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soundmaster mobile disco
23-08-2007, 05:41 PM
:confused: Hi guys i use 2 datamoons which i bought as a kit brand new.They are the latest model built in china i believe.I would not say that they are the brightest lights.My question to you all is this.
What do you have your dip switches set at?
How do i get the best lightshow out of them?
I use the hand held controller that was supplied with the kit.I also link them up via the 5 pin dmx lead.
What is your best advice to get the very best lightshow out of them?

Ricesnaps
23-08-2007, 06:23 PM
I believe all the answers you need will be found here:

http://www.njd.co.uk/maindir/Downloads/User_guides/DMX_lighting/datamoon.pdf

soundmaster mobile disco
23-08-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks!

DJ James Lake
23-08-2007, 10:26 PM
Change the bulbs for philips or osram they come supplied with cheap chinese bulbs which are pants. Datamoons are very bright lights

Ricesnaps
24-08-2007, 05:55 AM
Been meening to ask this for a while. Is there a noticable difference in output between cheaper lamps and branded. I mean a real noticable difference?

rob1963
24-08-2007, 08:16 AM
Been meening to ask this for a while. Is there a noticable difference in output between cheaper lamps and branded. I mean a real noticable difference?

No.

The only difference I've noticed is that they don't last as long, but that's a small price to pay when a couple of lamps for my mushroom light cost me £5.

2 of the same lamps (but branded versions) in my local disco shop are £26, which is more than 5 times the price...but they certainly don't last 5 times longer than the unbranded ones!

Therefore, the unbranded ones work out cheaper overall.

Solitaire Events Ltd
24-08-2007, 11:04 AM
No.



Without wishing to be rude Rob, you only use 2 effects, so that's hardly a good comparison?

I think you'll find that most people that use a lot of lighting will disagree. I have found the branded lamps to be slightly brighter, though your audience would never know, but they do last a lot longer in my experience.

Paul James Promotions
24-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Yes, the better quality lamps are definitely brighter. Tried a batch of cheap lamps a couple of years back that were pretty much useless. As has already been mentioned, the Datamoon is one of the brightest effects.

rob1963
24-08-2007, 02:05 PM
Without wishing to be rude Rob, you only use 2 effects, so that's hardly a good comparison?

I think you'll find that most people that use a lot of lighting will disagree. I have found the branded lamps to be slightly brighter, though your audience would never know, but they do last a lot longer in my experience.

With all due respect, Darren, my larger disco (which most people book) uses 4 effects, not 2.

I've noticed no difference in the brightness of lamps which don't have something like "Osram" printed on them.

Of course the branded lamps last a lot longer, but in my experience certainly not 5 times longer...even though they cost 5 times more.

Therefore, for me, the cheaper unbranded lamps offer much better value for money...which is why it makes sense for me to use them.

I always carry spare lamps, so if one blows during a gig, it's no trouble changing it.

Ricesnaps
24-08-2007, 02:10 PM
So here's the millon dollar question, which branded lamp is the best buy?

Tell you what, I have three Datamoons (which to be honest are very very bright on the long life cheapy unbranded ebay lamps), so I'll do a side by side comparison.

I would say my I-Show's look a little pants and I had wondered if that was a lamp problem

rob1963
24-08-2007, 02:15 PM
So here's the millon dollar question, which branded lamp is the best buy?

I don't think it's possible to answer that question, although you can't go far wrong with any of the common makes like Philips or Osram.

soundmaster mobile disco
24-08-2007, 02:19 PM
Must be my datamoons that are not very bright then!

Ricesnaps
24-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Must be my datamoons that are not very bright then!

Have you tried a bit of windowlean on the lense and reflector?

Paul James Promotions
24-08-2007, 03:16 PM
I use the GE lamps, for both the discharge and dicroic types.

Larry B Entertainment
24-08-2007, 06:13 PM
I use osram lamps. Found a supplier on ebay that does 5 250w 24v lamps for £10. I think thats good value. I always carry one spare bulb for every didfferent type of fitting although the 25w coloured bulbs for the screens are becoming harder to source.

DJ James Lake
24-08-2007, 08:36 PM
Been meening to ask this for a while. Is there a noticable difference in output between cheaper lamps and branded. I mean a real noticable difference?

Yes there is a lot of difference. You may get lucky with some cheaper bulbs but most are very dim when compared in the same unit.

rob1963
24-08-2007, 08:45 PM
cheap chinese bulbs which are pants.



The only difference I've noticed is that they don't last as long.


I have found the branded lamps to be slightly brighter, though your audience would never know.


Tried a batch of cheap lamps a couple of years back that were pretty much useless.


Yes there is a lot of difference. You may get lucky with some cheaper bulbs but most are very dim when compared in the same unit.

Looks like a whole load of very differing opinions on this one then! Cheap lamps are obviously somewhere between "as good as branded lamps" and "pretty much useless"

...so now you know!!! :confused:

Penfold42
24-08-2007, 08:51 PM
Looks like a whole load of very differing opinions on this one then! Cheap lamps are obviously somewhere between "as good as branded lamps" to "pretty much useless"

...so now you know!!! :confused:

Ah well Rob you made 'light' work of that thread...................:D

rob1963
24-08-2007, 10:10 PM
Ah well Rob you made 'light' work of that thread...................:D

:lol:

Corabar Steve
25-08-2007, 01:27 AM
Ah well Rob you made 'light' work of that thread...................:D

Corner, NOW!

Penfold42
25-08-2007, 11:19 AM
Corner, NOW!

AGAIN................:D

TONYTIGER
25-08-2007, 06:20 PM
Cheap unbranded lamps pants, just like cheap Leds;)

soundmaster mobile disco
26-08-2007, 12:18 AM
Well guys the what bulbs are best debate goes on.I have to say that after changing bulbs in my datamoons i was amazed at the difference in brightness so in my oppinion the more expensive bulbs(phillips/osram) are the best.
Thanks for your advice which turned out to be 100% correct.

rob1963
26-08-2007, 01:24 AM
Cheap unbranded lamps pants, just like cheap Leds;)

...or cheap discos? :rolleyes:

Ricesnaps
26-08-2007, 06:42 AM
Now then.....

One of my Datamoons started running with the gobo wheel sort of stuck inbetween two gobo's. What's happened and how do I put it right?

By the way, the gobo's changed OK, but just got "split" patterns all night

Vectis
26-08-2007, 08:13 AM
Rice

Open it up and check whether the transformer (the big round doughnut) has come loose on its mounting. If so, recenter it and tighten with a ?10mm? hex spanner.

Happens to mine on occasion.


VV

Solitaire Events Ltd
26-08-2007, 01:09 PM
Thanks for your advice which turned out to be 100% correct.

Apart from Rob's...:p

rob1963
26-08-2007, 01:12 PM
Thanks for your advice which turned out to be 100% correct.


Apart from Rob's...:p

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