Worst things you've seen on mobile disco websites?

[rob1963]

What are the WORST things you've seen on mobile disco websites?

Here are my top 5:

1) Home-made, one page "Geocities" type sites. These look really tacky, and (as they are free) are usually covered in advertising.

2) Sites where you key in the URL and are then taken to a "holding" page, so you have to click "enter" to get to the home page. I can't see the purpose of these "holding" pages, which just appear to be a complete waste of time.

3) Sites which are made with flash & take about 6 months to load! Ok, maybe 30 seconds to a minute (with broadband), but there is no way I would wait this long for a site to load...and I can't be the only one!

4) Sites which start playing music as soon as you get to their homepage. I find this really annoying. The music is often just a few bars on a loop. In many cases there isn't even a button to turn it off.

5) Sites which have a page that gives a text listing of all the equipment they use. This is completely MEANINGLESS to clients, and also even to DJs - unless they use or have used / seen the equipment in question!

I apologise to any MDD forum members who have the above things on their sites. Don't take offense...they are just things which I personally don't like! :D

[Ricesnaps]

I apologise to any MDD forum members who have the above things on their sites. Don't take offense...they are just things which I personally don't like! :D
I think this last statement is the key to what you are saying.

I have seen websites which I personally find horrible - in many areas, not just disco's, yet they rake in business through them like it's going ot of fashion!

I think before we start getting all destructive on other business's web sites, we should maybe concentrate on what it is that actually does work and what doesn't.

For example, personally, I very very rarely have to sell myself with a client who has come to me via the web site because I guess my site tells them everything they need to know. However, I don't get the hundreds of callers and emails each week that other guys on here do - so it it because my site is poor and frustrating or because I am only attracting contact from people who have seen what they want?

[Corabar Steve]

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[rob1963]

Steve - I completely agree! :lol:

[rob1963]

Ricesnaps - I agree with your comments.

Like I said, I was just giving my personal opinions. Some will agree with me, some will not.

I certainly didn't start the thread for people here to get destructive about each other's websites. I hope I made that clear in my text.

I just wanted to give some food for thought & get others to give their views.

[Paul James Promotions]

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Oi! :( :mad::cry: :cry:

[rob1963]

Don't worry Jamie...I ALSO have to go & stand in the corner! :cry:

[Corabar Entertainment]

Don't worry Jamie...I ALSO have to go & stand in the corner! :cry::confused: :confused: :confused: :eek:


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Steve - I completely agree! :lol:

[lightspeed]

My website is all flash, and it takes about 2 seconds to load.

And I think the people with broadband are a huge majority these days.

[Vectis]

Oi! :( :mad::cry: :cry:


Don't worry Jamie...I ALSO have to go & stand in the corner! :cry:

Me too :bang:

Actually, when I've finished with the content (still got plenty to do on that front!) I'm going to make it so that the user can select from a handful of alternative colour schemes. Can't do that until all my images are made transparent background.... oh will the list never end??? :rolleyes:

[A1DL]

And I think the people with broadband are a huge majority these days.

:confused:

do you mean WITHOUT Broadband?

[Corabar Steve]

I'd say there are more with than without these days, making them the majority

[A1DL]

I'd say there are more with than without these days, making them the majority

ignore me Steve, I misread the post, I'll go back to sleep :D :zip: :zip:

[Marc J]

I'm not a fan of "all flash" sites, just try using your back button on most of them!

Broadband users might be in the majority these days, but here's how Google sees the majority of flash sites (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=filetype%3Aswf+loading&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against flash, and done right an all flash site can be very impressive. I personally don't use flash for any critical parts of a site (i.e. navigation), but more for "eye candy" here and there...it also has its uses for including video and audio if you like that sort of thing....

[Corabar Steve]

ignore me Steve, I misread the post, I'll go back to sleep :D :zip: :zip:

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[leighinstoke]

Bad grammar and spelling.

Simple as that.

Leigh.....

[Dragonfly]

i changed my site to black with white text.... noted a real down turn in enquiries.... may have been coincidental but changed it back.

[BeerFunk]

Not sure about the comments about white text on black background, I think it looks good, and gives a good 'disco/nightlife' feel to it. I will be going with it for my website overhaul, and I know Darren (Solitaire) has it, and I reckon his site is one of the best on here (as I've said before) :)

[wensleydale]

i agree with that- i think the solitaire website is the best i have seen on the mdd.

looks good.
i'd book him.

[Ricesnaps]

I think its important to understand that there are some recognised web design principles which apply whatever your business. Getting your design right is about what is proven to be good and bad rather than what you think is right.

I am sure the white tex on a black background is one of those no go things - doesn't it make it harder for some people to read? Same goes for large pictures (or large file size), whether you think your site loads ok with the big pics, I am sure the proven facts are that most viewers will not stay to look.

I think an understanding of good design practice would help us all?

[Corabar Steve]

I know there are many people (myself included) who won't even bother with a site that has white / yellow on black / blue.

I'll only go anywhere near them if it's something that I really want that is specific to that site (& let's face it there are plenty of mobile disco sites out there)

[rob1963]

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OMG Steve...I assumed you were joking when you said that, but I now realise you were being serious!

I'm getting worried now...my site is white writing on a dark blue background, and I've never had any negative comments before!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[HightowerMusic]

Owning a web design company and doing web design for over 5 years now. I have seen it all. The customer will get what they ask for as far as contrasting colors of backgrounds and text. If you like how yours looks than why worry about it. I do a huge amount of flash sites here lately because that is what is concidered hot. They are flashy. Yes they get annoying and are a bother to download sometimes. Broadband is finally catching up with 10mb speeds. So most flash sites work well here. If your still on dial up then watch out. I have seen most of your sites. Some look good and some look really good. The key is to ask your clients about them. Find out if the site was really helpful or if it was lacking something. I find that my clients will be more than happy to give me thier opinion on my DJ site. My opinion on alot of the sites here are that they need some work, cause they sort of look home made. Which is not bad. Everything can stand a little improvment now and then. If you did your own sites please dont take offence at my comments. It took guts to do it and I know you are proud of it. If you want to improve your sites overall apperence then you may want to get a book from a local library and a good html program. There are some good ones for under $100.00. I myself use Dreamweaver but it is not cheap. All of your sites do what you want them to. They better explain your services and pricing, give out your phone number and showcase your work. Thats really all they need to do, flash or regular HTML. Last thing, is my site the best DJ site around? I like it but many others hate it. To each thier own.

[Ricesnaps]

Hightowers, Personally, I hate the way your site is laid out. Personally (note completely my own opinion), it's messy, crowded and poor to navigate.

But what we should be talking about it principles of web design. It makes absolutely no odds what I think about your site if the principles of web design have been followed and it's actually a great well designed site that your clients will stay and browse.

So what are the correct principles?

[wensleydale]

i don't understand the white on black debate- surely the issue is where colours are similar- never had any problems reading white on black at all.

[Marc J]

If you are planning to make your own site, at least set aside a few hours before you start to read up on good (and bad) design practices. Just Google for "Good Web Design Practices" or "Web Design Rules" and even "Examples of Bad Websites", after a quick look I found these two which are good: -

Web Design Principles Checklist (http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/webdesign.htm)
Site Design: Introduction (http://www.webdesign.org/web/web-design-basics/design-principles/site-design-introduction.6056.html)

Once you've decided to build your own website (or give your existing one a makeover) make a folder in your favourites and get into the habit of adding any sites you like the look of, and even a few you dislike. Look over these before you start on your own, think about what it is that makes you like or dislike them.

OR, get a professional to do it for you! You wouldn't advise a potential client to hook their iPod up to a pair of speakers at their function :eek:, the very idea is ridiculous!

[BeerFunk]

I know of some 'professional' web designers who know all the technical ins and outs, but their eye for design isn't all that great, or vice versa, they make it look good but don't understand the technical side of it (ie. an all flash site, which I'm sure everyone will agree is technically a bad idea).

You have to consider that to be called a 'professional' web designer, you only have to complete a relevant course. I'm not saying it isn't an achievement to complete a degree or diploma of some sort in web design - technically you should be able to make a great site, but with regards to design, it is a natural ability in my opinion.

I'd say the real test is to ask as many people as you can for an opinion, and ask for honest criticism. Or even better, try to get opinions from neutrals - maybe include a feedback form of some kind on the site? It's certainly something I'm considering for my site :)

[rob1963]

Hi Mark J,

The "Web Design Principles Checklist" you posted was interesting.

It states "Be sure there is sufficient contrast between background and text"

I completely agree. We all know that yellow text on a white background is a complete no no, as it cannot be seen, but I don't understand why some people have said they wont go near sites with white or yellow writing on a black or blue background.

A number of sites here (including myself) use those colours...including the disco which some have said is one of the best sites they've seen!

I really want to understand why some people have a problem with white or yellow on black or blue.....but I'm seriously struggling!!!

[rob1963]

I'd say the real test is to ask as many people as you can for an opinion, and ask for honest criticism. Or even better, try to get opinions from neutrals - maybe include a feedback form of some kind on the site? It's certainly something I'm considering for my site :)

I completely agree, Beerfunk. After all, it doesn't matter what we & other DJs think of our sites, it's the views of potential clients who browse them that count.

In future, as well as asking clients how they found my site, I'm going to ask how they got on with the site, what they thought of it etc.

[Marc J]

The "Web Design Principles Checklist" you posted was interesting... [SNIP] ...I don't understand why some people have said they wont go near sites with white or yellow writing on a black or blue background.

A number of sites here (including myself) use those colours...including the disco which some have said is one of the best sites they've seen!

I really want to understand why some people have a problem with white or yellow on black or blue.....but I'm seriously struggling!!!

Later on in the same article: -

Black backgrounds can give a "hard edge" to a site or make it seem "gloomy" or counterculture.

I personally think that statement is being kind, there are a lot of comments here (http://www.hwg.org/opcenter/newsletters/tips/feb00a.html) re the use of dark backgrounds!

To get back on topic a little and add to your original 5 points, I'd like to put forward #6 - Hit counters!

[Shaun]

#7 - Animated Clipart (especially if the background doesn't match the site colour scheme)

[Marc J]

You have to consider that to be called a 'professional' web designer, you only have to complete a relevant course. I'm not saying it isn't an achievement to complete a degree or diploma of some sort in web design - technically you should be able to make a great site, but with regards to design, it is a natural ability in my opinion.

The definition of "professional" (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=professional) is: -

1. following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.

I'm sure many here would call themselves professional DJs, entertainers etc., but how many have completed a relevant course? Anyone can complete a course, it's much harder to make a living (continuously) from something.

If a "professional" web designer has been in business fo 6 months, that says nothing. 6 years means he / she is making a living from it and so must be successful / doing something right. So, as in everything else, don't just take someone's word for it that they are professional because they say they are, or can produce a certificate - ask for examples of their previous work!

[Marc J]

If you are looking for a colour scheme, here's a few handy sites I've used in the past: -

[ws] Color Scheme Generator 2 (http://www.wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html)
Color Blender (http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/color-blend/)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Not sure about the comments about white text on black background, I think it looks good, and gives a good 'disco/nightlife' feel to it. I will be going with it for my website overhaul, and I know Darren (Solitaire) has it, and I reckon his site is one of the best on here (as I've said before) :)

Still on the Xmas card list....:D

i agree with that- i think the solitaire website is the best i have seen on the mdd.

looks good.
i'd book him.

Added to Xmas card list....:D

I've mentioned it before, but my site is a template, all I did was add the pictures and text etc.

I did spend probably about 6 months though looking at other DJs websites deciding what I didn't want on mine though.

[Corabar Entertainment]

The thing is, when I picture your Site, I always think of the blue. I had to go and look at it when Beerfunk said yours was black background.... because I would have sworn it wasn't!!!!! :eek:

[rob1963]

Hi Mark J,

I pretty much agree with you.

A professional is "One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation"

In other words, if you do a job which brings in the majority of your earnings on which you live, then you are a professional in that job.

Whether or not you've have done courses or exams is irrelevant.

Therefore, someone with a daytime job who also does discos at weekends is NOT a professional DJ, although they might like to THINK they are!


Later on in the same article: -

To get back on topic a little and add to your original 5 points, I'd like to put forward #6 - Hit counters!

I'm totally with you on hit counters Marc.

Most of us can get the hit figures from our site stats.

The public don't need to see hit counters on sites.

If the figure is too high, they probably wont believe it (and in many cases they are set to start at a very high number anyway - to make sites look more popular than they are).

If the figure is too low, it might put potential clients off.

Hit counters belong in Room 101!

[Corabar Entertainment]

Therefore, someone with a daytime job who also does discos at weekends is NOT a professional DJ, although they might like to THINK they are!I hope you didn't mean that the way it could come across: MANY part-time DJs deliver a professional service. It may not be their only source of income, but they are earning from it.

You can still be a professional working part-time rather than full-time IMHO.

[Corabar Steve]

The thing is, when I picture your Site, I always think of the blue. I had to go and look at it when Beerfunk said yours was black background.... because I would have sworn it wasn't!!!!! :eek:

You are right, it doesn't seem like a black site.

I think where it works compared to the majority of light on dark sites is down to the facts that
a) it's broken up with well applied use of photos (most of which are quite colourful)
b) There is a contrast on each page with the mid blue in the menu & header.

[BeerFunk]

Hi Mark J,

I pretty much agree with you.

A professional is "One who earns a living in a given or implied occupation"

In other words, if you do a job which brings in the majority of your earnings on which you live, then you are a professional in that job.

Whether or not you've have done courses or exams is irrelevant.

Therefore, someone with a daytime job who also does discos at weekends is NOT a professional DJ, although they might like to THINK they are!
I don't follow your logic :confused:

Regardless of whether they have another job, they still earn money through the occupation of DJ - it doesn't matter whether it is their main income or not. There are many on here that would take offence to that last statement (not me though :))

[Corabar Steve]

You can still be a professional working part-time rather than full-time IMHO.Indeed. Although by Rob's logic, I'm a professional
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[sleah]

I hope you didn't mean that the way it could come across: MANY part-time DJs deliver a professional service. It may not be their only source of income, but they are earning from it.

You can still be a professional working part-time rather than full-time IMHO.


Thank you Angela, for that vote of confidence.

Not wishing to sound big-headed, but some years ago I was working regularly with a *proper* pro-DJ who said I was "about as professional as I could be with actually being a professional".
When I have my "DJ" hat on, I am as professional as I would be if I were earning a full-time living from it. If I couldn't do that I would stop. This is why I have never advertised and always worked word of mouth and pick and choose jobs, as I can not give my full attention to the service.
I now do very little mobile work and stick to my nightclub job as I can't dedicate as much time as I used to, and would not want to provide a second rate service.
I will only do weddings for close friends and colleagues (who know my situation) as I simply cannot give as much attention to them as full-timers. Besides - I hate weddings!!! :evelgrin: ...but that's a different story :D

"Professional" is sadly a very miss-used word, along with "quality".
How many times have you seen either of those words in a title or slogan for a product or service?
Majority of the time, they are anything but.
A true professional will only ever use the word in it's correct context.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

"Professional" is sadly a very miss-used word, along with "quality".


Very true.

Just look at a lot of DJ gear which is advertised as 'professional'!

[rob1963]

Let me try and clarify what I was trying to say.

Many people who have daytime jobs and just do discos at weekends are better than those who are full time professional DJs.

I was not taking anything away from how good DJs are just because they also have a different daytime job in the week.

I used to have a daytime job in a bank, and did discos at the weekends. I earned my living from the bank, with the discos providing some extra money. Therefore, I was a professional bank officer, but not a professional DJ.

When I left my daytime job, I became a professional DJ, as I now do it for a living....but being a professional doesn't make me any better or worse than when I also had my daytime job.

Professional doesn't mean "Good" it means "Earns a living from it"

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Wouldn't it be just as easy to say you are a full time DJ then?

[Corabar Steve]

Not wishing to sound big-headed, but some years ago I was working regularly with a *proper* pro-DJ who said I was "about as professional as I could be with actually being a professional".
I think you're shooting yourself in the foot a little there, would you consider yourself an amateur?

If you provide a professional service then (regardless of working full or part time at it) you are indeed a professional.

[djdarren]

is it me or has this thread gone way of topic?
ps i changed a mate of mines website recently from black background to a nice colour blend and people said they did not like the change so it will be going back to black!

i think in the disco side of things black is a good colour as it represents nighttime and the bright colours (not to many) represent disco lighting.

after all most discos take place in the dark with bright lights
just my opinion tho!

[BeerFunk]

I used to have a daytime job in a bank, and did discos at the weekends. I earned my living from the bank, with the discos providing some extra money. Therefore, I was a professional bank officer, but not a professional DJ.

When I left my daytime job, I became a professional DJ, as I now do it for a living....but being a professional doesn't make me any better or worse than when I also had my daytime job.
Even so, most would say you were a professional DJ when you had your other full time job :)


i think in the disco side of things black is a good colour as it represents nighttime and the bright colours (not to many) represent disco lighting.

after all most discos take place in the dark with bright lights
just my opinion tho!
That's what I was trying to say, but you said it better! ;)

[rob1963]

"Professional" is sadly a very miss-used word



You've hit the nail on the head! :thanks:

[sleah]

I think you're shooting yourself in the foot a little there, would you consider yourself an amateur?

If you provide a professional service then (regardless of working full or part time at it) you are indeed a professional.

Absolutly Steve! (to both points) But I was making a point where the word is used to mean full time.

We have gone way OT so I won't post further on this thread...... just to say.....
Surely the word professional should not be applied simply to some one who is full time? After all, how many numptys are there who DJ for a living and are rubbish? Who knows!

To me, professional means your attitude, behaviour, working practices.
A pro DJ is someone who runs their business (be it full or part time) properly, treats clients and fellow DJ's with respect and so on, doesn't matter how much they get paid or wether it's their sole source of income.

[rob1963]

is it me or has this thread gone way of topic?



Darren - it's not you, and yes it has!

:offtopic:

So....back to the worst things we've seen on websites........

[Shaun]

To me, professional means your attitude, behaviour, working practices.
A pro DJ is someone who runs their business (be it full or part time) properly, treats clients and fellow DJ's with respect and so on, doesn't matter how much they get paid or wether it's their sole source of income.

Spot on :approve:

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Now where were we?. Worst things you've seen on mobile disco websites!

[rob1963]

Elite DJ - all of that is having a professional APPROACH, which is not the same as BEING a professional!

Ok.....time to get back on topic!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I don't like to see horrible little flashing images of disco lights. They look so naff IMO.

[rob1963]

I don't like to see horrible little flashing images of disco lights. They look so naff IMO.

OMG Darren...I guess I better take them off my site then! :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

OMG Darren...I guess I better take them off my site then! :D

<goes off to have a look> :D :p

[rob1963]

<goes off to have a look> :D :p

Dont worry...I was just joking! :p

[HightowerMusic]

I support myself and my family from my web design company and DJ business income. I like most of the sites I design. I agree that my DJ site tends to get a little busy. It is about 3 or 4 years old now and it is starting to get massive, thats why I am redesigning it with Dream Weaver. It is funny how your thoughts change with age. You once liked how something looked and later on you hate it. I get massive hits to my site every year. I just did a remodel in Aug of 2006 and I have over 10,000 hits already. I must be doing something right with it. The question to be answered is what are the do's and dont's of web design? It varies with each person you ask. My web design teacher would die if you used yellow on white or white on black, but these days they are really popular. The problem with these types of formats is that most of us surf the web in a dark room and yellow on white and white on black is supposed to tire our eyes out and sometimes give us a headache. Headaches are bad for repeat customers. I use some white on black, but the difference now as to when I fisrt started is that I will use layers or tables of darker colors insted of just a solid black background. Just remeber this. If your site is getting customers and they are booking you then it must be working. Is there such a thing as a perfect website? Nope, it is all in the eye of the beholder and opinions will change from day to day.

[Steve the DJ]

I dislike any websites that have pictures of mirror balls, CD's or microphones on and are are built in 1&1 Website Creator...:rolleyes:

[MickyP]

I dislike any websites that have pictures of mirror balls, CD's or microphones on and are are built in 1&1 Website Creator...:rolleyes:


Why???

MP

[Steve the DJ]

I don't really, I am joking and have a site built with that myself. ;)

Funnily enough I think the old Website Creator is much better than the new ones they have brought in.

[rob1963]

Is there such a thing as a perfect website? Nope, it is all in the eye of the beholder and opinions will change from day to day.



You are completely right, Hightower, and this thread has shown how many different opinions there are.

If you ask 10 people what's the best film they've seen, you will probably get 10 different answers.

The same is true of websites. We are all different & we all like different things.

There was a good suggestion earlier in this thread - to ask clients for their feedback on our websites, which is something I will start to do.

After all, on this thread there are DJs saying what they do & don't like on websites, but all that REALLY matters is what potential CLIENTS think...as THEY are the people who will - or will not book us!

:)

[DMX Will]

The thing I most hate, about websites in general, not just DJ ones is when people put up images, and then use their HTML editor to re-size them meaning:
- The image is distorted because a web browser cannot scale an image properly
and The image takes a long time to load....

very irritating!

I also hate bravnet (or whatever it's called) Tools.

Edit: Agree with the black/white argument, I think it looks naff on most sites, but both Darren and Jamie's sites pull it off, quite a few don't which is a shame.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Hi all,

Well that's me right up **** creek without a paddle then. All of my pages on my site are black with white text (some of it's red here and there). I wanted to create that night time feel as generally, it's at night when we work...isn't it?
Mine is not flashy or anything like that and to be honest, I do it myself without any knowledge of Dreamweaver MX. I gave up my job over a year ago to start my business and got Dreamweaver MX and sat there for a week working out the basics (can't you tell?)...It does the job for me and I have a lot of enquiries via it so I'm happy (ish).

[Corabar Steve]

The red breaks it up though, somehow makes it easier on the eye.

[jaygees]

hello all

i think it would all be a bit dull if everyone had the same sort of style web page. (or is that just me?:confused: )

if the web page works done change it :D

[Corabar Entertainment]

i think it would all be a bit dull if everyone had the same sort of style web page. (or is that just me?:confused: )Agreed.... variety is the spice of life, and it would be boring if we were all the same, etc etc, and all that.... you'll never have something that everyone likes

[Marc J]

Shakermaker, unfortunately your site (http://www.shakermakeruk.com) has reminded me of another thing I hate to see!

Since an update to Internet Explorer a while back (April 2006), any flash (or ActiveX) objects have to be activated before they display correctly. This is due to a patent lawsuit that Microsoft lost (details if you're interested (http://www.baekdal.com/articles/Technology/microsoft-ie-activex-update/)).

Anway, basically it means that any flash embedded the "old way" on your pages needs an additional click to activate, which means all your flash buttons don't go green on rollover, and need two clicks to work! If you're using IE you'll notice the "click to activate and use this control" tooltip when you mouseover them.

The fix is free and fairly easy to use: SWFObject (http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/)

It uses a little javascript to add the flash to your pages, getting around the MS issue nicely :)

[Jiggles]

Mines inst really good but is better than what i was expecting to make :D:D

[rob1963]

Since an update to Internet Explorer a while back (April 2006), any flash (or ActiveX) objects have to be activated before they display correctly.

Anyway, basically it means that any flash embedded the "old way" on your pages needs an additional click to activate



Thanks for that info, Marc.

I'm not technically minded...but always wondered why the buttons don't work on some sites unless you double click on them.

You learn something new every day! :D

[pulsemobiledisco]

What I hate to see on websites is pictures of DJ's posing with a mic or headphones. I think it looks cheesey. A nice pic of the DJ in a suit or DJ with no pose is much better IMHO.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Cheers Marc J - I thought it may have been the new laptop I bought so now that I know, I will sort it.

Anything else or is the rest ok?

G

[BeerFunk]

Anything else or is the rest ok?Now you come to mention it, yes! -->>
I thought it may have been the new laptop I bought so now that I know, I will sort it.This is another important concept to web design - test your site on as many different browser setups as possible ;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Fair enough, I'll do that and thanks again ****ers (only joking of course!)..seriously, I appreciate the feedback.

[Marc J]

Anything else or is the rest ok?
Technically, everything else seems fine.

However from a design point of view, it kinda looks like you've gone through this entire thread and added at least one of everything to your site!


5) Sites which have a page that gives a text listing of all the equipment they use. This is completely MEANINGLESS to clients, and also even to DJs - unless they use or have used / seen the equipment in question!
http://www.shakermakeruk.com/kit%20list.htm


White or yellow writing on a black or dark blue background


I personally don't use flash for any critical parts of a site (i.e. navigation)
Your whole site relies on the user having flash to navigate around it. What if the bride-to-be is at work looking for entertainment for her big day? Many workplaces don't allow flash as a security issue, so she wouldn't even get past your entry page (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/). She would, however, be able to click on the links to Yell.com, 118trades.com and UK-Disco to find an alternative! Consider adding a footer to each page with the flash links as text links. This would help in these situations, and also for search engines who generally can't crawl a flash site. If you rely on flash or javascript for your main navigation, you should always provide an alternative method. The SWFObject link I posted earlier allows you to include alternative noflash content which is the best solution all round!


I'd like to put forward #6 - Hit counters!
Here (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/promotions.htm) and here (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/main1.htm)!


#7 - Animated Clipart (especially if the background doesn't match the site colour scheme)
Your dancers (here (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/promotions.htm)) and the Union Jack (here (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/main1.htm)) - but at least they're not obviously taken from a lighter background!


Most of us can get the hit figures from our site stats.

The public don't need to see hit counters on sites.
Not only do you have a hit counter, but you also link to your full web stats. Keep this info to yourself!


The thing I most hate, about websites in general, not just DJ ones is when people put up images, and then use their HTML editor to re-size them
On this page (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/promotions.htm) you've resized this image (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/flyers/new.jpg) from 600 x 412 to 400 x 190 using HTML. Not only is this bad practice as Will stated, but it's disproportionally resized (400 x 275 or 277 x 190 would keep the same apect ratio).


I also hate bravnet (or whatever it's called) Tools.
Your hit counter and stats link...

Finally, on this page (http://www.shakermakeruk.com/main1.htm):-
This website was created using Dreamweaver MX, Photoshop 7,Corel Draw 9 and a Fuji Digital.
Who cares? Are these companies paying you to advertise their products? Does your van have a sticker on the back stating "this van is powered by BP petrol"? Yes, you guessed it, this is another pet hate of mine :bang:

So, not so much technically wrong, but a list of things that those who have contributed to this thread have said they personally don't like to see. But, as others have also said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone has their own opinion of what's good and what's not. And if your website works for you, then don't change it!

[rob1963]

Here's a site which enables you to see how different text colours will look on different background colours:


http://www.pagetutor.com/colorpicker/index.html


You can also see how various fonts & text sizes will look on your website.



Having played about with many text & background colours, I've decided my site is fine as it is! :D :D :D

[magicfm]

I hate sites with writing you can't read because the plonker is writing in yellow

[sleah]

I hate sites with writing you can't read because the plonker is writing in yellow

I hate sites with writing you can't read because the plonker is writing in white on an Aqua background, or visa-versa I have mild colour blindness and cannot see this sentance, I can just see a slight mark where the words are, even with my glasses on.

Few! back to black :D
(Aparently) The DDA (Disabilty Discrimination Act) states that websites have to conform to certain standards for visabilty, I can't work out how the law actually works on this. When does a site have to conform???

[rob1963]

Oh my god, Sleah...I can't read that sentence either - and I DON'T have colour blindness!!!

Hurrah for the ability to highlight text! :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Erm...a bit of a ****ing there (joke) but constructive all the same.
Can I just say that I did my website a while back and update it every sunday, I only joined here yesterday and found this topic yesterday so I haven't been through the thread and done bits and bobs.
I will be taking your comments / advice and using them when I get some time in the week to adjust the site. It's all a learning process for me and if you don't ask for comments / advice then how are you supposed to know what kind of impression people are getting from looking at your site....I appreciate them all and I will sort it. As I said, it works for me and I have had some fairly decent comments on it considering I did it myself and even though it's basic, it's not that bad and better than some I have seen.

[Dragonfly]

I hate sites with writing you can't read because the plonker is writing in white on an Aqua background, or visa-versa I have mild colour blindness and cannot see this sentance, I can just see a slight mark where the words are, even with my glasses on.

Few! back to black :D
(Aparently) The DDA (Disabilty Discrimination Act) states that websites have to conform to certain standards for visabilty, I can't work out how the law actually works on this. When does a site have to conform???


Websites may be covered under the employment provisions, as they may be a means of advertising jobs; or there may be an intranet which staff need to use. Websites will most commonly be covered when they constitute the provision of a service, or they are related to education.

The Code of Practice cites an airline website as an example to define a service online. Taken from the Code of Practice 2.13 - 2.17 (p11-13):

“What services are affected by the Act? An airline company provides a flight reservation and booking service to the public on its website. This is a provision of a service and is subject to the act.”

[magicfm]

..and you know what really annoys me on web sites .....:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

....those silly security questions that ask you to type in the squiggily letters into a box. You can't make the bloody things out no matter how hard you squint. :mad: :angry:

(_8())

[Corabar Entertainment]

You can't make the bloody things out no matter how hard you squint. :mad: :angry:

(_8())...."Should've gone to Specsavers" ! :p ;) :D

[rob1963]

..and you know what really annoys me on web sites .....:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

....those silly security questions that ask you to type in the squiggily letters into a box. You can't make the bloody things out no matter how hard you squint. :mad: :angry:

(_8())


I agree, Magic, although they're VERY effective at stopping spam submissions

[Marc J]

Erm...a bit of a ****ing there (joke) but constructive all the same.I'm sorry if it came across that way, but you did ask, and as you say constructive criticism is good.

Think of it more as a free website audit :)

[sleah]

Websites may be covered under the employment provisions, as they may be a means of advertising jobs; or there may be an intranet which staff need to use. Websites will most commonly be covered when they constitute the provision of a service, or they are related to education.

The Code of Practice cites an airline website as an example to define a service online. Taken from the Code of Practice 2.13 - 2.17 (p11-13):

“What services are affected by the Act? An airline company provides a flight reservation and booking service to the public on its website. This is a provision of a service and is subject to the act.”

Tanks for dat :D

So it is possible for a disco website to come under the regs if it provides a booking service, as some do??
Interesting (in a nerdy kind of way:rolleyes: )

[rob1963]

I just thought of another one: any kind of adverts, especially pop-ups

:bang: :bang: :bang:

[Corabar Entertainment]

I just thought of another one: any kind of adverts, especially pop-ups

:bang: :bang: :bang:What are you doing on this Site then? ;) :D :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

Just ignore her Rob http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif

[rob1963]

Steve - has she been on the sauce?

[Dragonfly]

is angela saucey?????

[Corabar Steve]

Steve - has she been on the sauce?

Nah




Maybe that's the problem http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif

[Corabar Entertainment]

Steve - has she been on the sauce?Nah - bread and black cherry jam (Yum Yum) ;) :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

Sugar rush http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/wink2.gif

[rob1963]

Fair enough!!!!!

[Corabar Entertainment]

:daft:

[rob1963]

Sites which actively ENCOURAGE rigid playlists :bang:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Sites which actively ENCOURAGE rigid playlists :bang:

LMAO!:D :beer1: :beer1:

[Dragonfly]

are sites that actively encourage floppy playlists ok then???

[PropellerHeadCase]

Totally agree on the tragic midi loop point. That has to put people off having your site sound like an Ice Cream vendor... "Greeen Sleeeeeeves...."

The thing that gets me most about any site, not just DJs, is poor spelling and grammar. If you are putting yourself out there as a professional in your field then at least spell check your blurb before showing the world that you have no idea how to use an apostrophe. I realise I'm in a minority on that point.

[rob1963]

are sites that actively encourage floppy playlists ok then???

Yes Dragon...I've never had a problem with floppy playlists, just the rigid ones! :D

[rob1963]

To be honest, most of my playlists are floppy these days.

Must be my age :p

[Corabar Entertainment]

I realise I'm in a minority on that point.I don't think you are :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I don't think you are :D

I'd second that point!:D

[Corabar Steve]

Rigid or floppy playlists that put an apostrophy in Dexys Midnight Runners :d http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif :d

[Marc J]

Ahhh...good old Dexys

My favourite being "Jocky Wilson (http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/asportingnation/images/id/0039/gallery/img01.jpg) Said" :)

[Corabar Steve]

Ah, but which version of the story do you believe? Was it deliberate or was it one of the biggest mistakes the BBC props department ever made?

[Marc J]

Ah, but which version of the story do you believe?

That's a tough one....the Jury's out with me...


was it one of the biggest mistakes the BBC props department ever made?

No, that'd be putting Anthea Turner in the same vicinity as a truck and a motorbike....

Or giving Noel Edmonds a bungee cord and a crane....

[rob1963]

Watch what you say about Noel Edmonds!

[rob1963]

Ok...can someone enlighten me as to the meaning of the five stars which come up by this thread in the mobile disco forum summary.

I can't see any of these stars enywhere else.

[soundscapes]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?

[Shaun]

Ok...can someone enlighten me as to the meaning of the five stars which come up by this thread in the mobile disco forum summary.

I can't see any of these stars enywhere else.

Hi Rob,

At the top of each thread there is an option for rating it.

You can find the answer in full HERE (http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_thread_rate)

[rob1963]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?

Good one Simon, but I'd like to expand on that.

Sites with ANY information which is exagerated or just complete bull. In other words, people who over-sell themselves.

I've seen sites with hit counters that are so high that they were obviously originally set to start at 25,000 rather than 0.

I saw another site which proudly claimed that they had over 30 discos, but I knew for a fact that they actually had less than 10.

The same site listed a number of venues where they said they were the ONLY discos recommended by those venues, but in truth they were one of about half a dozen.

I am pleased to be able to say all information and customer comments on my own site are 100% accurate & genuine! :D

[rob1963]

Hi Rob,

At the top of each thread there is an option for rating it.

You can find the answer in full HERE (http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_thread_rate)

Ahhhhh....thanks for that, Elite.

In that case, I feel very flattered, as I started the thread! :D :D :D

[Shaun]

It's proved to be a very helpful and insightful topic :)

[dj steady]

White or yellow writing on a black or dark blue background http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif

Thanks Mate.............

i feel this is a very dodgy thread as my site as plenty of others consist of many of the things that are being critasised on this thread...

i selected the colours on my site after much playing around with different formats and ended up with white on black due to the clarity of that scheme.....

i have looked at everyones web sites on this and many other forums and not one is perfect ( mine included ) but they have all been designed to personal preference or financial restrictions...

i could be very critical of many sites and i will be honest one of my big complaints is a site without an open gallery with at least one good shot of the disco the customer is propectivly hireing many gallerys are quote "under construction" for months or only display pictures of venues/audience or don't have gallery at all........have you got something to hide...??? or does your show not live up to your advertising so you daren't put a photo of it on your site....!!

my personal opinion is this thread be closed before somebody really does upset another member of this site with a hurtful/nasty opinion..

[Corabar Entertainment]

my personal opinion is this thread be closed before somebody really does upset another member of this site with a hurtful/nasty opinion..Not sure I understand your reasoning there Steady: no-one is getting personal about anyone else's site, just saying what they personally don't like about sites in general. You are right in that no-one has a perfect site, and I'd guess that almost all, if not every single one of us have something(s) on our own sites that others have mentioned here as not liking, but isn't it useful to have general comments about people's likes/dislikes for websites? - a silly example: a.n.other DJ might absolutely love rainbow colours and use them all over their Site, but if the majority of people stated in this thread that the one thing they disliked was rainbow colours, it wouldn't be an insult to a.n.other DJ, but it might make that DJ think that maybe their own personal taste was out of step with the majority of people's and that their site wasn't appealing to as many customers as it might do.

At the end of the day, if anyone's Site is working for them, then that's all that matters.

[Dragonfly]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?

Because the quotes where taken from emails???? :D :D :D :D :D

dont see the problem with the thread if an objective view is kept .....as long as no one says "i hate ...... like on ..... website because its rubbish"

its general, certain elements that annoy certain people quite simply if you have a website and its working well for you whatever you have done ...... ignore this thread!!!!! if you are thinking about creating a site or modifying one there maybe one or 2 pointers you would like to consider???

[Shaun]

i feel this is a very dodgy thread as my site as plenty of others consist of many of the things that are being critasised on this thread...



I don't feel anyone is being singled out directly. All people are doing are giving opinions.





i have looked at everyones web sites on this and many other forums and not one is perfect


I agree, which is why I feel that threads like this are helpful. I gained a lot of invaluable tips already from the topic.






i could be very critical of many sites and i will be honest one of my big complaints is a site without an open gallery with at least one good shot of the disco the customer is propectivly hireing many gallerys are quote "under construction" for months or only display pictures of venues/audience or don't have gallery at all........have you got something to hide...??? or does your show not live up to your advertising so you daren't put a photo of it on your site....!!


I guess my site could be included in this comment. I took the approach that potential customers would rather see people having fun than static shots of equipment. I personally feel that it's only DJ's that like to look at the equipment pages of other DJ's sites. I do however take pictures of the rig in every venue I play at. During the initial meeting with clients I'll take along snapshots to show them how the set-up will look in their chosen location (if I've previously played there). I've never had a client specifically ask to see pictures of the set-up though.





my personal opinion is this thread be closed before somebody really does upset another member of this site with a hurtful/nasty opinion..

I see no reason for it to be closed really. If any nasty or hurtful comments are made directly to anyone they'll be removed. Up till now all people have posted are personal opinions.

:beer1:

[Dragonfly]

the one ting id really like for my site is a proper banner heading bit for the top of each page as the one ive done myself is totally pants :D :D

[Shaun]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?

95% of my customer comments come via the online feedback form within my client area, or via email. Very few actually come in the form of a letter these days.

[soundscapes]

95% of my customer comments come via the online feedback form within my client area, or via email. Very few actually come in the form of a letter these days.

much the same here but it makes it very difficult to prove to potential customers that they are genuine. i know of one local jock who has put screenshots of the emails up

[Corabar Entertainment]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?I know what you're saying Simon, but every site I've seen with scanned images of letters I've found difficult to read.... and let's be honest, if someone is unscrupulous enough to lie about the comments they have received, writing a few letters on different pieces of paper using different pens in different styles isn't going to stop them! We once had someone 'steal' customer comments from our Site and when I spoke to them about it they didn't give a hoot: when I said that we could produce all of the original forms/letters, etc his response was "Don't worry, if we need to, we'll produce original documents with the comments in as well" :eek:

[Shaun]

much the same here but it makes it very difficult to prove to potential customers that they are genuine. i know of one local jock who has put screenshots of the emails up

Now there's an idea!.

I've never actually considered that clients may think that comments aren't real. I guess I'm too trusting. I can't help thinking that it's more likely other DJ's who think that comments may not be genuine....and not the potential customers?. Who knows, I could be wrong. :)

I have all my 'customer feedback' print-outs in a presentation folder that I take to client meetings. It also contains pictures of the varying size set-ups etc that are available to them.

[Corabar Entertainment]

I have all my 'customer feedback' print-outs in a presentation folder that I take to client meetings. Same here - plus I offer to post a selection of copies out to anyone who wants to look at them.

[Dragonfly]

i got a lovely phone call from a venue manager which is still on my answer phone thanking me for a wonderful night and representing their venue the way they felt it should be and getting their staff dancing in the kitchen/behind the bar and theyd be recommending me ......... how can i get that on my website??? :D :D

[rob1963]

i feel this is a very dodgy thread as my site as plenty of others consist of many of the things that are being critasised on this thread...

my personal opinion is this thread be closed before somebody really does upset another member of this site with a hurtful/nasty opinion..

Dj Steady - I'm really surprised by your comments.

I don't think anyone has been nasty about a specific member's website, as all comments have been made in general terms.

We all know there is no such thing as the perfect website, as everyone has different tastes. I started the thread for DJs to share their opinions and give some food for thought. It has certainly given ME lots of ideas.

I'm sorry you think it's a dodgy thread which should be closed, but most members appear to find it useful, relevant and interesting.

After all, it has a 5 star rating, over 1950 viewings and 125 replies. How many other threads can claim all that?

Probably none.

I rest my case.

[DMX Will]

After all, it has a 5 star rating, over 1900 viewings and 120 replies. How many other threads can claim all that?

Probably none.


Word Assosiation? ;)

Shame it probably doesn't count :(

[Vectis]

how can i get that on my website??? :D :D

Record it as an mp3?

[Dragonfly]

how off my answerphone ??? remember speak slowly im a technical numpty? lol

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Sites with "customer comments" which are clearly just made up. Why cant they either post copies of the actual letters ? hmmmm i wonder ?


Because it would take too much space up and look messy too.


95% of my customer comments come via the online feedback form within my client area, or via email. Very few actually come in the form of a letter these days.

A lot of mine come via emails.

I run a reputable company, so why would I feel the need to post the actual letters on my site? I don't need to prove anything to anyone, and the fact is, every single comment on my site is genuine, I can assure you.

[Shaun]

I run a reputable company, so why would I feel the need to post the actual letters on my site? I don't need to prove anything to anyone, and the fact is, every single comment on my site is genuine, I can assure you.

Ditto!. My thoughts exactly.

[Danno13]

Likewise with the comments on mine. Apart from the odd spelling and grammar correction i've had to do :D

[rob1963]

A lot of mine come via emails.

I run a reputable company, so why would I feel the need to post the actual letters on my site? I don't need to prove anything to anyone, and the fact is, every single comment on my site is genuine, I can assure you.

I agree, Solitaire.

I don't think it's necessary to post letters on our sites, just the comments themselves. After all, they are not always made by letter.

Some of the customer comments on my site were letters, some were emails and some were verbal comments made to me by the client at the end of the evening.

The important thing for me is that they are all genuine.

[rob1963]

Likewise with the comments on mine. Apart from the odd spelling and grammer correction i've had to do :D

Danno - I don't think that's how you spell grammar :D :D :D

[Danno13]

Well spotted.. want to check my website for me?? :D:D:D

[rob1963]

Well spotted.. want to check my website for me?? :D:D:D

How much are you offering? :p

[Corabar Steve]

At the end of the day each site is down to the personal taste of it's owner, there is no right or wrong, & if they all looked the same ........
a) it would be boring
&
b) how would the customer know who to book?

[Vectis]

how off my answerphone ??? remember speak slowly im a technical numpty? lol

Got a microphone in/attached to your computer? That's one option. Use the Microsoft built-in Sound Recorder tool (Start->Programs->Accessories->Entertainment->Sound Recorder) to produce a .wav file, then pick up any one of a million freebie WAV-MP3 tools off the web.

Or (depends how badly you want this!!! :D ) DJ Mic -> DJ Mixer -> Line In socket on your PC and do the same...?

[Marc J]

Another thread reminded of another few things I hate: -

1. Internal links opening in a new window.

2. Right click disabled.

3. Anything that breaks the back button (most commonly meta refreshes, used when a page has moved).

[rob1963]

Another thread reminded of another few things I hate: -

1. Internal links opening in a new window.

2. Right click disabled.

3. Anything that breaks the back button (most commonly meta refreshes, used when a page has moved).

Hi Mark,

I especially agree with the first one...when you end up with more windows than Everest! :D

[Twinspin]

At one point i did have copies of emails on my actual site. But now i have just changed sites.

but i would however like some feedback on mine.

http://www.twinspin.co.uk

[Dragonfly]

erm your link doesnt work for a start chap :D :D :D

[Shaun]

Twinspin,

I've fixed your link for you :approve:

[Twinspin]

thanks. sorry my mistake.

[Marc J]

Twinspin, the file size of the image on your homepage is a massive 667Kb :eek:

The attached image is less than 6Kb :)

Replace it asap, it'll load much faster and save on your bandwidth!

[Twinspin]

thanks Marc

i have changed the image with the one above cheers.

[soundscapes]

You do realise that according to your homepage, you started your business when you were 9 years old ?????

[soundscapes]

sorry 7 years old.

[Twinspin]

oops.......... didnt realise it said 1991...... just changed it...... the website was only put online last night. :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[Marc J]

...so we're back to 9?

[Twinspin]

14 years. (23 year old now)

[soundscapes]

so that would be 1996 / 1997

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Blimey, some geniuses on here tonight...:lol:

[PropellerHeadCase]

Twinspin, in your 'About' section the last word is "dissapointment", should be 'disappointment'. That said, from a PR point of view, do you really want that to be the last word a person reads on your page?

[Twinspin]

Twinspin, in your 'About' section the last word is "dissapointment", should be 'disappointment'. That said, from a PR point of view, do you really want that to be the last word a person reads on your page?

change made thanks.

[PropellerHeadCase]

Ah, no, I think you misunderstood me. Ignore the " and the '

You have two S's and a P when it should be one S and two P's

Disappointment not dissapointment

[Marc J]

i would however like some feedback on mine.

http://www.twinspin.co.uk

1. On your main page (http://www.twinspin.co.uk/), the image in your header links to a page http://www.twinspin.co.uk/new/about.htm, which doesn't exist.

2. On all pages, the email graphic in your header should really be a mailto: link

3. Once you've left your main page, there's no way to get back to it other than the back button. It's "standard" to make your logo link back to your main page at all times (unless you're actually on your main page - a page shouldn't link to itself).

4. It doesn't seem to be finished?

5. I personally don't like the bright blue, my monitor's always turned up fairly bright and it almost blinded me :eek:

6. As we've already established, 1993 might be a candidate for post #112 (http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=99160&postcount=112) :shrug:

7. I'd remove the "Website Design By John Brown", from the footer. It screams "look, I did this myself". Usually this info is put there by the web design company, and not on their own sites!

Just to expand on #7, if you pay a web design company to do your site for you, make sure they've asked beforehand if they can put a credit anywhere on the site. It's not their right to do so, and you should really get a slight discount if you allow it.

[Twinspin]

Ok i have changed all the points you have mentioned i have ammended them points. But as for point number six. every word on my site is the truth so i will be keeping that as it is.

[wensleydale]

so you set up the business when you were 9?

[Corabar Entertainment]

I think Marc was having a bit of a joke with you on point 6: I think he was going back to the conversation about the year you started DJing. In post 151 you say 14 years, and following on from the previous posts, I think most people have read that to mean that you started DJing when you were 14, but I think you are saying that you have been DJing for 14 years???? (Making you 9 when you started!)

[Twinspin]

just thought about it. I can see where marc is coming from now. however i have been doing since then. I wasnt professional as such since then. I just started doing at 9. I was still in primary school at the time. was christmas 1993 i started doing them.(school christmas disco)

[Shaun]

My Uncle had turntables when I was about 8 years old. I remember doing most of the music at one of his New Year parties. It hardly makes me 'established' since that time. :p

Don't take this the wrong way, but I (personally) think your use of the word is a little misleading. Surely 'established' is the the time you first registered the business?

Just my thoughts...

[Twinspin]

after reading shauns post (as above) i have realised i have got the wrong end of the stick. Sorry guys and girls

Now just to put any misunderstandings right. I have doing discos since i was 9 year old which means now i have 14 years experience. However. i didnt establish my company Twinspin while 2001. :bang: i feel like a right p*llock!!

i stand corrected.

[Shaun]

'Experience' is a better description.

If we were to remove all the posts where we've said something that we later "re-evaluated", the forum would be an empty place. We've all had our moments (myself included). :)

[Corabar Entertainment]

Really Shaun? Can't say I've ever noticed! :whistle: :zip:

It's true what you say though...... what do you think we've got the :doh: smilie for! :D

[Twinspin]

looks like its there if i ever need it again

heres one for the first time. :doh:

[Shaun]

Really Shaun? Can't say I've ever noticed! :whistle: :zip:



It's always you that notices too..:p . Everytime I put my foot in it you take great pride in pointing it out to me :D

Twinspin, you're not alone ;)

[Twinspin]

well. i have changed the info on my website so the information displays correct. also to stop me looking like idiot

[Corabar Entertainment]

:lol: (to both of the last two posts!) :D

[Marc J]

Just to confirm, my initial comment was "tongue in cheek", simply because there was some confusion over the accuracy of the dates, which is why I said "might be a candidate" :)

Sorry if I caused any offence :(

[Twinspin]

none taken mate :)