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iainmc
01-02-2007, 09:14 AM
Anyone fancy some of these?


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-Exclusive-to-the-UK-Moving-Head-Par-64-Dmx_W0QQitemZ220076857336QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14984Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Paul James Promotions
01-02-2007, 09:17 AM
For £100 each, maybe.

For the list price, you could get a Mac 250 Wash!

sleah
01-02-2007, 10:43 AM
Kit looks OK. I'd say ACME as the design is very similar to my Stairville movers. The only odd thing is the fans on the head :confused:
PARs don't need cooling, they would just increase noise and intake of crap and fag smoke!

The prices quoted are clearly a fabrication!

The seller stinks of being another Hong Kong importer pretending to be from the UK, despite what is in the description.

Item Location: EBAY, United Kingdom :bang: :bang: :bang:

The description is full of meaningless nonsense, too rubish to be even put down to poor translation.

Look forward to seeing them from a more convincing supplier:rolleyes:

gillo
01-02-2007, 04:52 PM
Kit looks OK. I'd say ACME as the design is very similar to my Stairville movers. The only odd thing is the fans on the head :confused:
PARs don't need cooling, they would just increase noise and intake of crap and fag smoke!

The prices quoted are clearly a fabrication!

The seller stinks of being another Hong Kong importer pretending to be from the UK, despite what is in the description.

Item Location: EBAY, United Kingdom :bang: :bang: :bang:

The description is full of meaningless nonsense, too rubish to be even put down to poor translation.

Look forward to seeing them from a more convincing supplier:rolleyes:

bit on the heavy side 30 kg:eek:

DMX Will
01-02-2007, 07:20 PM
Looks interesting, can't see the quality of the pan/tilt would be any good due to lack of channels to control it.

sleah
02-02-2007, 09:35 AM
Looks interesting, can't see the quality of the pan/tilt would be any good due to lack of channels to control it.

How do you mean Will??? :confused:
If it's 5 ch then the table show X/Y & speed control for each (for desk without) and if it's 3 ch then it'll be dimmer / X /Y.

The X / Y seems pretty standard! I think you will only get indexing on something stupidly expensive, which this clearly isn't :D

DMX Will
03-02-2007, 10:23 AM
How do you mean Will??? :confused:
If it's 5 ch then the table show X/Y & speed control for each (for desk without) and if it's 3 ch then it'll be dimmer / X /Y.

The X / Y seems pretty standard! I think you will only get indexing on something stupidly expensive, which this clearly isn't :D

If its only 3 channels (dimmer/pan/tilt) I would imagine your only going to get an 8 bit resolution using the fader, if its 5 channels (which the picture implies, but the text doesn't) then hopefully it would have a 16 bit resolution (dimmer/pan/tilt/pan/tilt).

Obviously these are only gueses as I won't read it again but I don't think the description was that great.

sleah
03-02-2007, 03:50 PM
If its only 3 channels (dimmer/pan/tilt) I would imagine your only going to get an 8 bit resolution using the fader, if its 5 channels (which the picture implies, but the text doesn't) then hopefully it would have a 16 bit resolution (dimmer/pan/tilt/pan/tilt).


I follow now. I don't think that it would be even if it's 5 ch.
Assuming it's 5 for a moment.......
It may be like my 812 roboscans, the 2 extra channels control the speed at which x/y move, rather than a fine control (giving 16bit).
The idea is for simple desks that don't have anyform of cross fade or speed adjustment, i.e. quick change of state on a clock or music trigger. Then the extra channels allow a slower movement. Looks awful when the clock speed is faster than the mirrors can move!
The odd thing is, you would normally only have 1 ch for x/y speed and the other would be gobo/colour change speed, which aren't present on this PAR device.

Very confusing :confused:

DMX Will
03-02-2007, 08:49 PM
I follow now. I don't think that it would be even if it's 5 ch.
Assuming it's 5 for a moment.......
It may be like my 812 roboscans, the 2 extra channels control the speed at which x/y move, rather than a fine control (giving 16bit).
The idea is for simple desks that don't have anyform of cross fade or speed adjustment, i.e. quick change of state on a clock or music trigger. Then the extra channels allow a slower movement. Looks awful when the clock speed is faster than the mirrors can move!
The odd thing is, you would normally only have 1 ch for x/y speed and the other would be gobo/colour change speed, which aren't present on this PAR device.

Very confusing :confused:

I think it just sums up the probable quality of the fixture!