Mackie,s or Ev,s

[drb]

Whats better? Mackie 450,s or EV SX300?
I,d be using the Mackie Bass bins with the tops or the EV bass bins with it,s tops.Is there a difference as one is active and one is passive.
I,m asking as i really want a quality sound.No distortion.Loud but a bit of depth too.I,d probably use the bins come "drunk Time" (!) but use the tops for backgound at the beginning.
This thread could cause a few "heated" arguments BUT i have noticed a few dealers on this forum who listen to products side by side

[gillo]

Whats better? Mackie 450,s or EV SX300?
I,d be using the Mackie Bass bins with the tops or the EV bass bins with it,s tops.Is there a difference as one is active and one is passive.
I,m asking as i really want a quality sound.No distortion.Loud but a bit of depth too.I,d probably use the bins come "drunk Time" (!) but use the tops for backgound at the beginning.
This thread could cause a few "heated" arguments BUT i have noticed a few dealers on this forum who listen to products side by side

450s great speaker a-b tested one against an sx 300 the sx 300 had a bit more punch which really isnt important when your using bass bins but the 450s have a very nice crisp sound plus are approx the same price and you get built in amplifiers which are designed to run efficiently with each speaker transducer to get the best combination.

[Harrison's Discos]

Now this is true..

At the theatre a few weeks ago we were using our mackie SRM450's with the SWA1501 bins (11 tops in total and 5 bins) and after a performance from a live music show, we noticed two horns had blown. This was very annoying as the speakers were not even being peaked or maxed out. Its on a few occasions that we do live music shows and just goes to show that mackies are useless at live music.
If you want to have any live music bands at any of your gigs.. avoid mackie at all costs ;)

If it was me, id go for the Ev's as they have been in the business longer and cost a lot more aswell! Well providing your budgets not tight.

[BeerFunk]

I was under the impression that Mackie supply a lot of equipment to bands, singers and karaoke shows? I have always seen Peavey in the same light too

[Harrison's Discos]

I was under the impression that Mackie supply a lot of equipment to bands, singers and karaoke shows? I have always seen Peavey in the same light too

Hmm.. well it has happened on a number of occasions with speakers blowing with live bands. It must just be the miskins luck or something :D .
A few others i have spoke to have also said mackie are not that brilliant with 'live' sound.
Well, if i ever need speakers for a live band, i wouldnt be in a rush to buy mackies thats all.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

A few others i have spoke to have also said mackie are not that brilliant with 'live' sound.
Well, if i ever need speakers for a live band, i wouldnt be in a rush to buy mackies thats all.

The first time i heard the 450s, they were being used by a band and I was very impressed.

I use both EV and Mackie and like them both.

You need to go and listen to them and then make your choice.

[Steve 'B']

If you can get hold of the old Mackie 450's with the RCF drivers I would suggest them but the new ones! No way. Stick with EV.

[Harrison's Discos]

The first time i heard the 450s, they were being used by a band and I was very impressed.

I use both EV and Mackie and like them both.

You need to go and listen to them and then make your choice.

Im not saying they are bad speakers in sound quality, im just saying the tweeters on them must be vunerable to strong frequences like the symbols on a drum kit or something. Yes, they are brilliant sounding speakers, but the tweeters must be awfully delicate on them to blow like they have done.

[Paul James Promotions]

Im not saying they are bad speakers in sound quality, im just saying the tweeters on them must be vunerable to strong frequences like the symbols on a drum kit or something. Yes, they are brilliant sounding speakers, but the tweeters must be awfully delicate on them to blow like they have done.

Maybe a distorted signal from the mixer?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Im not saying they are bad speakers in sound quality, im just saying the tweeters on them must be vunerable to strong frequences like the symbols on a drum kit or something. Yes, they are brilliant sounding speakers, but the tweeters must be awfully delicate on them to blow like they have done.

They don't have tweeters, they have compression horns.

The amps also have compressors built in, so you'd need to really thrash them long term for anything like that to happen.

Or maybe they just had a dodgy set.

Why would you mic up a drum kit through a FOH PA?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Maybe a distorted signal from the mixer?

Or that. ;)

[Harrison's Discos]

No guys :)

I can assure you that a professional sound engerneer was controlling the desk and he made sure there were no distorted sound signals of any sort.

It's really down to the speakers. The tweeters inside them seem to be 'delicate' and do not like the frequences produced from symbols on a drum kit. It has happened twice within 5 months, and is related to drum symbols.. how strange :confused:

[Paul James Promotions]

For live bands, especially in large venues, you need a big system.

Compression drivers will fail if you are pushing them too hard.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

No guys :)

I can assure you that a professional sound engerneer was controlling the desk and he made sure there were no distorted sound signals of any sort.

It's really down to the speakers. The tweeters inside them seem to be 'delicate' and do not like the frequences produced from symbols on a drum kit. It has happened twice within 5 months, and is related to drum symbols.. how strange :confused:

It's not down to the speakers, it's down to the people controlling them and the input.

[Harrison's Discos]

For live bands, especially in large venues, you need a big system.

Compression drivers will fail if you are pushing them too hard.

I have already explained on the previous page that they were not driven hard at all.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have already explained on the previous page that they were not driven hard at all.

Well, they must have a faulty set then.

I've never had any problems with mine, nor have the other 3 who work for me who use them.

[Harrison's Discos]

Well, they must have a faulty set then.

I've never had any problems with mine, nor have the other 3 who work for me who use them.

Maybe, but they were all out of the box brand new prior to use.

They never get driven hard because our theatre knows that if they are driven hard and they blow.. the money will not come from a local tree plant.;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Maybe, but they were all out of the box brand new prior to use.

They never get driven hard because our theatre knows that if they are driven hard and they blow.. the money will not come from a local tree plant.;)

I would email Mackie and explain the problem. :)

[Harrison's Discos]

I would. Thing is its not my problem really. Its up to the sound manager wether or not he does it or not. He's just happy to replace the horn if they blow... fair play if he wants to waste money :D

(hes not really that nice of a person :zip: )

[gillo]

maybe they werent run in properly..................