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Penfold42
18-06-2007, 08:54 PM
Oh well another giant gone.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6765093.stm
He will be sat round a table by now having a chat with the likes of Benny Hill, Les Dawson, Roy Kinnear, Tommy Cooper and Eric Morecambe....

I'm sure you can think of a few more...

Corabar Steve
18-06-2007, 09:46 PM
Bob Monkhouse, Spike Milligan, Peter Sellers, Michael Bentine & Dave Allen, to name but 5 more worthy of the title (IMHO), a genius each one

Penfold42
18-06-2007, 09:53 PM
Bob Monkhouse, Spike Milligan, Peter Sellers, Michael Bentine & Dave Allen, to name but 5 more worthy of the title (IMHO), a genius each one

I would also agree....each one a true star.
Few more Frankie Vaughan, Kenneth Williams and Sid James.(What a laugh.....)

rob1963
18-06-2007, 11:46 PM
What about Ronnie Barker.

BeerFunk
18-06-2007, 11:57 PM
He was one funny guy! Controversial, but he only offended idiots, so who cares! :D

I can't think of many comedians like him that are still around, nowadays you have to watch what you say, or you'll have a media storm raging around you. It is said that, to this day, Manning never did understand what all the fuss was about! :)

rob1963
19-06-2007, 12:31 AM
I can't think of many comedians like him that are still around, nowadays you have to watch what you say, or you'll have a media storm raging around you.

Roy "Chubby" Brown comes to mind.

Corabar Steve
19-06-2007, 08:06 AM
He was one funny guy! Controversial, but he only offended idiots, so who cares! :D

He reduced comedy to it's lowest common denominator then added sexist & racist remarks, yeah, real funny. Political correctnes has gone over the top these days & he'd never get away with his act if starting out now (apart from the fact his jokes were rubbish), there's nothing wrong with making fun of other races / religions / the opposite sex etc as long as it's not over the top (IMHO) & many can do it without having to resort to cheap jibes. You can't compare him with any of the people mentioned above (including RCB) they were all genuinely funny.

BTW, are you saying my grandmother is an idiot?

soundtracker
19-06-2007, 09:14 AM
I would also agree....each one a true star.
Few more Frankie Vaughan, Kenneth Williams and Sid James.(What a laugh.....)

WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankie Vaughan????????? Do you perhaps mean Norman Vaughan? (who was hardly a comedy great!)

rob1963
19-06-2007, 10:37 AM
WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankie Vaughan????????? Do you perhaps mean Norman Vaughan? (who was hardly a comedy great!)

Give me the moonlight, give me the girl, and leave the rest to me :P

BeerFunk
19-06-2007, 10:58 AM
He reduced comedy to it's lowest common denominator then added sexist & racist remarks, yeah, real funny. Political correctnes has gone over the top these days & he'd never get away with his act if starting out now (apart from the fact his jokes were rubbish), there's nothing wrong with making fun of other races / religions / the opposite sex etc as long as it's not over the top (IMHO) & many can do it without having to resort to cheap jibes. You can't compare him with any of the people mentioned above (including RCB) they were all genuinely funny.

BTW, are you saying my grandmother is an idiot?
I'd say that's a bit harsh, I wouldn't have had you down as a member of the PC brigade. Yeah, I found him funny, the reactions he provoked probably helped make him funnier.

Corabar Steve
19-06-2007, 11:26 AM
I wouldn't have had you down as a member of the PC brigade.
I'm not

there's nothing wrong with making fun of other races / religions / the opposite sex etc as long as it's not over the top (IMHO)

I feel things have gone too PC for any one's good, including those it is supposed to protect

Penfold42
19-06-2007, 11:35 AM
WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Frankie Vaughan????????? Do you perhaps mean Norman Vaughan? (who was hardly a comedy great!)

I did think this last night after turning the PC off......was going to switch it back on but decided to leave it.....
Had another look this morning and no-one picked up on it...so left it....

That's my excuse and I am sticking to it...:D

I meant Frankie Howard by the way.

Corabar Steve
19-06-2007, 11:38 AM
I meant Frankie Howard by the way.

Now there is a true King of Comedy!

CRAZY K
19-06-2007, 11:39 AM
I did think this last night after turning the PC off......was going to switch it back on but decided to leave it.....
Had another look this morning and no-one picked up on it...so left it....

That's my excuse and I am sticking to it...:D

I meant Frankie Howard by the way.

On BBC TV this morning Frank Carson---

I phoned the hospital--passed on my best wishes to Bernard who is terminally ill and asked the nurse to get him to let me know what gigs I can cover now he wont be playing them :eek:

CRAZY K

Penfold42
19-06-2007, 12:05 PM
Political correctnes has gone over the top these days & he'd never get away with his act if starting out now (apart from the fact his jokes were rubbish), there's nothing wrong with making fun of other races / religions / the opposite sex etc as long as it's not over the top (IMHO) & many can do it without having to resort to cheap jibes. You can't compare him with any of the people mentioned above (including RCB) they were all genuinely funny.


I agree with the PC going over the top....it's getting to be a joke itself now.
You have to be extremely carful with what you say or mention at work nowadays.

He may have been a bigot and racist but people flocked to see this guy perform...even selling out in minutes....he must have done something right for the masses.
If were taking racist where does Jim Davison fit then??

I'm not a bigot or racist but grew up with type of humour going around...I'm now a little wiser and older to know that this type of humour is not healthy.

As the the thread stated at the begin...'Another King Of Comedy'...the list from above seems to be growing and the people I grew up are passing on. Each one passing bring's back memories....is that wrong?

Penfold42
19-06-2007, 12:08 PM
Now there is a true King of Comedy!

Up Pompeii......lol....was it Lurkyo.....something like that???

Solitaire Events Ltd
19-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Racist/sexist etc or not, I just didn't find Bernard Manning funny.

The same could be said for Jim Davidson....

rob1963
19-06-2007, 12:58 PM
I think it all boils down to the fact that we are all different, and different things make us laugh.

I remember when the alternative comedians came along in the 80's. I just didn't get it, and completely agreed with a description I read about alternative comedy "It's the same as normal comedy, but without the jokes"

Also, In my opinion, Cannon & Ball and even Morecambe & Wise were massively over-rated...and nowhere near as talented as the two Ronnies, but they were still massively popular & massively successful.

Many will disagree with me, which proves my point that we are all different, and we all laugh at different things.

Solitaire Events Ltd
19-06-2007, 01:29 PM
I remember when the alternative comedians came along in the 80's. I just didn't get it

That's 'cos you were too old...:p :D

rob1963
19-06-2007, 01:31 PM
That's 'cos you were too old...:p :D

Probably!

:lol:

Penfold42
19-06-2007, 01:52 PM
I remember when the alternative comedians came along in the 80's. I just didn't get it, and completely agreed with a description I read about alternative comedy "It's the same as normal comedy, but without the jokes".

Alternative comedy....i'm with you on that...didn't get it....I'm old....:o



Also, In my opinion, Cannon & Ball and even Morecambe & Wise were massively over-rated...and nowhere near as talented as the two Ronnies, but they were still massively popular & massively successful.

Cannon and Ball, Morecambe and Wise...over-rated...not sure about that these guy's had t.v. series on at weekends...as well as the Two Ronnies....they must have done something right, you don't get prime weekend t.v. slot's for doing nothing.:)

Dustin Gee another doulbe act - Les and Dennis.



Many will disagree with me, which proves my point that we are all different, and we all laugh at different things.

:agree:

soundtracker
19-06-2007, 01:54 PM
Cannon & Ball overated perhaps... but Morecambe & Wise - now you have lost the plot!

BeerFunk
19-06-2007, 01:56 PM
Also, In my opinion, Cannon & Ball and even Morecambe & Wise were massively over-rated...and nowhere near as talented as the two Ronnies, but they were still massively popular & massively successful.
I'd agree with that, I don't see why the two Ronnies aren't seen as at least equal to Morecambe & Wise.

Yes, it's true that everyone finds different people funny, that's what makes us all different.

rob1963
19-06-2007, 02:10 PM
Cannon & Ball overated perhaps... but Morecambe & Wise - now you have lost the plot!

Cannon & ball over rated PERHAPS? :eek: At the height of their career, they were earning £50,000 a week each. For what? In my opinion, they had virtually no talent. The only thing I remember is Bobby Ball standing there, twanging his braces & saying "Rock on Tommy"...how incredibly funny & talented...not!

As for me losing the plot because I think Morecambe & Wise were over rated, maybe I have & maybe I haven't, but it's just my own honest opinion.