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LastMinuteDJs.net
09-02-2007, 02:08 AM
Anyone who's ordered from Thomann - does equipment come with a UK 3 pin plug on it or a European 2 pin.

Was looking to buy a few of the Stairville Moving Heads but while doing my research saw a few websites actively discouraging the use of Thomann because they sell stuff with the European plugs to UK customers, which is allegedly illegal....

Vibrant Sounds
09-02-2007, 05:49 AM
Anyone who's ordered from Thomann - does equipment come with a UK 3 pin plug on it or a European 2 pin.

Was looking to buy a few of the Stairville Moving Heads but while doing my research saw a few websites actively discouraging the use of Thomann because they sell stuff with the European plugs to UK customers, which is allegedly illegal....

Not sure about the illeagal bit, but yes, goods from Thomann do come with a European plug.

90% of those items have an IEC socket and you just replace the lead. On those items that do not have a IEC socket, I cut off the europlug and fit an inline IEC socket.

DMX Will
09-02-2007, 11:13 AM
I don't know if they do or don't. However I wouldn't stress about it as a 13A plug is cheap enough, and the wiring isnt hard.

If it is illegal, it won't affect you, and I would have thought they'd have been hunted down by now.

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Anyone who's ordered from Thomann - does equipment come with a UK 3 pin plug on it or a European 2 pin.

Was looking to buy a few of the Stairville Moving Heads but while doing my research saw a few websites actively discouraging the use of Thomann because they sell stuff with the European plugs to UK customers, which is allegedly illegal....

It depends what you're buying.

All the Stairville (Isolution type) lighting has separate plugs anyway i think, eg: you can just use a normal iec to uk plug.

Dragonfly
09-02-2007, 12:10 PM
stuff from thomman does come with a european 2 pin plug ......still a very embarassing subject with me.....

but daz is right the i show i move stuff has separate cables so you can just get new cables with 3 pin plugs etc.

Jiggles
09-02-2007, 12:11 PM
stuff from thomman does come with a european 2 pin plug ......still a very embarassing subject with me.....




So how are yous to getting on :D:D has it come in handy :D :D

Dragonfly
09-02-2007, 12:13 PM
callum dont make me use the fish !!!!!!

Stephen_N.I.
09-02-2007, 12:13 PM
I can't see it being illegal.
The last light I order was a two pin, just switched it over till 3 pin UK and bingo, it worked.

Corabar Entertainment
09-02-2007, 12:22 PM
I wonder if the 'illegal' aspect has come about from the fact that all appliances sold in the UK are supposed to have a moulded plug on them..... However, the stuff from Thomann isn't actually being sold in the UK is it? We are choosing to buy from abroad..... which is very different! :)

Jiggles
09-02-2007, 12:22 PM
callum dont make me use the fish !!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:




Double ended wire :D

Woodyo
09-02-2007, 01:06 PM
As far as I'm aware the kit from Germany is all fine and I have never had any problems , but I would not recommend cutting the 2 pin plug off any units and replacing it with a uk style 3 pin plug as this will most likely invalidate the warranty. Snap in converter plugs are readily available , RS Components do them and I have seen them on ebay a time or two.

LastMinuteDJs.net
09-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Not sure about the illeagal bit, but yes, goods from Thomann do come with a European plug.

90% of those items have an IEC socket and you just replace the lead. On those items that do not have a IEC socket, I cut off the europlug and fit an inline IEC socket.

Haha - totally never thought that it's just a case of swapping the cable, not rewiring the plug. As simple as it would have been, its still effort. Wouldn't have stopped me buying though.


I wonder if the 'illegal' aspect has come about from the fact that all appliances sold in the UK are supposed to have a moulded plug on them..... However, the stuff from Thomann isn't actually being sold in the UK is it? We are choosing to buy from abroad..... which is very different! :)

Think thats correct with the illegal aspect. I know Thomann is abroad but they actively sell and distribute to the UK. Think that law was changed recently to include any EU companies that distribute to the UK.

Wouldn't stop me buying - still a very good place to shop, just thought i'd ask about it.

sleah
09-02-2007, 03:09 PM
Anyone who's ordered from Thomann - does equipment come with a UK 3 pin plug on it or a European 2 pin.

Was looking to buy a few of the Stairville Moving Heads but while doing my research saw a few websites actively discouraging the use of Thomann because they sell stuff with the European plugs to UK customers, which is allegedly illegal....


From experience.... Yes, anything from Thomann with a lead will have a europlug on it.
The Stairville heads do not have a moulded lead :D

The law probably would not apply as it for domestic appliances. You notice on most disco gear it says "For professional use only" or similar. This gets round the domestic problem, because it's assumed that someone buying that type of kit will have a resonable knowledge of electrics, enough to wire plugs and not kill themselves anyway:eek:
Disco gear is now in a grey area as it is cheap and easily available to any member of Joe puplic, so that's why some kit has attached leads.
:soapbox: attached leads.... which is why pro gear has detachable.
Pro gear is likely to be 'used' so there is a greater risk of the cable becoming damaged and worn out and will need replacing. So all you do is get another lead. simple!
Of course is much safer if when a fixed cable appliance has a damaged cable, that the owner opens it up, trys to replace the cable with something unsuitable and it potentially becomes unsafe, so much safer than the unit never being tampered with and replacing the cable with another off the shelf one.:rolleyes:
Just proves that these numpties that make up EU regs no nothin about anythin:(

DO NOT get me started about fire extinquishers, no, really, DON'T :mad:

Corabar Steve
09-02-2007, 03:42 PM
:soapbox: attached leads.... which is why pro gear has detachable.

Are Denon DN 4000 CD players & Yamaha P5000s amps domestic kit then? :d:d:d

Solitaire Events Ltd
09-02-2007, 03:50 PM
Are Denon DN 4000 CD players & Yamaha P5000s amps domestic kit then? :d:d:d

Yep.:D

Corabar Steve
09-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Bog off! http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/the_finger.gifhttp://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gifhttp://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/tongue.gif

Dragonfly
09-02-2007, 04:19 PM
what as well as being domestic kit theyre Buy One Get One Free as well ?????

:D :D :D :D :D

Corabar Steve
09-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Possibly, I 've got 2 of each. Can't remember how much we paid though http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/shmmm.gif

sleah
09-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Are Denon DN 4000 CD players & Yamaha P5000s amps domestic kit then? :d:d:d

Ha! Trying to be smart eh? :D :D

Well, of course they're less likely to be damaged than a light because any sensible DJ would have them in a rack
:ner:

Corabar Steve
09-02-2007, 05:48 PM
Well, of course they're less likely to be damaged than a light because any sensible DJ would have them in a rack
:ner:
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sleah
09-02-2007, 05:50 PM
That's The One!!!!!