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soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:06 PM
Just wondered why we all seem to be so anti-txt abbreviations on this forum ? it seems a tad hypocritical when we all use smileys which evolved out of txt language :-). I just think maybe we are making too much of the whole "dont use txt abbreviations on this site" thing, when even the moderators slip em in occasionally.

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:12 PM
But smilies are they to convey emotion and personally I hate text speak on forums.

Every forum has to have rules and those are in ours.

The odd LOL etc is OK, but it's when people starting writing ppl and m8 that it gets annoying.

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:14 PM
To me, it's common courtesy. English is the language we speak - and write. Not everyone is familiar with 'txt speak' and it therefore makes it far harder to read.

Pierre Le Sound
21-03-2007, 09:15 PM
But smilies are they to convey emotion and personally I hate text speak on forums.

The odd LOL etc is OK, but it's when people starting writing ppl and m8 that it gets annoying.

I agree, 'TXT' speak is for saving money on your phone by cramming as much into one message as possible. Personally, I like to speak English 'like wot it is writ'.

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:16 PM
If everyone had taken that attitude we would still be speaking latin, everything moves on, even language

Pierre Le Sound
21-03-2007, 09:17 PM
If everyone had taken that attitude we would still be speaking latin, everything moves on, even language

Very true, but everything has it's place.

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:17 PM
If everyone had taken that attitude we would still be speaking latin, everything moves on, even language

How the hell is abbreviated words and being too lazy to type properly, moving on?:mad:

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:18 PM
It is also worrying that it is becoming increasingly clear that many people have no idea that the way things are written in 'txt speak' is not how it's supposed to be written!!!!!!!

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:22 PM
i find it interesting that all objections so far have come from people over the age of 30. like it or not guys, within a few years many of the txt abbreviations will become commonplace and accepted. rewind a few years and how many of us would have used bpm or pc or any number i could list. abbreviations become adopted by a generation and eventually become commonplace. personally im not a fan of "txt spk" i dont think however, we should be discriminating against the younger generation of dj's coming through because they use it.

Pierre Le Sound
21-03-2007, 09:24 PM
I see no discimination!! Just a rule that makes posts easy for ALL to understand.

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:27 PM
How the hell is abbreviated words and being too lazy to type properly, moving on?:mad:

how is a smiley (originally generated by mis-use of symbols,commas etc..) moving on ? How is writing in capitals supposed to convey shouting ? we may not like it but txt spk will become commonplace

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Da hwyr dyma beth destun areithia cadernid cystal bod at rhyw chennym.

Simon, if you don't want posts in plain English, then we could always resort to other languages

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:28 PM
i find it interesting that all objections so far have come from people over the age of 30. like it or not guys, within a few years many of the txt abbreviations will become commonplace and accepted. rewind a few years and how many of us would have used bpm or pc or any number i could list. abbreviations become adopted by a generation and eventually become commonplace. personally im not a fan of "txt spk" i dont think however, we should be discriminating against the younger generation of dj's coming through because they use it.

Younger DJs using it like Flatliners who is 35 you mean....

I don't care what anyone says - those are the forum rules here, so stick to them or don't post. It has nothing to do with discrimination.

Imagine if 'youngsters' started putting text speak into exam papers or application forms. Do you suppose they would get top marks or even asked back for an interview?

I think not.

BPM and PC have been used for at least 20 years if not longer.

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:28 PM
and how many websites do you see using it? or any other business or formal documents?

It's not discrimination asking people to use our written language!!! In fact, quite the opposite: there are plenty of people on here who may not be familiar with the abbreviations, plus we are now getting quite a few visitors from overseas. For them, English is a second language and 'txt speak' is hardly going to help them feel at home, is it?

The examples you have given (bpm, pc) are not written abbreviations of existing words, they are acronyms - which are very different.

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:29 PM
To me, it's common courtesy. English is the language we speak - and write. Not everyone is familiar with 'txt speak' and it therefore makes it far harder to read.

how is "u" harder to read than "you" :confused: :D :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:29 PM
how is a smiley (originally generated by mis-use of symbols,commas etc..) moving on ? How is writing in capitals supposed to convey shouting ? we may not like it but txt spk will become commonplace

Not on here it won't.

I didn't say a smilie was moving on - I said they are used to convey emotion.

Read my post.

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 09:30 PM
how is a smiley (originally generated by mis-use of symbols,commas etc..) moving on ? How is writing in capitals supposed to convey shouting ? we may not like it but txt spk will become commonplace

But what are known as smilies on intenet forums are in actual fact emoticons, which do exactly what Darren said. As for capitals conveying shouting, HOW ELSE WOULD YOU GET THAT ACROSS?

Pierre Le Sound
21-03-2007, 09:32 PM
BPM and PC have been used for at least 20 years if not longer.

MPG, MPH, IRA. These are correct abrieviations, that is, using the first letter of each word, not just leaving out random letters or integrating numbers. For example, the song SK8TR BOI. ( or however it was)

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:34 PM
Younger DJs using it like Flatliners who is 35 you mean....

I don't care what anyone says - those are the forum rules here, so stick to them or don't post. It has nothing to do with discrimination.

Imagine if 'youngsters' started putting text speak into exam papers or application forms. Do you suppose they would get top marks or even asked back for an interview?

I think not.

BPM and PC have been used for at least 20 years if not longer.

asked back for an interview ?? it depends on who is reading the application form surely ? eventually the type and age group of people who use this will find their way into management.

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:34 PM
I say again, they are technically not abbreviations, but acronyms :p :p :D

(Pay attention at the back there! :p :p :p )

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:36 PM
most of the words we use as the "english" language evolved from latin

BeerFunk
21-03-2007, 09:37 PM
If I'm to be brutally honest, I'd say 'txt' speak shows a complete lack of effort, and in some cases - respect.

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:37 PM
asked back for an interview ?? it depends on who is reading the application form surely ?

Sorry, but that is complete rubbish.

Basic literacy is the basis for most jobs.

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:38 PM
I say again, they are technically not abbreviations, but acronyms :p :p :D

(Pay attention at the back there! :p :p :p )

and txt spk is largely "phonetics" which is taught in most schools :D

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 09:40 PM
most of the words we use as the "english" language evolved from latin& your point is?

I can think of a few good Anglo Saxon ones too but that doesn't alter the fact that it's English & the English language is what is required on this forum, it is a forum rule & we would appreciate it if members stuck to it.

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:41 PM
Sorry, but that is complete rubbish.

Basic literacy is the basis for most jobs.

not any more ! have you seen the number of people leaving school with nvq's and walking into skilled jobs ?? i once had a pat test certificate issued that was practically illegable yet the guy had passed all his training.

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:42 PM
... and a lot of the problems are down to the 'what does it matter' attitude. I'm sorry, but it DOES matter!

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 09:43 PM
and txt spk is largely "phonetics" which is taught in most schools :D

Which is probably why half the country is ignorant of the difference between Their, There & They're, To, Too & Two, Our, Are & Hour etc etc......

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 09:44 PM
As my learned friend Mr Beerfunk so eloquently put it "'txt' speak shows a complete lack of effort, and in some cases - respect." Also no punctuation whatsoever leaves posts open to misinterpretation, as in:

Wanted piano for old lady with carved legs

This is where argument starts to creep in. As Daz so rightly says, the rules say "NoText speak" If we didn't have rules, where would we be?




























FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!

Paul James Promotions
21-03-2007, 09:45 PM
i find it interesting that all objections so far have come from people over the age of 30

It annoys me ;)

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:45 PM
As my learned friend Mr Beerfunk so eloquently put it "'txt' speak shows a complete lack of effort, and in some cases - respect." Also no punctuation whatsoever leaves posts open to misinterpretation, as in:

Wanted piano for old lady with carved legs

This is where argument starts to creep in. As Daz so rightly says, the rules say "NoText speak" If we didn't have rules, where would we be?




























FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!


And if we had too many rules, where would we be...?

































































Germany! :D

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Maybe Pete, but France has a far better literacy rate than the UK

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:46 PM
This is where argument starts to creep in. As Daz so rightly says, the rules say "NoText speak" If we didn't have rules, where would we be?

i think you will find its "No Text Speak" (s******)

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:46 PM
lol, why has it starred out s n i g g e r ?

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 09:47 PM
This is where argument starts to creep in. As Daz so rightly says, the rules say "NoText speak" If we didn't have rules, where would we be?

i think you will find its "No Text Speak" (s******)

********!

magicfm
21-03-2007, 09:47 PM
Is typing in 'drunk language' okay. Gee I tried doing that the other night while emailing and boy is it hard. It took about an hour to write a four word sentence and it ended up something like this:

esss typeying wile drunnk oooo kkkkkkkk. burppppppppppppp....

:D

(_8())

C U all L8er

Solitaire Events Ltd
21-03-2007, 09:49 PM
Maybe Pete, but France has a far better literacy rate than the UK

You're missing the joke there Steve :rolleyes:

Watch Al Murray and you'll understand. :D :beer1: and a fruit based drink/glass of white wine for the lady.

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 09:49 PM
What *******?

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:49 PM
but the s was typed first ?????

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:50 PM
so i cant type s****** but i can type ******* ?

Penfold42
21-03-2007, 09:51 PM
Hey...rules are rules. Abide by them, you do this everyday why should this be different.
When you drive a car you follow the rules...if everyone chose to ignore that, what a mess....:eek:

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 09:51 PM
:D
You're missing the joke there Steve :rolleyes:

Watch Al Murray and you'll understand. :D :beer1: and a fruit based drink/glass of white wine for the lady.

Guessed you'd be on the same wavelength Daz!:D

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 09:51 PM
Oops - looks like the censor doesn't have that built in to the censor in the singular!

soundscapes
21-03-2007, 09:53 PM
lol is that discriminating against wombles ?

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 09:55 PM
Oops - looks like the censor doesn't have that built in to the censor in the singular!
Bullocks and Bollards!

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 10:03 PM
You're missing the joke there Steve :rolleyes:

Watch Al Murray and you'll understand. :D :beer1: and a fruit based drink/glass of white wine for the lady.

I'd rather not, if it's all the same to you.

(I did get the joke, but chose to point out that another Latin based language seems to be able to do OK)

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm on the verge of asking the other admin & moderators if we can put persistent Txt offenders back in the moderation queue so we don't have to wade through all this illiterate bilge

CRAZY K
21-03-2007, 10:11 PM
If everyone had taken that attitude we would still be speaking latin, everything moves on, even language

I think its more to do with who controlled and ruled England--why do you think theres an awful lot of French words in our language? 1066 and all that!

Text is crammed into a small space for a reason--theres only a small screen and its really harder going typing in full on a mobile ---as well as being charged per page.

E Mails have plenty of space---:D

On the business front I would say if you are corresponding over the Internet with potential customers( as we do every day ) sending out detailed quotes and information you need some kind of decent standard of English and presentation to be credible to get better quality bookings.

Ill forget spelling Rice:eek:

Also I dont see any text speak on Websites---reason anyone?

I dont get generally booked by people under 30 although I "work" with plenty of younger people--certainly none of these bookers use text speak in their emails.

Text language is fine for mobiles---

Just my experience,

CRAZY K

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 10:11 PM
I'm on the verge of asking the other admin & moderators if we can put persistent Txt offenders back in the moderation queue so we don't have to wade through all this illiterate bilge

Gets my vote!

djbigdevs
21-03-2007, 11:04 PM
I personally think writing in text is very clever! As someone has mentioned, language always evolves. Words/spellings get changed and will have different meanings. So text talk gets my support in general (but on here - no! People have voiced their opinions & there are rules for us.)

However there is a time & a place for text talk. You should be able to decide if it is appropriate for the people you are talking to. For example I would have no problem using text talk to my friends but Aunties & Uncles who are considerably older, then I would not use text talk when communicating! It's the same as general talk - such as swearing & bad language and who/when to use it.

Interesting debate though!

L8rs.:p

Danno13
21-03-2007, 11:08 PM
why not add the silly things like "m8" and "gr8" to the censor??? That way it'll force people to type properly else their posts will be (even more) illegible.

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 11:12 PM
and sk&ter boi! Its not even shorter for goodness sake! Well said Danno - just shows not all spotty's are brain dead chavs!

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 11:13 PM
:lol: Talk about a back-handed compliment Pete!!!!! :eek: :D

Danno13
21-03-2007, 11:18 PM
LOL! Thnx m8.

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 11:21 PM
Why not go the whole hog?

There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie and Dim and we sat in the Korova milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova Milk Bar sold milkplus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence. Our pockets were full of money so there was no need on that score, but, as they say, money isn't everything.

Anthony Burgess wud b proud :dhttp://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif:d

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 11:26 PM
Ah spiky Moloko, my Droog!

Shaun
21-03-2007, 11:28 PM
There's a time and a place for text abbreviations, save it for when you're on your mobile phone.

It's annoying and aggrivating (especially when we're constantly asking people not to use it).

The forum rules are what they are. "When in Rome......"

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 11:30 PM
Just as an example of what I mentioned earlier: one of the people who registered on the forum today is from Slovakia, and another is from Holland.

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 11:36 PM
and don't forget Mr Sheen!!

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 11:39 PM
Deep Level hasn't been on for a while has he?

soundtracker
21-03-2007, 11:41 PM
Thank you Lord!................... anyone know where I can get a cheap Denon?

Corabar Entertainment
21-03-2007, 11:42 PM
...and don't forget Mars - who's also from The Netherlands

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 11:43 PM
& don't forget most American members won't even know what we mean by mobile phone :dhttp://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif:d

PropellerHeadCase
21-03-2007, 11:47 PM
How the hell is abbreviated words and being too lazy to type properly, moving on?:mad:

I refer you to your dictionary and the word fo'c'sle :D

Corabar Steve
21-03-2007, 11:52 PM
Sailors are lazy gits & that proves it:dhttp://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif:d

Marc J
22-03-2007, 07:49 AM
Text speak on forums is just wrong!

But it could be worse, the pesky youngsters could use Leet-Speak....

+h3 \/\/0R|< 0F T|-|3 |)3Vil!!!!!oneone

Then we wouldn't have a clue what they're saying :)


asked back for an interview ?? it depends on who is reading the application form surely ? eventually the type and age group of people who use this will find their way into management.
Less used than text speak, but a "sub language" all the same (mostly used by gamers if you don't know), and by this logic it's only a matter of time until it's a requirement for a job...

Dragonfly
22-03-2007, 08:09 AM
and sk&ter boi! Its not even shorter for goodness sake! Well said Danno - just shows not all spotty's are brain dead chavs!

soundtracker if you are going to do it at least do it right :D :D :D

it's not sk&er that would be sk and ter

it's sk8er as in eight :D :D :D

by crikey the olds of today :D :D :D :D :beer1: :beer1:







im already in the taxi no need to fuss.

soundtracker
22-03-2007, 08:31 AM
soundtracker if you are going to do it at least do it right :D :D :D

it's not sk&er that would be sk and ter

it's sk8er as in eight :D :D :D

by crikey the olds of today :D :D :D :D :beer1: :beer1:






im already in the taxi no need to fuss.

I will be checking all of your future posts with a fine toothed comb for typing errors!

Vectis
22-03-2007, 08:39 AM
I refer you to your dictionary and the word fo'c'sle :D


Confused... if the rules were applied properly, then surely it should be fo'c's'le? :confused:


Incidentally, this thread reminded me of Reibadailty. The randomising of letters in the middle of words. Scroll down and read the sentence below as quickly as you can. Then go back and look at it carefully...



















Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

PropellerHeadCase
22-03-2007, 09:35 AM
Confused... if the rules were applied properly, then surely it should be fo'c's'le? :confused:

You would've thought so, maybe it's something to do with the fact that the 'T' was silent to begin with.

L337 sp3a|< 15 Fu|\| :D

Maybe I should start typing in cryptic crossword clue format :eek: :confused: :D

sleah
22-03-2007, 10:42 AM
It is also worrying that it is becoming increasingly clear that many people have no idea that the way things are written in 'txt speak' is not how it's supposed to be written!!!!!!!

True!


and txt spk is largely "phonetics" which is taught in most schools :D

Someone mentioned 'moving on'. It took years for language to evolve from primative grunts, so how is going back to that 'moving on'? :D
And if we wrote in phonetics, words and sentances would be much much longer! So to say txt speak is based on phoetics is wrong surely?
Even 'txt' is NOT phonetc!! Te'c'st is more phonetic.....

And how the hell did they arrive at Boi (as in sk8tr boi) from boy????
one floats and the other makes alot of noise and smells.:confused:


I'm on the verge of asking the other admin & moderators if we can put persistent Txt offenders back in the moderation queue so we don't have to wade through all this illiterate bilge

Yeah!

BeerFunk
22-03-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm on the verge of asking the other admin & moderators if we can put persistent Txt offenders back in the moderation queue so we don't have to wade through all this illiterate bilge
Yeah, and you might want to consider those that don't know how to use comma's and full stops! (no excuse - it is taught at primary school level I believe!) :)

Solitaire Events Ltd
22-03-2007, 12:04 PM
Yeah, and you might want to consider those that don't know how to use comma's and full stops! (no excuse - it is taught at primary school level I believe!) :)

Yeah, but for some of us, that was a long while ago! ;)

sleah
22-03-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, but for some of us, that was a long while ago! ;)

Yaeh but, no but, yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but :D :D :D

Dragonfly
22-03-2007, 01:08 PM
anyway shaaaaaatttt aaaap .... :D :D :D :D

Corabar Steve
22-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Oi, Dragonfly, NO!

Stormin' Si
22-03-2007, 06:16 PM
Try talking in binary...

01001110011011110111011100100000011101000110100001 10000101110100011100110010000001101000011000010111 00100110010000100001

soundtracker
22-03-2007, 06:26 PM
Try talking in binary...

01001110011011110111011100100000011101000110100001 10000101110100011100110010000001101000011000010111 00100110010000100001

Stupid Boy!!!

Corabar Entertainment
22-03-2007, 06:30 PM
Is that the translation Pete? :p :p :p

soundtracker
22-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Near enough!

Stormin' Si
22-03-2007, 06:41 PM
Nope, Stupid Boy is the wrong translation :P

Marc J
22-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Now that's hard!

Marc J
22-03-2007, 07:36 PM
Oh-oh, looks like MDD has decided to use Leet-Speak after all!

www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk (http://www.degraeve.com/cgi-bin/babel.cgi?d=haxor&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmobilediscodirectory.co.uk&w=)

Corabar Steve
22-03-2007, 07:54 PM
Stupid boy was the wrong translation, but the joke was hilarious :d

Stormin' Si
22-03-2007, 09:54 PM
Now that's hard!

Correct :)

soundscapes
23-03-2007, 09:34 AM
so why dont we just add the "txt" abbreviations to the censor then we dont have the situation as we have had before where new members join and post in txt speak and then get ripped apart and branded stupid and rude (what usually happens is that one moderator will post advising them not to use txt speak, then another few people will post saying its ignorant, rude, stupid etc..) hardly a warm welcome ?

Corabar Steve
23-03-2007, 10:11 AM
Because if it was added to the auto censor instead of say....ppl all you would get is *** . Can't see that working

soundtracker
23-03-2007, 11:00 AM
so why dont we just add the "txt" abbreviations to the censor then we dont have the situation as we have had before where new members join and post in txt speak and then get ripped apart and branded stupid and rude (what usually happens is that one moderator will post advising them not to use txt speak, then another few people will post saying its ignorant, rude, stupid etc..) hardly a warm welcome ?

Why do we have to be nice all of the time? To be honest it really annoys me when people make no effort at all with their posts. It makes me wonder how they cope with answering e-mails and typing contracts. I certainly wouldn't consider employing anybody without a rudimentary understanding of the English language, and I'm sure that other people feel the same way.
If someone posts on here a rig photo, with wires cascading everywhere, they get slaughtered. But in reality, if that makes them think about improving the situation, then its been worthwhile.Same principle with typing - why let yourself down, for the sake of a little effort!

Paul James Promotions
23-03-2007, 11:11 AM
Agreed

PropellerHeadCase
23-03-2007, 12:18 PM
*Standing ovation*

Author! Author!

Shaun
23-03-2007, 12:21 PM
Oh-oh, looks like MDD has decided to use Leet-Speak after all!

www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk (http://www.degraeve.com/cgi-bin/babel.cgi?d=haxor&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmobilediscodirectory.co.uk&w=)

It's the future! :D

Dragonfly
23-03-2007, 12:28 PM
It's the future! :D

No !!!!! I think you'll find thats garlic bread...

Shaun
23-03-2007, 12:30 PM
so why dont we just add the "txt" abbreviations to the censor then we dont have the situation as we have had before where new members join and post in txt speak and then get ripped apart and branded stupid and rude (what usually happens is that one moderator will post advising them not to use txt speak, then another few people will post saying its ignorant, rude, stupid etc..) hardly a warm welcome ?

I understand what you're saying. BUT, it's every members responsibility to adhere to the guidlines of the site they're visiting. When I join any forum I always have a quick look through the rules to be on the safe side. The site staff are only human too, and it gets extremely frustrating at times when we constantly have to regurgitate the forum rules time and time again. In my opinion it is rude if they blatantly ignore or disregard the advice they are given. It only takes a few minutes to look through the forum rules. If all new members would do so then we wouldn't have the issue you brought up.

Shaun
23-03-2007, 12:31 PM
No !!!!! I think you'll find thats garlic bread...

:lol:

theoloyla
23-03-2007, 01:07 PM
I have just read all of the posts on this thread and my view is: -
I am an old fart but txt spelling doesnt really bother me that much provided I can understand it. What I do hate is bad grammar and punctuation. So many times I see people write "I could of done it" on this site when they mean "I could HAVE done it". As has been said the ability of whether and when to use there, their, they're or effect and affect are far more important than someone spelling mate "m8".
You all use this term "lol". I have been contributing to this forum for a long time now and I still have absolutely no idea what it means. Does it mean "lots of love"?
I am a law abiding person. I dont break speed limits, pay my taxes, etc etc BUT all laws and rules should be open to challenge and question. There are loads of laws in the English statute book that are no longer enforced as the breaking of them has just become accepted over the years and they become unenforceable.

Shaun
23-03-2007, 01:10 PM
You all use this term "lol". I have been contributing to this forum for a long time now and I still have absolutely no idea what it means. Does it mean "lots of love"?


Laugh out loud / laughing out loud.

theoloyla
23-03-2007, 01:16 PM
Oh! You've all been having a giraffe eh?

Solitaire Events Ltd
23-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Oh! You've all been having a giraffe eh?

Or a steffi! :p

PropellerHeadCase
23-03-2007, 07:52 PM
And for Theo's benefit:

ROFL - Rolling on the Floor Laughing
+
LMAO - Laughing My [behind] Off
=
ROFLMAO

IIRC - If I Recall Correctly

STFU - Shut the [heck] Up

And in some forums...

NSFW - Not Safe for Work

Danno13
23-03-2007, 08:06 PM
and don't forget

Tbh - To be honest

IMO - In my opinion

PropellerHeadCase
23-03-2007, 10:38 PM
Indeed.

I'm not the biggest fan of txt spk but I find people who write all in CAPITALS to be MORE OF A PAIN and, as Theo mentioned, the whole "would of/could of" thing. Not to mention the nonces that can't sort our then/than.

The odd textual contraction is OK, I suppose, but clarity should not be the victim. Dropping vowels for the sake of it is just lazy.

And no-one likes to find an unexpected vowel movement :o

Dragonfly
24-03-2007, 01:41 AM
Indeed.

I'm not the biggest fan of txt spk but I find people who write all in CAPITALS to be MORE OF A PAIN and, as Theo mentioned, the whole "would of/could of" thing. Not to mention the nonces that can't sort our then/than.

The odd textual contraction is OK, I suppose, but clarity should not be the victim. Dropping vowels for the sake of it is just lazy.

And no-one likes to find an unexpected vowel movement :o

try living in the midlands over here ...... vowels have been removed from the dictionary taken into the street clubbed with a herring and then shot.

theoloyla
24-03-2007, 10:41 AM
And for Theo's benefit:

ROFL - Rolling on the Floor Laughing
+
LMAO - Laughing My [behind] Off
=
ROFLMAO

IIRC - If I Recall Correctly

STFU - Shut the [heck] Up

And in some forums...

NSFW - Not Safe for Work

Thankyou. I wondered about them too whereas I can usually translate txtspeak. I had figured out IMHO and tbh.

Paul James Promotions
24-03-2007, 11:53 AM
And for Theo's benefit:

ROFL - Rolling on the Floor Laughing
+
LMAO - Laughing My [behind] Off
=
ROFLMAO

IIRC - If I Recall Correctly

STFU - Shut the [heck] Up

And in some forums...

NSFW - Not Safe for Work

...and not forgetting the good old 'RTFM' :D

theoloyla
24-03-2007, 11:57 AM
...and not forgetting the good old 'RTFM' :D
Rather tight for me?

Corabar Entertainment
24-03-2007, 12:23 PM
One for you Theo.........

TTFN :D :D

PropellerHeadCase
24-03-2007, 07:27 PM
try living in the midlands over here ...... vowels have been removed from the dictionary taken into the street clubbed with a herring and then shot.

It's a conspiracy by the Welsh and the Polish.

Penfold42
24-03-2007, 09:15 PM
Da hwyr dyma beth destun areithia cadernid cystal bod at rhyw chennym.

This has got me going around the twist here...but what does this actual mean....just interested.

Corabar Steve
25-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Something along the lines of this is how text speak looks to the majority of us

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 05:03 PM
One for you Theo.........

TTFN :D :D
Now that's one I DO understand.

Dragonfly
25-03-2007, 05:06 PM
Looks more like welsh to me? :D :D :D :D

Corabar Steve
25-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Looks more like welsh to me? :D :D :D :D

It is, my point was if we allow text speak we may as well allow other languages, so that those of us that can't comprehend txt spk m8 will be on an even footing with those that can.

If those that persist inusing txt spk don't like me posting in Welsh, then why should they think it's acceptable to use something else that's not English (ie text speak).

Jiggles
25-03-2007, 05:34 PM
Well Steve what you have said that we Scots shouldn't speak Scots then! Nae mare Ayes!!!

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 05:34 PM
It is, my point was if we allow text speak we may as well allow other languages, so that those of us that can't comprehend txt spk m8 will be on an even footing with those that can.

If those that persist inusing txt spk don't like me posting in Welsh, then why should they think it's acceptable to use something else that's not English (ie text speak).
It depends on whether it is intelligable and, as I have said, I had no idea what LOL meant but L8r was easily understood even by an old codger like me.

Corabar Entertainment
25-03-2007, 05:40 PM
But could you imagine reading post after post after post on the forum if it was ALL in text language??? Irritating, to say the least and certainly not as readable as if it were written in full.

If you allow a little, you have to allow a lot, so it's far easier to just say don't use it - which the rules do.

The acronyms generally used on forums are usually just stock phrases and, even if you don't know their meaning, it doesn't prevent you comprehending the thread.

Marc J
25-03-2007, 05:40 PM
I think what we have here is a clashing of two things which are major contributors to the state the country is in in today: -

1. Illiteracy
2. Bureaucracy

Interesting how the forum can be a microcosm of the nation :rolleyes:

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 05:52 PM
I fink the moderater's could of spent there thyme far more affectively by trying to correct poor use of the English language

Dragonfly
25-03-2007, 05:53 PM
I fink the moderater's could of spent there thyme far more affectively by trying to correct poor use of the English language

Is that could of ? or could have? :D :D :D :D

Marc J
25-03-2007, 05:55 PM
Must....resist....

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 05:59 PM
Is that could of ? or could have? :D :D :D :D

Ohm8. I thought you would have seen through that one but it affectively seems to have past u bye!

Dragonfly
25-03-2007, 06:00 PM
It did but only on the first reading as did thyme :D :D

Marc J
25-03-2007, 06:02 PM
I fink the moderater's could of spent there thyme far more affectively by trying to correct poor use of the English language

Any advance on 8 errors?

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 06:05 PM
It did but only on the first reading as did thyme :D :D

Thank goodness! I almost had doubts about you for a moment!

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 06:08 PM
Any advance on 8 errors?

Marc. You've got me. I thought I only wrote 7. What did I do wrong to make 8.

Marc J
25-03-2007, 06:16 PM
1. fink = think (spelling)
2. & 3. moderater's = moderators (spelling & punctation)
4. could of = could have (grammar)
5. there = their (spelling / grammar)
6. thyme - time (spelling)
7. affectively - effectively (spelling / grammar)
8. No full stop (punctuation) :p

Dragonfly
25-03-2007, 06:20 PM
yep.

theoloyla
25-03-2007, 06:32 PM
1. fink = think (spelling)
2. & 3. moderater's = moderators (spelling & punctation)
4. could of = could have (grammar)
5. there = their (spelling / grammar)
6. thyme - time (spelling)
7. affectively - effectively (spelling / grammar)
8. No full stop (punctuation) :p
Aha! Missed the last one. That was unintentional. Slap on the wrist!

Corabar Steve
25-03-2007, 06:55 PM
For a moment then I fought it was contagious.



Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggh!!! http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/scared/scared0011.gif

Dragonfly
25-03-2007, 06:57 PM
For a moment then I fought it was contagious.



Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggh!!! http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/scared/scared0011.gif

innit :D :D :D :D

Corabar Steve
25-03-2007, 07:03 PM
Izzz it http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/scorchio/sgrin.gif

Shaun
25-03-2007, 07:06 PM
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m2/nov2005/2/2/000A9F20-E1EE-1382-A0520C01AC1BF814.jpg

Corabar Steve
25-03-2007, 07:18 PM
Does that face look bovvered? :d

sleah
25-03-2007, 09:47 PM
Because if it was added to the auto censor instead of say....ppl all you would get is *** . Can't see that working

As it's pendantic weekend here on the forum:D , the way round that is to write it P.P.L.
I assume we mean ppl to be Phonographic Performance Limited ?


You all use this term "lol". I have been contributing to this forum for a long time now and I still have absolutely no idea what it means. Does it mean "lots of love"?

Embarrasingly, I originaly thought it meant "Little Old Lady":o :o :o


...and not forgetting the good old 'RTFM' :D

Beat me to it!!!!
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