Big boxes on tripods all weekend for me, first time in ages, some gigs/venues need them. I'd recommend having a pair of cheap active fifteens in the shed somewhere, even if you run to Evox12, or the big dB rig.

My bad, Exov 8! aha.

I personally still like the idea of a full range speaker on a stand. Tried and tested over many years/gigs. A lot cheaper too!

I may be converted tomorrow but at the moment the price, amp back-up (not sure if you can buy them on their own yet) and not being ideal for 18th/21st birthday's is stopping me.

[Shaun]

I recall Mark Wild buying the Evox 8 and being underwhelmed. He sold and upgraded to the Evox 12 and loves them.

[ppentertainments]

I recall Mark Wild buying the Evox 8 and being underwhelmed. He sold and upgraded to the Evox 12 and loves them.
I agree with that thought (although I keep getting told I am in the minority).

The evox 8 are great and my 'go to' speaker system mainly because they are so easy to handle. They sound fantastic, just run out of steam far too early in my opinion.

The vertus is a lot louder, but not nearly as easy as the evox, nor as nice sounding (although that is personal view).

If you are looking to go down the one speaker route, or do a lot of 18/21 etc I would avoid the evox as they will be too underpowered. If however your priority is ease of handling and the visual appeal, the evox scores really high in this and, in my opinion, is superior to the vertus.

I have to say though, unless the visual appeal is necessary for you, I would avoid any of the drainpipe style speakers. Couple of subs with 12" tops beat them hands down.

[DJWilson]

Had a listen to the Evox 8 and FBT CS1000 this morning.

CS1000 sounded much better. Granted, they don't look as good but the secure connection and option to angle the tops outweighs that. Plus their slightly louder.

Looking like a sale for the FBT at the moment.

[Excalibur]

Looking like a sale for the FBT at the moment.

Or you could save £750, and buy a dB1203, which would blow the FBT out of the park. :)

That's a bit mischievous, actually, as I don't know when it will be available.

[rth_discos]

I tried something different with my Evox 8 on Friday night...

I put both subs underneath the booth next to each out, with the tops on speaker stands either side.

WOW! What a difference. The bass travels forward much better - sounds far better on the dancefloor, and further back in the room - and is less bassy in the DJ position.

I'm guessing being 6ft apart either side of a booth is a bad position for the subs - and I've heard coupling them together makes them louder, but I didn't realise how much fuller it would make the sound. I actually had to pull back the bass more, so it'll give me much more headroom on the speakers going forward.

[ppentertainments]

I tried something different with my Evox 8 on Friday night...

I put both subs underneath the booth next to each out, with the tops on speaker stands either side.

WOW! What a difference. The bass travels forward much better - sounds far better on the dancefloor, and further back in the room - and is less bassy in the DJ position.

I'm guessing being 6ft apart either side of a booth is a bad position for the subs - and I've heard coupling them together makes them louder, but I didn't realise how much fuller it would make the sound. I actually had to pull back the bass more, so it'll give me much more headroom on the speakers going forward.
I used my evox with 2 vertus subs last night - that did sound nice :)

[DJColsie]

When I used mine for a prom I added a 900 series sub under the stage.

[Excalibur]

I used my evox with 2 vertus subs last night - that did sound nice :)


When I used mine for a prom I added a 900 series sub under the stage.

Well I've never felt the need to augment the Maui 5s with bits of other systems, although when I used them for a audience of 500 at a football stadium, I did have a 7k line array as infill. :p:D:D

Seriously, I can't see how adding subs to mine would help, as I've got my subs turned a long way down. If I wanted more, I'd just turn them up. If I wanted louder, I'd use a bigger system, simples. Horses for courses.

[Benny Smyth]

CS1000>Evox 8.

That's coming from a guy who spent about a year researching and listening to compact systems.

The CS1000s are now my bread and butter speakers, with the RCF 905/712 combo coming out when I need more oomph ( one of those technical phrases, that!).

[ppentertainments]

Well I've never felt the need to augment the Maui 5s with bits of other systems, although when I used them for a audience of 500 at a football stadium, I did have a 7k line array as infill. :p:D:D

Seriously, I can't see how adding subs to mine would help, as I've got my subs turned a long way down. If I wanted more, I'd just turn them up. If I wanted louder, I'd use a bigger system, simples. Horses for courses.
Visual appeal - all they see are a couple of puny sticks for speakers, what they hear is awesome and Auntie Doris sitting at the back doesn't have huge speakers to complain about :D:D

[Excalibur]

when I need more oomph ( one of those technical phrases, that!).
Presumably it's different to Watts or Power then, as you can't hear Watts. I assume you can hear Oomph.:confused::confused:


Visual appeal - all they see are a couple of puny sticks for speakers, what they hear is awesome and Auntie Doris sitting at the back doesn't have huge speakers to complain about :D:D

Now I do of course appreciate exactly where you're coming from Chris. On Saturday I had the 15" cabs out on tripods, and while on Friday they looked the part, and fitted the venue and function exactly, on Saturday they looked complete overkill. They ran at exactly the same volume the Mauis would have, but they didn't look right to me.

[rth_discos]

I agree with that thought (although I keep getting told I am in the minority).


For what they are (effectively, no bigger than a 15" top), I'd much rather the Evox over a a pair of 15" cabs.

Will a sub and top outdo it - of course - but that changes the game!

I wanted a system I could carry in easily - and the Evox does that.

Am I overwhelmed by the sound? I'm fairly impressed - it sound decent.

So I'm probably in the same camp as you and Mark. Would I upgrade to a Evox 12 - no. It's too big. I might as well take in some subs and a top at that point (or actually, now that DB system would be a better choice than an Evox 12). But still far heavier than the Evox 8 - and I have to remind myself of the reason I bought the Evox 8!

[Excalibur]

For what they are (effectively, no bigger than a 15" top), I'd much rather the Evox over a a pair of 15" cabs.

Will a sub and top outdo it - of course - but that changes the game!

I wanted a system I could carry in easily - and the Evox does that.



That's the dilemma. Effectively you're balancing portability, small size and aesthetics against outright performance, large size and weight, and a less pleasing appearance.

And no, there isn't one in the middle which gives the performance we all crave from a rig we carry in under one arm. :(

[Nakatomi]

That's the dilemma. Effectively you're balancing portability, small size and aesthetics against outright performance, large size and weight, and a less pleasing appearance.

And no, there isn't one in the middle which gives the performance we all crave from a rig we carry in under one arm. :(

Yes, and skyhooks for all the lights, which are all invisible to the naked eye except of course for the effects they create :D

[Casual77]

I've taken to using the 10" subs from my dB Technologies ES-602 systems coupled with a pair of dB Technologies B-Hype 8s as tops. I've only used them together for a couple of gigs but so far they certainly seem reasonable for small/medium venues and are very portable. Aesthetically they look as if they are meant to go together because they have the same front grilles.

Having said that, I think at some point I will swap the B-Hype 8s for some other 8" tops that are a bit more powerful. I'd still like a pair of Yamaha DXR8s ideally, but the RCF 718A Mk4s would probably suffice and be a cheaper option.

[DJWilson]

Heading back to the dealer tomorrow to listen to a pair of CS1000's rather than a single side.

Also arranged for some Martin Audio F15s

[Imagine]

Heading back to the dealer tomorrow to listen to a pair of CS1000's rather than a single side.

Also arranged for some Martin Audio F15s

So Nathan....how did you get on?

I'm in somewhat of a quandry myself at the moment and I'm off to listen to several systems on Friday (namely Evox12, dB ES1203 and CS1000).

I know, I've always said I'm not a massive fan of stick systems and that hasn't changed (after all...ye cannae change the laws of physics).....BUT.....

I'm now doing a lot of high end weddings in long barns (as in the function room is over 100ft in length). Yes, the DXR15s cover that with ease, but they're big blighters and don't exactly look elegant when they're up in the air., especially when the B&G/B&B/G&G have spent £0000's decorating the place. I make an announcement at the booth and those at the back don't necessarily pick up on it.

My beloved DXS12/DXR8 system punches well above its weight and it's always been my weapon of choice, but these barns tend to be lined with drapes like a marquee. So what sounds hellishly loud at the booth very quickly tapers down to nothing as you move away from the rig.

So I need an array system to push the sound just that little bit more evenly and reliably without deafening me at the wheels of steel. It also needs to look the part for a wedding as opposed to huge boxes on tripods.

I'm going to listen to all three. However (and I hate myself for saying this....I really, really do because I feel like this particular system has been forced down peoples throats like some sort of political agenda), I'm probably likely to come home with the CS1000s. The Evox12s are heavy blighters and the dB ES1203 relies, as already mentioned, on a single amp which scares me.

I was contemplating the eagerly awaited EV Evolve 50 system...until it was properly unveiled this evening. I haven't heard it, but the specs vs the price disappoint to be honest.

We'll see what Friday brings.....

[Jim - Scotland's Party DJ]

Bose not an option?

[Imagine]

Sadly not at the dealer in question.

I did think of them, and have to admit they are the "prettier" of the stick rigs, but then remember the number of people that were selling them en-masse around 18 months ago for some reason.

[Excalibur]

Wireless infill?

[DJWilson]

Hi,

After much thought and many various systems tested out we ended up going with a pair of RCF ART715A's. After hearing the Evox 8 we wasn't interested in hearing any more RCF, but glad we did!

These sound just as good as the FBT CS1000's but for half the price and only a minor difference in RMS. (We've got plenty of headroom with these for the size of venues/gigs we'll be doing locally).

[Imagine]

Swings and roundabouts then.

You've gone for traditional cabs.....I meanwhile have a brace of Maui 28s arriving tomorrow (I have it on good authority from an old geezer that at least a couple of fellow forum members love them to bits). And at about half the price of the CS1000, I'm a happy bunny :)

In fact, if I get on alright with them, there'll be a white set turning up and a potential clear-out of Yamaha cabs in the near future

[rth_discos]

I have a pair of Maui 5. Considering the relatively "low spec" on them, they sound pretty amazing.

So I can only imagine what the 28's sound like!

[Pe7e]

I used to think the 'singing drainpipes' were a joke, that is until I bought a LD Maui 28 mix (on a respected forum members reccomendation) to fill a gap in my inventory, to be honest I was blown away by its performance and versatility, I very much doubt you will be disappointed. If anyone has one in excellent condition for sale, I'm interested in buying.

[Imagine]

I used to think the 'singing drainpipes' were a joke, that is until I bought a LD Maui 28 mix (on a respected forum members reccomendation) to fill a gap in my inventory, to be honest I was blown away by its performance and versatility, I very much doubt you will be disappointed. If anyone has one in excellent condition for sale, I'm interested in buying.

Probably the same respected member that talked me into them then ;) (and one that I appear to owe several gallons of beer). I'm sure he's on commission with LD and DB!

I've got the G2s turning up tomorrow (the later model). They should get a very good test at both ends of the spectrum this weekend. Saturday is a wedding vow renewal and mostly older stuff.

I've just got the playlist for Sunday......how good are these babies going to be with the likes of the Prodigy? :)

[Steven]

You will love the G2.

Top tip is run both sides from your mixer into one side, then out of that one into the other. Then bluetooth your backup device to the first side, that way if your mixer ever broke you can just carry on playing and it will come out of both speakers :-D

Also you can plug a backup mic into the first side too and again it will come out of both speakers.

Lovely things they are.

[Imagine]

You will love the G2.

Top tip is run both sides from your mixer into one side, then out of that one into the other. Then bluetooth your backup device to the first side, that way if your mixer ever broke you can just carry on playing and it will come out of both speakers :-D

Also you can plug a backup mic into the first side too and again it will come out of both speakers.

Lovely things they are.

Funnily enough - the redundancy factor was one of the many reasons for getting them. I normally run two separate mixers into a Beringer box and then out to the PA which at times is a compete faff with the number of cables to connect etc.....and even then the Behringer box is a weak point. These just seem to be win-win on a lot of scores at the moment :)

[Steven]

well hopefully you can save yourself 10 minutes of cabling every gig as well then.

I'm always torn whether to use these or the Evox 8s.

These look slightly better, have better functionality and get more comments.

but the evox go a little louder, are stupidly quick to put up and down and transport.

I'm half tempted to swap the black evox 8s to a black g2 and remove the possibility

[Imagine]

They've just arrived.

They're INSANE!!!!!!!!

:DJ::DJ::DJ:

[Imagine]

OK - the destruction manual is, well......brief and concise to say the least :o

Steve/Pe7e - I know you own these beasts. What settings do you normally run them at (i.e. line-in at 12 'o' clock, sub/top on max)?

[Steven]

Glad you like them!

I normally have the sub and top almost full then use the line in and bluetooth level to get them about even.

i normally have them on about 12 o clock and turn that up/down as needs be.

lets have a pic of you next to them then. They are very tall!

[Imagine]

Glad you like them!

I normally have the sub and top almost full then use the line in and bluetooth level to get them about even.

i normally have them on about 12 o clock and turn that up/down as needs be.

lets have a pic of you next to them then. They are very tall!

That's what I sort of assumed. I'll then control everything from the mixer like I do with the Yammys. They sound as sweet as a nut - can't believe quite how much punch they've got at the lower end :o

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[Steven]

That's what I sort of assumed. I'll then control everything from the mixer like I do with the Yammys. They sound as sweet as a nut - can't believe quite how much punch they've got at the lower end :o

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That'll keep the kids off the fridge

[Excalibur]

I used to think the 'singing drainpipes' were a joke, that is until I bought a LD Maui 28 mix (on a respected forum members reccomendation)


Probably the same respected member that talked me into them then ;) (and one that I appear to owe several gallons of beer). I'm sure he's on commission with LD and DB!


I seem to recollect being involved, but in the interests of balance " other respected forum members are available ".

It was the hairy one I recommended you speak to. :D

[yourdj]

That'll keep the kids off the fridge

Man everyone seems to be using these at the moment. RCF must be well happy with that result.
My RCF 310's were amazing over the years so they deserve it. :)

[Imagine]

Man everyone seems to be using these at the moment. RCF must be well happy with that result.
My RCF 310's were amazing over the years so they deserve it. :)

Erm - mine are LD's - not RCF :o

[Imagine]

I seem to recollect being involved, but in the interests of balance " other respected forum members are available ".

It was the hairy one I recommended you speak to. :D

It was indeed - but he's been a bit busy being a TV star this week ;). (Really made up for you on that one by the way Steve).

BTW - I've just found out something really useful with these things. It would appear you can take the middle section out and just run on subs and the top section.....really handy for those venues which are an inch or so shorter than the full column :)

[Excalibur]

Man everyone seems to be using these at the moment. RCF must be well happy with that result.
My RCF 310's were amazing over the years so they deserve it. :)


Erm - mine are LD's - not RCF :o

Erm, much as I hate to defend Toby, he is quoting Steven, who not only has Maui 28s, but also Evox 8s, so technically I feel he's correct for once.

Re lowering the columns, just check the sound after. On the 5s I reckoned it degraded it if they were too low.

[Imagine]

Erm, much as I hate to defend Toby, he is quoting Steven, who not only has Maui 28s, but also Evox 8s, so technically I feel he's correct for once.

Re lowering the columns, just check the sound after. On the 5s I reckoned it degraded it if they were too low.

It also cuts out a column of mids. However, there's a couple of particular venues round these 'ere parts (lined like marquees and with funny shaped ceilings on them) where you stand on a stage so the top column is still above the heads of the assembled ravers :)

[Excalibur]

It also cuts out a column of mids.
Not on the 5s it doesn't. I haven't got any mids. :cry::cry:



However, there's a couple of particular venues round these 'ere parts (lined like marquees and with funny shaped ceilings on them) where you stand on a stage so the top column is still above the heads of the assembled ravers :)
Correctamundo. Seems to me the main aim is to get the HF units as high as possible, much like we did with boxes on tripods.

[yourdj]

so technically I feel he's correct for once.

No i am not, I am clearly blind. :)

[Imagine]

Well, I took the Maui 28s out for their maiden voyage this evening.

AWESOME!!! bit of kit. I never thought I'd be a singing drainpipe hugger....but....

OK - they're never going to be the ground shaking loud and shouty replacement for proper 15" cabs and 18" subs, but for the majority of parties I do, they'll be more than enough with a lot more headroom to spare.

A weird experience though....although the music was a nice volume for dancing (I didn't actually measure the number of decibels on the dance floor but it sounded plenty loud enough to me), people were still able to talk and hear each other.....how in the name of all that's holy does that work? :o

I couldn't clip them either! Normally with the Yammy's (especially the DXR15s), I run the output from the mixer flat. Turning the bass knob even just a fraction has a nasty habit of bringing on the red clipping light (although that could be down to the onboard DSP in them). The Maui's didn't complain in the slightest. Even better, you can hear the same sounds at the booth that they hear on the dance floor instead of the muffled version we normally get behind the speakers - I certainly don't need to lug a monitor in anymore!

Back to the DXR15s tomorrow as in a large venue which warrants a lot of loudness (especially with the playlist I'm up against), but I can see the Maui's being the new weapon of choice for most gigs I do from now on :)

[ppentertainments]

Going back to the original discussion on the Evox 8 I am rapidly growing out of favour with mine - if they weren't so bloody easy to handle.

I still find they run out of steam far too early and marquees especially they are underpowered. I can use a pair of mackies, bose L1, or dare I say vertus and they are just ticking over, but the RCF I have to make work for their money. Someone did tell me once though that RCFs are designed to be driven hard.

[rth_discos]

Going back to the original discussion on the Evox 8 I am rapidly growing out of favour with mine - if they weren't so bloody easy to handle.


I can't imagine any other stick system can cope any better? Apart from the new DB thingy, but that's a different beast all together!

I remember when everyone had the original Vertus. I didn't get to use one until 2016, and was massively disappointed with its sound.

Have you tried putting both subs together under the booth? That gives some more volume.

But otherwise, you're at the mercy of the limitation of small systems.

For me, I only do weddings, so I only need to cover the dancefloor. I don't need to fill the whole marquee at club level sound, so they work perfectly.

If I needed to do larger gigs or fill a whole marquee, then I've been looking at a decent sub/tops packages.

[Excalibur]

But otherwise, you're at the mercy of the limitation of small systems.


Correctamundo. So far I haven't found my Maui 5s to be too small for anything I've asked them to do. If I need to make more noise than they can provide, it's bigger box time.

I wouldn't try to break reinforced concrete with a toffee hammer, but I can crack walnuts with a Kango. ;)

[yourdj]

Going back to the original discussion on the Evox 8 I am rapidly growing out of favour with mine - if they weren't so bloody easy to handle.

I still find they run out of steam far too early and marquees especially they are underpowered. I can use a pair of mackies, bose L1, or dare I say vertus and they are just ticking over, but the RCF I have to make work for their money. Someone did tell me once though that RCFs are designed to be driven hard.


i have two array type tops and use a DXR15 for anything over the 150 figure or in a marquee. The sound is the same all round the room (well sort of), which makes them ideal for smaller weddings. Anything larger then having some form of directional speaker system is a good idea. I always have a DBR12 in the booth at all times for more directional sound on the dance floor area. The columns fill in the gaps for larger functions. :)

Yes the DXR's always clip, I noticed that, but only when run hard. My DBR's don't seem too but they are a newer speaker. :)

[ppentertainments]

I can't imagine any other stick system can cope any better? Apart from the new DB thingy, but that's a different beast all together!
Both the Vertus and Bose are miles ahead, especially with volume - but just not as handy, suppose you can't have everything ;)

[DJWilson]

I can't imagine any other stick system can cope any better? Apart from the new DB thingy, but that's a different beast all together!
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FBT CS1000's all day over the Evox 8s

[Sapphire Disco]

I'm wondering if I could use a pair of these with my Evox8 subs do you think it would sound any better ?

http://www.fbtaudio.co.uk/product/Ventis-20618405

[rth_discos]

I'm wondering if I could use a pair of these with my Evox8 subs do you think it would sound any better ?



I never get a definitive answer as to whether it's safe to run the Evox 8 without the tops attached.

[Sapphire Disco]

I never get a definitive answer as to whether it's safe to run the Evox 8 without the tops attached.
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The ones I have shown are passive FBT so would link up with subs just wondered about using them instead of the Evox ones

[Steven]

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The ones I have shown are passive FBT so would link up with subs just wondered about using them instead of the Evox ones

The Amp in the RCF Evox 8 will be built with the tops for the evox 8 in mind, not another speaker. In theory you could but you will still only get x out of the amp so may even sound worse.