View Full Version : Impressive or too much?
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 01:10 PM
Still finalising my trussing / lighting stand options.
Would this be considered over the top or bloody fantastic?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230130412283&rd=1&rd=1
ross@rds
21-05-2007, 01:12 PM
Its nice i like it i dont think it would be good for discos but if you do light hire for small concerts etc then it would be good for that kind of thing.
Shaun
21-05-2007, 01:19 PM
Personally....I think it's awesome!!. Not too sure how many gigs you could actually use it, but it's definitely an eye-catching focal point for those BIG events. I LIKE IT!!
Paul James Promotions
21-05-2007, 01:29 PM
Spotted that yesterday, not bad, but too high for most ceilings I would have thought.
Adam_F
21-05-2007, 01:34 PM
I think it looks awesome too, but it wouldn't fit in a lot of places :(
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Spotted that yesterday, not bad, but too high for most ceilings I would have thought.
How easy do you think it would be to change and fit in smaller venues then?
I am assuming it will go for way to much money, but if I think about how much I am planning to spend on a set of powerdrive winch stands and trilite, I'm guessing this would work out about the same sort of price?
2.7m isn't really that tall is it, I'm sure I usually winch my current stands up to that sort of height. I think the main issue was the width - 5.7m. Not sure that would fit, but couldn't I set it up over the dance floor instead of over me?
Marc J
21-05-2007, 01:49 PM
Impressive? Lets just say I want one, and I have absolutely no need for it whatsoever :)
Tony Scott
21-05-2007, 01:54 PM
I love it. I want it! How much longer would it add to the setting-up time though? Takes me 2hrs for my big rig already, this would just get silly.
Silver
21-05-2007, 02:16 PM
Cool and you could always kick off your gig with ................................... Underneath the arches (joke for old gits only!) http://planetsmilies.net/music-smiley-1302.gif
Tony Scott
21-05-2007, 02:21 PM
just driven past a circus in bridport, they've got two of these babies supporting thier front signage, bout the same size!
Tony Scott
21-05-2007, 02:29 PM
Cool and you could always kick off your gig with ................................... Underneath the arches (joke for old gits only!) http://planetsmilies.net/music-smiley-1302.gif
.........how silver are you?.....lol
rob1963
21-05-2007, 02:47 PM
The words "top", "over" & "the" come to mind! :D
rob1963
21-05-2007, 02:51 PM
How much longer would it add to the setting-up time though? Takes me 2hrs for my big rig already.
Just what I was wondering!
It has 12 individual pieces you have to bolt together - nightmare!
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 03:06 PM
Just what I was wondering!
It has 12 individual pieces you have to bolt together - nightmare!
Ah but don't you think it would look awesome and in fact very very different from anything else anyone else could do?
Still have a feeling it'll go way past my budget!
Shaun
21-05-2007, 03:08 PM
Ah but don't you think it would look awesome and in fact very very different from anything else anyone else could do?
I think so. It certainly has the 'WOW' factor!.
CRAZY K
21-05-2007, 03:18 PM
:D
Ah but don't you think it would look awesome and in fact very very different from anything else anyone else could do?
Still have a feeling it'll go way past my budget!
From a business point of view heres some searching questions--
How many venues will it fit into? How many times will it stay at home?
How will you cope if the Roadie goes sick and you have to put it up yourself?
How many Marquees will it fit into----none mostly and thats where theres a lot of money for Weddings, if they can afford a proper marquee your in the right client bracket :D
How long to set up and take down--this is for a Band--they have 5 or six people to do that--extra Roadies needed?
How many venues get awkward about getting cleared out the place by a certain time--lots in my experience--this isnt going to speed things up.
How much room in the van--will it fit?
How much more money will you make using it? If you can?
How will you demo it to potential customers?
A photo or vid isnt going to really show it in its BEST LIGHT --alright ill get my coat!
CRAZY K
Tony Scott
21-05-2007, 03:20 PM
I think so. It certainly has the 'WOW' factor!.
Yeah, ''WOW'' look how tiny the dj & all his other kit looks under that wembley sized arch LOL!!!!!
Still want one!!!
rob1963
21-05-2007, 03:21 PM
It certainly has the 'WOW' factor!.
It would definately have the "WOW" factor with the clients.....
.....they'd say "WOW - it's been 3 hours & you're STILL setting up!"
:p
On a serious note, it looks great, but in the real world we both know it's completely impractical!
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 03:31 PM
It would definately have the "WOW" factor with the clients.....
.....they'd say "WOW - it's been 3 hours & you're STILL setting up!"
:p
On a serious note, it looks great, but in the real world it's completely impractical!
You see and herein lies part of the problem. Not really the how long would it take to set up, but maybe the market that is dictating the gig? I would guess, if I was doing Funky house nights, or large corporate functions, or playing alongside bands, there would be absolutely no question about this set up. To be fair I have been toying with the idea of a smaller "goalpost" made up from just trussing anyway. But actually, when you get to the really well paid and high end wedding work, a lot of them don't actually even expect or consider that you might have lighting anyway, let alone a wembley sized arrangement.
I wonder if the top end wedding market are actually sending out the "less is more" message. After all I already know that most clients couldn't give a stuff about the lights.
However I am extremely tempted - someone put me off a little more (or encourage me).
However if you're going to encourage me, maybe those who have already decided to bid on it would like to hold there hands up?
By the way Crazy, would you be able to pick it up for me - local to you isn't it? LOL!
Silver
21-05-2007, 03:34 PM
.........how silver are you?.....lol
Errrrrrrr a tad more silver than you! It must be the Dorset air, WATCH OUT! http://planetsmilies.net/ill-violated-dead-smiley-5383.gif
Discodaz
21-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Impressive? Lets just say I want one, and I have absolutely no need for it whatsoever :)
Exactly what I was thinking!
Just had a thought...why don't those who want it, club together and buy it. It won't get used a lot, but it's gonna be there if a big gig comes along or maybe a summer fete.
Just a thought.
Dragonfly
21-05-2007, 03:47 PM
"Ladies and gentlemen welcome to Wembley"
rob1963
21-05-2007, 04:21 PM
However I am extremely tempted - someone put me off a little more (or encourage me).
Don't do it, Ricesnaps!
I refer you to the answer given by Crazy K some moments ago.
Move along please, there's nothing to see here!
By the way Ricesnaps, I found the perfect smileys (below) to represent you & me.....I'm sure they were created just for us, lol!
:argue:
Tony Scott
21-05-2007, 04:24 PM
It must be the Dorset air, WATCH OUT! http://planetsmilies.net/ill-violated-dead-smiley-5383.gif
lol........it's gonna get me sooner or later!
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 04:38 PM
By the way Ricesnaps, I found the perfect smileys (below) to represent you & me.....I'm sure they were created just for us, lol!
:argue:
Isn't ther one like that with the other smiley just not listening?
rob1963
21-05-2007, 05:34 PM
Isn't there one like that with the other smiley just not listening?
:eek: :eek: :eek:
CRAZY K
21-05-2007, 05:38 PM
You see and herein lies part of the problem. Not really the how long would it take to set up, but maybe the market that is dictating the gig? I would guess, if I was doing Funky house nights, or large corporate functions, or playing alongside bands, there would be absolutely no question about this set up. To be fair I have been toying with the idea of a smaller "goalpost" made up from just trussing anyway. But actually, when you get to the really well paid and high end wedding work, a lot of them don't actually even expect or consider that you might have lighting anyway, let alone a wembley sized arrangement.
I wonder if the top end wedding market are actually sending out the "less is more" message. After all I already know that most clients couldn't give a stuff about the lights.
However I am extremely tempted - someone put me off a little more (or encourage me).
However if you're going to encourage me, maybe those who have already decided to bid on it would like to hold there hands up?
By the way Crazy, would you be able to pick it up for me - local to you isn't it? LOL!
Noticed that--how many roadies can you spare:D :D :D
CRAZY K
Corabar Steve
21-05-2007, 07:22 PM
Isn't ther one like that with the other smiley just not listening?
I was thinking more this http://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1479.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)
Jiggles
21-05-2007, 07:33 PM
I Would Love It!!! :d:d
Corabar Steve
21-05-2007, 07:36 PM
It's not a climbing frame Callum :sj:
Jiggles
21-05-2007, 07:46 PM
It's not a climbing frame Callum :sj:
Awww :(:(:(:( :sad: :sad: :sad: :cry: :cry:
:D:D:D:D:D:D
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 07:48 PM
So seriously, should I go for it?
funkymike
21-05-2007, 07:50 PM
So seriously, should I go for it?
might be a bidding war, kinda like it myself, be super for karaoke:D
Shaun
21-05-2007, 07:50 PM
So seriously, should I go for it?
If you can justify the cost (bearing in mind you may only have limited use of it due to it's size) I would say go for it. It looks very impressive.
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 07:57 PM
might be a bidding war, kinda like it myself, be super for karaoke:D
So what's your maximum price so I know if it's worth me bidding. Or are you not really seriously
Corabar Steve
21-05-2007, 07:57 PM
If you can justify the cost (bearing in mind you may only have limited use of it due to it's size) I would say go for it. It looks very impressive.What he said ^
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 07:58 PM
If you can justify the cost (bearing in mind you may only have limited use of it due to it's size) I would say go for it. It looks very impressive.
I'm thinking, maybe keep my cheepo skytronic imitation truss and get this instead of upgrading it. Then I still have a smaller rig in case it won't fit?
Jiggles
21-05-2007, 07:59 PM
Now think too your self DO YOU really need it?
Shaun
21-05-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm thinking, maybe keep my cheepo skytronic imitation truss and get this instead of upgrading it. Then I still have a smaller rig in case it won't fit?
Sounds like a plan. If the item wasn't 'pick up only', I'd be bidding too. :D
Ricesnaps
21-05-2007, 08:02 PM
Now think too your self DO YOU really need it?
Interesting thought. The honest answer is I DO need a new goalpost / lighting support and I WAS planning to spend about £450 on that.
However, It'll probably go for way more than I can afford, but the thoughts there
Corabar Steve
21-05-2007, 08:07 PM
When you consider that most Ultimax / Giraffe style stands have the cross bar at around 6'6" - 7' high (minimum) & a double decker bus is approx 30' long, it's not that big.
secretDISCO
21-05-2007, 08:13 PM
I already have one of these......bought an old nightclub circle and modified it slightly than the one it on e-bay.
it has it's plus and minuses.
on the plus side it looks great in a large hall and mine is broken into 5 parts which takes 15/20 mins to erect
the downfall is having to go to every function suite before hand with a measuring tape
i must be honest and say its plain simple laziness that keeps it hanging in the outhouse most of the time.
i never paid half what its at on e-bay right now so i would call it a good investment at the time.
Oh and you need to have a set of ladders with you and a strong head for heights
hope this helps rice:D
CRAZY K
21-05-2007, 08:29 PM
I already have one of these......bought an old nightclub circle and modified it slightly than the one it on e-bay.
it has it's plus and minuses.
on the plus side it looks great in a large hall and mine is broken into 5 parts which takes 15/20 mins to erect
the downfall is having to go to every function suite before hand with a measuring tape
i must be honest and say its plain simple laziness that keeps it hanging in the outhouse most of the time.
i never paid half what its at on e-bay right now so i would call it a good investment at the time.
Oh and you need to have a set of ladders with you and a strong head for heights
hope this helps rice:D
And how many Roadies??:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
CRAZY K
Jiggles
21-05-2007, 08:34 PM
And how many Roadies??:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
CRAZY K
You and your Roadies :D:D:D:D:p :p
flatliners
21-05-2007, 08:57 PM
what people havent thought about is getting the lights up on the rig you might have to use a ladder and more than to steps up a ladder then its a health and saftey issue
secretDISCO
21-05-2007, 09:17 PM
NO just me and the wife (theres a joke in there somewhere)
BUT and its a BIG BUT
I have to run 2 steel wired lines from both legs and has to be taped or covered fully with rubber mats.
The guy i bought this off of has another one for sale as he works for a company that does disco installations on a regular basis.
funkymike
22-05-2007, 06:38 AM
So what's your maximum price so I know if it's worth me bidding. Or are you not really seriously
Thought about it, no, you go for it:D
Ricesnaps
22-05-2007, 07:25 AM
NO just me and the wife (theres a joke in there somewhere)
BUT and its a BIG BUT
I have to run 2 steel wired lines from both legs and has to be taped or covered fully with rubber mats.
The guy i bought this off of has another one for sale as he works for a company that does disco installations on a regular basis.
The auction does state that this is completely free standing and won't move, so I am going with that!
If I don't get it, does the guy you know have similar for sale? Cheaper?
PropellerHeadCase
22-05-2007, 08:01 AM
I found the joke you were looking for...
Presto-charango ;)
(theres a joke in there somewhere)
NO just me and the wife
BUT and it's a BIG BUT
CRAZY K
22-05-2007, 09:03 AM
:D :D
NO just me and the wife (theres a joke in there somewhere)
BUT and its a BIG BUT
I have to run 2 steel wired lines from both legs and has to be taped or covered fully with rubber mats.
The guy i bought this off of has another one for sale as he works for a company that does disco installations on a regular basis.
Matt isnt there a clue there?
does disco installations on a regular basis
Isnt this more for a permanent fixed location like a Club--not mobile work?
Unless you have a gang of Roadies:D :D :D
CRAZY K
Ricesnaps
22-05-2007, 09:21 AM
:D :D
Matt isnt there a clue there?
does disco installations on a regular basis
Isnt this more for a permanent fixed location like a Club--not mobile work?
Unless you have a gang of Roadies:D :D :D
CRAZY K
I have asked the seller lots of questions. He tells me that one person can put it up in about 20 - 30 mins. I have a roadie so should imagine it'll be quicker.
The seller also uses it for a touring band - so it's up and down each time it's used.
I have taken on board your comments, but to be fair this is almost exactly what I wanted to do eventually anyway.
What's the worst that can happen, it's crap, I can't use it anywhere and I have to sell it on?
CRAZY K
22-05-2007, 11:13 AM
14751]I have asked the seller lots of questions. He tells me that one person can put it up in about 20 - 30 mins. I have a roadie so should imagine it'll be quicker.
The seller also uses it for a touring band - so it's up and down each time it's used.
I have taken on board your comments, but to be fair this is almost exactly what I wanted to do eventually anyway.
Listen Matt, as its Northampton and I need a good laugh--get him to give a set up and pull down demo and ill go along for you, maybe Spin might be around as well with a stopwatch--
What's the worst that can happen, it's crap, I can't use it anywhere and I have to sell it on?[/QUOTE]
Good luck with it anyway--selling it on---now thats yet another completely different problem :eek:
CRAZY K
Ricesnaps
22-05-2007, 03:40 PM
Well gentlemen and Crazy...
I did listen and I apreciate all your comments Crazy. Only time will tell how long it actually takes to set up, but isn't that why I have a roadie?
Oh, sorry, I won the auction!
Fingers crossed collect later this week and try it all out on Saturday!
If you ever want to borrow it Crazy....!
rob1963
22-05-2007, 03:51 PM
Well gentlemen and Crazy...
I did listen and I apreciate all your comments Crazy. Only time will tell how long it actually takes to set up, but isn't that why I have a roadie?
Oh, sorry, I won the auction!
Fingers crossed collect later this week and try it all out on Saturday!
If you ever want to borrow it Crazy....!
Oh my gosh, Ricesnaps!
You didn't listen to Crazy (surprisingly)
and you didn't listen to me (Unsurprisingly)
I look forward to hearing how you get on with it!
CRAZY K
22-05-2007, 03:53 PM
Well gentlemen and Crazy...
I did listen and I apreciate all your comments Crazy. Only time will tell how long it actually takes to set up, but isn't that why I have a roadie?
Oh, sorry, I won the auction!
Fingers crossed collect later this week and try it all out on Saturday!
If you ever want to borrow it Crazy....!
Good luck with it Matt--are you playing Wembley--didnt see anything in the papers this week?
CRAZY K
Ricesnaps
22-05-2007, 03:55 PM
Oh my gosh, Ricesnaps!
You didn't listen to Crazy (surprisingly)
and you didn't listen to me (Unsurprisingly)
I look forward to hearing how you get on with it!
Sometimes I think you just have to take a chance. To be honest, most of the comments were very favourable, the only concerns being time to assemble - which I will only know once I start using it and the space it takes up - and again, I already know the venues I am being booked to play in and i can't see any problem.
That aside though Rob, it does look the business doesn't it!
You can hire it from me too if you want!
rob1963
22-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Sometimes I think you just have to take a chance. To be honest, most of the comments were very favourable, the only concerns being time to assemble - which I will only know once I start using it and the space it takes up - and again, I already know the venues I am being booked to play in and i can't see any problem.
That aside though Rob, it does look the business doesn't it!
You can hire it from me too if you want!
Ricesnaps,
It does indeed look the business!
...and thanks for the hire offer! :p
Ricesnaps
22-05-2007, 04:43 PM
Ricesnaps,
It does indeed look the business!
...and thanks for the hire offer! :p
Obviously, I already know that most of my clients actually don't give a stuff about the gear as long as I entertain, but I want it to look good!
Paul James Promotions
22-05-2007, 05:11 PM
That section of truss that sticks out at the top doesn't look too good, maybe you could replace it?
wensleydale
22-05-2007, 06:09 PM
think you got a good deal there- as you say you will always be able to sell it on ebay - word the listing right and i reckon you could make a few squid.
alternatively chop a few bits off so it does what you want.
good luck to you sir.
i'll lend you the giant mirror ball if you want- that would set it off a treat.
dannyboy
23-05-2007, 07:03 AM
think you got a good deal there- as you say you will always be able to sell it on ebay
Or mabe DJ-Bids!?!
CRAZY K
23-05-2007, 08:01 AM
Still finalising my trussing / lighting stand options.
Would this be considered over the top or bloody fantastic?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230130412283&rd=1&rd=1
MATT, AFTER GETTING OVER THIS CAN YOU CLEAR OUT YOUR PM BOX--ITS FULL MATE:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
And I believe your EMails not working:eek:
CRAZY K
Ricesnaps
23-05-2007, 08:16 AM
MATT, AFTER GETTING OVER THIS CAN YOU CLEAR OUT YOUR PM BOX--ITS FULL MATE:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
And I believe your EMails not working:eek:
CRAZY K
Deleted a few.
Correct, my email isn't working - have left a message on the "your internet store" mobile and will try the other number we've been given.
Have to say, i am somewhat EXPLETIVE REMOVED now. I specifically moved from my crap host to Richie on lots of recomendation. Surely I can't have jumped out of the frying pan?
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