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TONYTIGER
25-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Hi just wondered if you use a roadie how much do you pay them on average?
Spirits High
25-07-2007, 06:18 PM
When I was over in Northern Ireland I had 2 roadies.
One of them was happy with a couple of bottles of wine, the other one got 20quid a night plus he was learning the ropes and of course my accountant knows all about them.
Corabar Steve
25-07-2007, 06:24 PM
What's a roadie?
Tony Scott
25-07-2007, 06:29 PM
Hi just wondered if you use a roadie how much do you pay them on average?
PAY THEM!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
It's payment enough to watch such a gifted DJ as myself work! :D :D
No seriously though, £15 - £20. :)
Excalibur
25-07-2007, 06:38 PM
What's a roadie?
My thoughts entirely!:D
Excalibur
25-07-2007, 06:39 PM
PAY THEM!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
It's payment enough to watch such a gifted DJ as myself work! :D :D
No seriously though, £15 - £20. :)
£15-£20 ???!!!!!! You're definitely earning too much!:p
Penfold42
25-07-2007, 06:39 PM
What's a roadie?
PAY THEM!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
It's payment enough to watch such a gifted DJ as myself work! :D :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dragonfly
25-07-2007, 07:19 PM
both times ive had one before they learned the joys of beer and women at the weekends which is why im reluctant to take on another despite desperately needing one i gave them 20-25 quid a night depending on the work involved etc.
KrazyKaz
25-07-2007, 07:22 PM
erm... nothing - my hubby is my roadie!!
although he has just said we need to talk about a payrise - LOL :-)
Penfold42
25-07-2007, 07:23 PM
both times ive had one before they learned the joys of beer and women at the weekends which is why im reluctant to take on another despite desperately needing one i gave them 20-25 quid a night depending on the work involved etc.
Can't blame them for that......:D :D :D
Never needed one.....more money for me and my empire!!!:D :D :D
Dragonfly
25-07-2007, 07:23 PM
erm... nothing - my hubby is my roadie!!
although he has just said we need to talk about a payrise - LOL :-)
my wife is mine but it causes serious weekly friction.
Penfold42
25-07-2007, 07:30 PM
my wife is mine but it causes serious weekly friction.
Any time Dave....you know where I am....:)
Twinspin
25-07-2007, 09:35 PM
I pay my roadie Jason £20.00
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Twinspindj/DSC00034.jpg
the happy chappy :p
Excalibur
25-07-2007, 09:48 PM
Any time Dave....you know where I am....:)
I don't think you can volunteer to be his wife, he appears to already have one!:D
DMX Will
25-07-2007, 09:50 PM
Ok guys, my roadie (who is only an every now and then) is paid per hour.
£4.29 (say a 6pm setup through to a 1am in car on way home) is 7 hours = £30.03
I'm obviously over paying him. lol
rob1963
25-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Errrrr......isn't it illegal to pay someone £4.29 an hour?
(Unless they are 16 or 17)
Tony Scott
25-07-2007, 09:55 PM
I pay my roadie Jason £20.00
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Twinspindj/DSC00034.jpg
the happy chappy :p
If you pay him a bit more you might cheer him up a bit, he looks really misrerable! :D :D
DMX Will
25-07-2007, 09:56 PM
Errrrr......isn't it illegal to pay someone £4.29 an hour?
He's 16, and based around an invoice, not via PAYE.
DMX Will
25-07-2007, 09:57 PM
He's 16, and based around an invoice, not via PAYE.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Pay/DG_10027201
young people (those older than school leaving age and younger than 18, you're under school leaving age until the end of summer term of the school year in which you turn 16) receive £3.30 an hour (From 1 October 2007 this will increase to £3.40)
rob1963
25-07-2007, 09:58 PM
He's 16, and based around an invoice, not via PAYE.
Ahhhhhhhh...thats ok then!
:)
DMX Will
25-07-2007, 10:00 PM
Ahhhhhhhh...thats ok then!
:)
Turns out it would be legal even if through PAYE! ;)
rob1963
25-07-2007, 10:01 PM
I must admit...I had no idea that the National minimum wage was so low for 16 & 17 year olds...but you learn something every day!
jamesh
26-07-2007, 02:34 AM
Looks like i pay my roadie too much then.... Generally he gets £35 per gig and then gigs over £300 he gets extra on top..... As well as that i pay for all drinks during the gig and food at the end of the night too and he gets picked up from his house and dropped back there at the end of the night....
Ricesnaps
26-07-2007, 05:25 AM
Looks like i pay my roadie too much then.... Generally he gets £35 per gig and then gigs over £300 he gets extra on top..... As well as that i pay for all drinks during the gig and food at the end of the night too and he gets picked up from his house and dropped back there at the end of the night....
Well I think you're spot on, although it looks like it's just you and me.
I have a set of rates for mine:
evening only disco - £30
Wedding with early set up - £40
All day wedding (generally midday - midnight) - £50
After midnight £10 per hour
CRAZY K
26-07-2007, 08:15 AM
Ahhhhhhhh...thats ok then!
:)
As long as he is insured as required by law:eek:
CRAZY K
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 09:28 AM
I pay anywhere from £25 up to £150 depending on who they are, how many hours and what they're doing.
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 09:29 AM
As long as he is insured as required by law:eek:
CRAZY K
Yeah right.
Be realistic, how many people on here have got employers liability insurance do you think?
Corabar Steve
26-07-2007, 09:30 AM
We have.
Penfold42
26-07-2007, 09:31 AM
I pay anywhere from £25 up to £150 depending on who they are, how many hours and what they're doing.
Forget working for you....i'll roadie at that price....;) :D
Dragonfly
26-07-2007, 09:32 AM
I pay anywhere from £25 up to £150 depending on who they are, how many hours and what they're doing.
Ladies and gentlemen tonights special guest roadie ......................mr. Brad Pit :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 09:49 AM
We have.
So have we, but most people won't have, I'm guessing.
Forget working for you....i'll roadie at that price....;) :D
When I said £150, that was for a long day and did involve driving me too.
Penfold42
26-07-2007, 09:53 AM
When I said £150, that was for a long day and did involve driving me too.
It's going to be a long day on here then......better get off.....:) :D
rob1963
26-07-2007, 10:00 AM
how many people on here have got employers liability insurance do you think?
Not me...
...the main reason being that I'm not an employer!
:D
Tony Scott
26-07-2007, 10:14 AM
When I said £150, that was for a long day and did involve driving me too.
I know it would never happen but would you pay your roadie 'Danger Money' if they had to.......I don't know maybe balance on tables whilst carrying your kit in a flood or something similar?
Actually no, I'm just being silly, what's the chances of that happening......:D
jamesh
26-07-2007, 10:23 AM
I know it would never happen but would you pay your roadie 'Danger Money' if they had to.......I don't know maybe balance on tables whilst carrying your kit in a flood or something similar?
Actually no, I'm just being silly, what's the chances of that happening......:D
ha ha ha nope in that situation or ones like it i would just turn around to the roadie and say look it might be a bit dangerous doing what we are about to do and dont feel you have to do it..... It's your choice
probably followed by bringing out the baseball bat and saying but if you dont
1. you wont get paid
2. i'll introduce you to me little friend mr Batty
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D the last bit was a joke obviously.... I would never hit my roadie.... i'd just lock him in the cellar when i got home without any food or water... :eek: :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 10:46 AM
I know it would never happen but would you pay your roadie 'Danger Money' if they had to.......I don't know maybe balance on tables whilst carrying your kit in a flood or something similar?
Actually no, I'm just being silly, what's the chances of that happening......:D
Hehehe...
I didn't have anyone with me for that particular booking anyway.
CRAZY K
26-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah right.
Be realistic, how many people on here have got employers liability insurance do you think?
Not many probably--but thats their problem when they lose their ALL THEIR ASSETS because of a claim against them.
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
If its cost---well thats another thread--I imagine eventually a Roadie will get killed and then the lid will get blown off.:D
If a large bloke in London trips over a flower petal and gets a million quid----whats a Roadies family going to get if hes killed---he wont be a Merchant Banker but in todays world the award could still be very high.
You heard it here first,
CRAZY K
Tony Scott
26-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Not many probably--but thats their problem when they lose their ALL THEIR ASSETS because of a claim against them.
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
If its cost---well thats another thread--I imagine eventually a Roadie will get killed and then the lid will get blown off.:D
If a large bloke in London trips over a flower petal and gets a million quid----whats a Roadies family going to get if hes killed---he wont be a Merchant Banker but in todays world the award could still be very high.
You heard it here first,
CRAZY K
I'd have to hide the body just like I did with the PAT tester :eek: ............I've said too much! Move on! :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 11:58 AM
Not many probably--but thats their problem when they lose their ALL THEIR ASSETS because of a claim against them.
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
I personally don't think it'll ever happen.
Twinspin
26-07-2007, 12:56 PM
That pic was one his one of his bad days. He likes discoing and we have a good laugh.
TONYTIGER
26-07-2007, 01:26 PM
I personally don't think it'll ever happen.
Sorry to be THE REAPER but its allready happen a young roadie conecting up some 3 phase was killed in the last 18 months im not at liberty to say were but be warned include your staff on your public liabilty there working for you.
TONYTIGER
Corabar Steve
26-07-2007, 01:33 PM
Sorry to be THE REAPER but its allready happen a young roadie conecting up some 3 phase was killed in the last 18 months im not at liberty to say were but be warned include your staff on your public liabilty there working for you.
TONYTIGER
Public liability wouldn't cover an employee.
electricnite
26-07-2007, 01:47 PM
I pay mine £10 per show he puts up and pulls down 7 shows not a bad days work £70
TONYTIGER
26-07-2007, 02:15 PM
Public liability wouldn't cover an employee.
Your quite right a mistake on my part i meant that i have my staff covered for accidents whatever the technical term is .TONYTIGER
CRAZY K
26-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Sorry to be THE REAPER but its allready happen a young roadie conecting up some 3 phase was killed in the last 18 months im not at liberty to say were but be warned include your staff on your public liabilty there working for you.
TONYTIGER
Im saying nothing--no need.
Back to my painting:D
CRAZY K
DMX Will
26-07-2007, 04:08 PM
I don't have staff. Problem solved.
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 08:28 PM
Sorry to be THE REAPER but its allready happen a young roadie conecting up some 3 phase was killed in the last 18 months im not at liberty to say were but be warned include your staff on your public liabilty there working for you.
TONYTIGER
Someone connecting 3 phase is unlikely to be doing a mobile disco are they?
Concert rigging and bands, yes.
Excalibur
26-07-2007, 08:37 PM
Someone connecting 3 phase is unlikely to be doing a mobile disco are they?
Concert rigging and bands, yes.
I know a disco that likes to run on 3phase. No it's not me! Yes I have been wired into 3 phase( strictly one of 3 phases)
Solitaire Events Ltd
26-07-2007, 08:45 PM
I know a disco that likes to run on 3phase. No it's not me! Yes I have been wired into 3 phase( strictly one of 3 phases)
Th point is though, there are unlikely to be many.
TONYTIGER
27-07-2007, 06:32 AM
A lot of our big coperate gigs use 3 phase generators and you must balance the phases to within 10% so you need to know what your doing , also do a lot of festivals allways 3 phase. TONYTIGER
CRAZY K
27-07-2007, 08:42 AM
Th point is though, there are unlikely to be many.
Big set up--small set up--Electricity doesnt mind---it kills anyone that gets in its way:D
CRAZY K
TONYTIGER
27-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Big set up--small set up--Electricity doesnt mind---it kills anyone that gets in its way:D
CRAZY K
Spot on give that man a medal ,why do we get so many negative coments on this forum the advice given is well meant. TONYTIGER
Corabar Steve
27-07-2007, 02:28 PM
I don't see it as a negative comment. It was just pointed out that your average mobile DJ would not encounter 3 phase too often.
Wouldn't it be boring if we all had the same opinions though?
Solitaire Events Ltd
27-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Spot on give that man a medal ,why do we get so many negative coments on this forum the advice given is well meant. TONYTIGER
I don't see it as a negative comment. It was just pointed out that your average mobile DJ would not encounter 3 phase too often.
Exactly.
And I was pointing out that not many, if any at all, single operators with roadies, are not going to have employers liability insurance and then you get examples of people being killed with electricity.
People won't be scaremongered into buying insurance because of one example that probably wasn't even a DJ anyway.
Most DJs that have roadies, are there mates or relations I reckon, so I can't honestly see people sueing their own brother or best mate 'cos they tripped on a stair.
My own opinion of course.
Excalibur
27-07-2007, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=Corabar Steve;
Wouldn't it be boring if we all had the same opinions though?[/QUOTE]
On here it would be :Censored: amazing!:jawdrop:
CRAZY K
27-07-2007, 06:15 PM
Exactly.
And I was pointing out that not many, if any at all, single operators with roadies, are not going to have employers liability insurance and then you get examples of people being killed with electricity.
People won't be scaremongered into buying insurance because of one example that probably wasn't even a DJ anyway.
Most DJs that have roadies, are there mates or relations I reckon, so I can't honestly see people sueing their own brother or best mate 'cos they tripped on a stair.
My own opinion of course.
Daz, where theres compensation and money concerned---there are no limits to what people will do---look at a few lottery winners:eek: :eek: :eek:
Just my view--I wonder if some of those people who got flooded out recently with no insurance would have appreciated someone flogging them a policy.
But then as you have guessed--I used to sell Insurance:D
regards
Alan
CRAZY K
Solitaire Events Ltd
27-07-2007, 06:33 PM
Daz, where theres compensation and money concerned---there are no limits to what people will do---look at a few lottery winners:eek: :eek: :eek:
Just my view--I wonder if some of those people who got flooded out recently with no insurance would have appreciated someone flogging them a policy.
But then as you have guessed--I used to sell Insurance:D
regards
Alan
CRAZY K
Used to?
You sure you still don't? :p
TONYTIGER
27-07-2007, 06:35 PM
Exactly.
And I was pointing out that not many, if any at all, single operators with roadies, are not going to have employers liability insurance and then you get examples of people being killed with electricity.
People won't be scaremongered into buying insurance because of one example that probably wasn't even a DJ anyway.
Most DJs that have roadies, are there mates or relations I reckon, so I can't honestly see people sueing their own brother or best mate 'cos they tripped on a stair.
My own opinion of course.
No one is saying you cant have a opinon, but let me make my point more clear. Firstly i mentioned 3 phase and it was pointed that most djs dont come across it if i recall correctly there was quite some discussion about working in marquees a lot of companys who provide the marquee will also provide the generator quite often or not this will be a 3phase genny now ouite popular for cost and power reasons, and i was simply trying to give advice how dodgy this can be to the unwary this aplies to everybody including one man operators.yes the young man in question was not a dj just a djs helper.But let me ask you this if you had a mate that helped you on your disco free or payed and he had a serious accident while helping you what would you do?Its quite amazing how little health and saftey there is in the industry generaly, i mean look at the construction idustry 110v site inspector etc yet you can stick 500 people in a tent and have 240v running all over the place in damp conditions and no offical to check its safe i work with 8 marquee companys and none have a qualifed electrcian and thats the norm. As for insurance that is purley your choice, i had none till the accident to the young man but it made me think hard so its now in place yes im not making so much profit but i sleep easy. I am coming to the end of my career in this industry and have made a good living out of it for 42 years all im trying to do is pass on some of my knowledge to some of the up and coming djs and some of them will hopefully make a career out of it in some form or another.
Excalibur
27-07-2007, 06:44 PM
No one is saying you cant have a opinon, but let me make my point more clear. Firstly i mentioned 3 phase and it was pointed that most djs dont come across it if i recall correctly there was quite some discussion about working in marquees a lot of companys who provide the marquee will also provide the generator quite often or not this will be a 3phase genny now ouite popular for cost and power reasons, and i was simply trying to give advice how dodgy this can be to the unwary this aplies to everybody including one man operators.yes the young man in question was not a dj just a djs helper.But let me ask you this if you had a mate that helped you on your disco free or payed and he had a serious accident while helping you what would you do?Its quite amazing how little health and saftey there is in the industry generaly, i mean look at the construction idustry 110v site inspector etc yet you can stick 500 people in a tent and have 240v running all over the place in damp conditions and no offical to check its safe i work with 8 marquee companys and none have a qualifed electrcian and thats the norm. As for insurance that is purley your choice, i had none till the accident to the young man but it made me think hard so its now in place yes im not making so much profit but i sleep easy. I am coming to the end of my career in this industry and have made a good living out of it for 42 years all im trying to do is pass on some of my knowledge to some of the up and coming djs and some of them will hopefully make a career out of it in some form or another.
Can't disagree with a word of that, perhaps it's just that to many people the electricity is simply what comes out of the cable in the corner, as if by magic! They don't know any more, and believe they don't need to. I'm not getting in a dig at anyone, just stating what I believe to be the situation.
The one thing above all which stands out, is make sure all sensible safety measures should be taken at all times.
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