PDA

View Full Version : Free listings.



Penfold42
12-09-2007, 12:14 PM
I've just got this through on a free listing via e-mail....

Tony, good news! You have received an enquiry via UK-Disco.

If you would like to follow-up this enquiry, simply text the following message (without the quotes) to our SMS number : 88222.

'DISCO xxxx'

Your mobile operator will charge £1.50 to your bill. The full enquiry, including the client's contact details will then be available through your admin menu on UK-Disco.

Two questions -
1) Is this the norm?
2) How does this make it a free listing?

Not had a chance to look at the T&C's yet......
Thanks.

CRAZY K
12-09-2007, 12:19 PM
I've just got this through on a free listing via e-mail....

Tony, good news! You have received an enquiry via UK-Disco.

If you would like to follow-up this enquiry, simply text the following message (without the quotes) to our SMS number : 88222.

'DISCO xxxx'

Your mobile operator will charge £1.50 to your bill. The full enquiry, including the client's contact details will then be available through your admin menu on UK-Disco.

Two questions -
1) Is this the norm?
2) How does this make it a free listing?

Not had a chance to look at the T&C's yet......
Thanks.

HERES ANOTHER QUESTION--HOW MANY OTHER DJS DID THEY GIVE THIS ENQUIRY TO :eek: :eek: :eek:


There are no free lunches Tony---even though its Lunch Time now--

CRAZY K

BrightLights
12-09-2007, 12:20 PM
They've just changed the way free listings work so you're charged to view the details of the enquiry.

It might be better to pose this sort of question on the UK-Disco forum rather than this one...

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 12:25 PM
HERES ANOTHER QUESTION--HOW MANY OTHER DJS DID THEY GIVE THIS ENQUIRY TO :eek: :eek: :eek:


There are no free lunches Tony---even though its Lunch Time now--

CRAZY K

Your sharp..........i was keeping the other part for later......:)

2nd part of e-mail...
want something to suit young and old.

NOTE: Enquiry made public to other companies. Original enquiry made in , .

Type of event : Wedding Reception

Venue name / location : The Lawn, Lincoln

Event Date : 26 July 2008

Start time : 7:00

End time : 11:45

Number of guests : 70

Is access via a flight of stairs? : Yes

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 12:30 PM
They've just changed the way free listings work so you're charged to view the details of the enquiry.

It might be better to pose this sort of question on the UK-Disco forum rather than this one...

Possibly correct and if there is something wrong, i appologise to admin now and admin are free to delete.......

The main qustion i'm asking is if it's a free listing.....why pay?

soundtracker
12-09-2007, 12:32 PM
Its a free listing because your details are listed for free! What they are now doing is giving you the opportunity to buy access to an enquiry to another free listing - a golden opportunity to obtain business using your telephone selling skills, or alternatively the opportunity to speak to someone whose opening gambit is "How much my saan!" You pays your money and indeed you takes yer chance!

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 12:43 PM
Its a free listing because your details are listed for free! What they are now doing is giving you the opportunity to buy access to an enquiry to another free listing - a golden opportunity to obtain business using your telephone selling skills, or alternatively the opportunity to speak to someone whose opening gambit is "How much my saan!" You pays your money and indeed you takes yer chance!

Thanks Peter......that's what i thought......:)

CRAZY K
12-09-2007, 12:46 PM
Its a free listing because your details are listed for free! What they are now doing is giving you the opportunity to buy access to an enquiry to another free listing - a golden opportunity to obtain business using your telephone selling skills, or alternatively the opportunity to speak to someone whose opening gambit is "How much my saan!" You pays your money and indeed you takes yer chance!

Do you always get a telephone number?

I was offered a free trial from another similar company---got two enquiries--no telephone numbers--just email--no business:(

I get enquiries like that free off my own website everyday:D

CRAZY K

CRAZY K
12-09-2007, 12:47 PM
Your sharp..........i was keeping the other part for later......:)

2nd part of e-mail...
want something to suit young and old.

NOTE: Enquiry made public to other companies. Original enquiry made in , .

Type of event : Wedding Reception

Venue name / location : The Lawn, Lincoln

Event Date : 26 July 2008

Start time : 7:00

End time : 11:45

Number of guests : 70

Is access via a flight of stairs? : Yes

Yes im always cutting myself:D :D :D

CRAZY K

Dragonfly
12-09-2007, 01:16 PM
"wild razor crazy k" scurge of the west ...... so sharp he has to wear teflon chapps !!!!

rob1963
12-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Out of interest, do you have to pay to receive enquiries if you have a paid listing as well? or only if you have a free listing?

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 01:45 PM
Out of interest, do you have to pay to receive enquiries if you have a paid listing as well? or only if you have a free listing?

To Answer your question -

NOTE: The client has chosen to make this enquiry visible to other
companies in your area. If you want to prevent this happening, please
upgrade your account. Upgrade to Silver membership and gain access
to other enquiries in your county, or choose Gold membership to see
enquiries in your region.

Rob - I have you e-mail address, i can forward if you want? :)

Danno13
12-09-2007, 01:47 PM
You don't with a Gold listing, not sure about the others though.

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Free listing my bottom.

Sorry, but that is a rip off.

Dragonfly
12-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Free listing my bottom.

Sorry, but that is a rip off.

Free listings on Dazs bottom whos first??? :D :D

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Free listing my bottom.

Sorry, but that is a rip off.

I agree.....so what to do next?
This is in my back yard so to speak....and a nice venue.

Quick vote - is it worth £1.50? Give it a shot so to speak.......:)

Larry B Entertainment
12-09-2007, 06:13 PM
For £1.50 what have you got to lose..........well apart from the quid 50.

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-09-2007, 06:23 PM
I agree.....so what to do next?
This is in my back yard so to speak....and a nice venue.

Quick vote - is it worth £1.50? Give it a shot so to speak.......:)

I don't think you should have to pay that, but then it's up to them I suppose.

I am listed on UK disco and the text facility wasn't even on there to begin with. If people now don't want to answer and pay £1.50 out of principle, the prospective client might think you haven't bothered to answer. That's the bit that would annoy me.

Up to you Tony - I suppose it might be worth a go, but as I said, I wouldn't out of principle. I signed up for a free service on there.

Danno13
12-09-2007, 06:24 PM
Its not a bad idea really. Its simply offering you the choice to pay per lead that comes through their site.

Or, upgrade to a paid listing if you think you'll be interested in more 20 odd leads per year. (Silver listing is £35)

Of course, clients can still come through to your site and enquire direct.. so you can still get these ones for free!

Obviously I don't know the details, but there does seem to be a huge amount of free listings on there, it might be that the site was no longer viable with the amount of paid listers there currently are.

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
Its not a bad idea really. Its simply offering you the choice to pay per lead that comes through their site.



No, it's simply them making more money out of DJs.

DMX Will
12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
I agree with Darren.

I wonder if they have the correct licenses to charge premium rate texts? Or maybe the handler does that.

Dragonfly
12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
add the 1.50 to your quote lol...... know what you mean though Daz lots of new things cropped up on there .... but all at a cost.

Danno13
12-09-2007, 06:27 PM
But at the end of the day, its a business and there to make money. You've probably noticed they have several other sites for photographers, limos etc.

If for each £1.50 on a lead, you secure a £200+ booking, then its less than 1% of turnover. I suppose its just down to how likely you think the conversion is - there does seem to be quite alot of "how much?" type enquiries.

Dragonfly
12-09-2007, 06:29 PM
indeed prices doubled though since i started on there a few years ago.... was disappointed when i lost my gold listing

Penfold42
12-09-2007, 07:12 PM
I don't think you should have to pay that, but then it's up to them I suppose.

I am listed on UK disco and the text facility wasn't even on there to begin with.If people now don't want to answer and pay £1.50 out of principle, the prospective client might think you haven't bothered to answer. That's the bit that would annoy me.

Up to you Tony - I suppose it might be worth a go, but as I said, I wouldn't out of principle. I signed up for a free service on there.

I've done it.....only because this has probably been generated by someone in Lincoln and as you have pointed out - not getting back to someone could do more harm......

Corabar Steve
12-09-2007, 08:49 PM
indeed prices doubled though since i started on there a few years ago.... was disappointed when i lost my gold listing

How can you lose a paid listing?

rob1963
12-09-2007, 09:04 PM
Rob - I have you e-mail address, i can forward if you want? :)

Yes please! :)

rob1963
12-09-2007, 09:08 PM
add the 1.50 to your quote lol......

I personally wouldn't do that...

...there's no way I'd quote £21.50

:D

CRAZY K
12-09-2007, 10:06 PM
I personally wouldn't do that...

...there's no way I'd quote £21.50

:D

My experience of being given the free trial leads was rubbish---but as Soundtracker pointed out---if you got telephone Numbers then theres more chance of using your telephone selling skills--

Usually I find most internet enquiries give email addresses and dont want to be contacted by phone to start with.

So its very hit and miss-I know the bloke who phoned me about the free trial quoted a success rate of about 1 in 6 I think--it would be fairly low because they give the lead to other people.

I cant see it being much more effective than your own site--unless you dont get many enquiries.

IF ONLY IT WAS AS EASY AS SENDING A TEXT---SOME HOPE!

CRAZY K

jamesh
12-09-2007, 10:07 PM
I don't think you should have to pay that, but then it's up to them I suppose.

I am listed on UK disco and the text facility wasn't even on there to begin with. If people now don't want to answer and pay £1.50 out of principle, the prospective client might think you haven't bothered to answer. That's the bit that would annoy me.

Up to you Tony - I suppose it might be worth a go, but as I said, I wouldn't out of principle. I signed up for a free service on there.

but that's the thing Darren you still get your free listing! You're still on the site and you're names still out there.... so you are still getting you free listing... It's just if you want it to be useful to your business you have to pay...

One thing i do know and that's UK-disco has paid for itself time and time again! I've already covered the cost of the gold listing many times over.

Plus i think charging per enquiry for the free listings is great... well for me personally anyway as i have a gold listing which means any enquiry that someone makes to a free listing it's available for me to view too :D as most tick the 3rd party box... So if more of the free listings dont pay to view it it's one less disco to compete against my quote.

Having said that for some reason my listing isn't even on the site at the moment and only renewed a few months ago... Off to go write and email!!!!

rob1963
12-09-2007, 10:10 PM
I was thinking of upgrading my free listing on the site in question to a silver listing, as someone here said they get shed loads of work from that site, but after the posts I've read, I've changed my mind!

Ricesnaps
12-09-2007, 10:37 PM
Well, for what it's worth, I have a Silver listing with UK-Disco's and I get third party enquiries via text (as I opted to buy some text bundles). Used to get at least three or four texts a week. Not had a single one in last 6 months. So has something gone wrong, or are people not using UK-Disco anymore?

jamesh
12-09-2007, 10:46 PM
I was thinking of upgrading my free listing on the site in question to a silver listing, as someone here said they get shed loads of work from that site, but after the posts I've read, I've changed my mind!

Whys that rob? With a silver listing you don't have to pay the £1,50 unless you opt to receive text alerts and then it's only 10p for the text NOT £1.50...

Seems completely dumb to me as you say in your post you have been told by some they get lots of work from it but because free listings are being charged to view their enquiries you are going to cut off your nose to spite your face...

rob1963
12-09-2007, 10:52 PM
Whys that rob? With a silver listing you don't have to pay the £1,50 unless you opt to receive text alerts and then it's only 10p for the text NOT £1.50...

Seems completely dumb to me as you say in your post you have been told by some they get lots of work from it but because free listings are being charged to view their enquiries you are going to cut off your nose to spite your face...

Ahhh...thanks for the info, James.

I wasn't aware of that.

:)

TonyB
12-09-2007, 11:03 PM
I have a Silver listing and it has more than paid for itself. I get about 10 enquiries a month through the site and the booking ratio is about 1 in 5 (some I don't reply to if they have been sent to others and not the sort of thing I want to do). Most do have a phone number but it is up to the enquirer whether or not they include one.

Spirits High
12-09-2007, 11:07 PM
Well, for what it's worth, I have a Silver listing with UK-Disco's and I get third party enquiries via text (as I opted to buy some text bundles). Used to get at least three or four texts a week. Not had a single one in last 6 months. So has something gone wrong, or are people not using UK-Disco anymore?


Well, apart from on here UK disco is the only place I advertise. I have a gold listing (£94 a yr). It worked really well over in Northern Ireland and seems to be going ok overhere as a gold member (sorry ,couldnt resist that!) I get all enquires for the E Mids region via text. So far I ve got a 2 bookings from every 10 enquirys success rate , yes not brilliant but ok at the mo while im trying to establish myself overhere. I bought a 100 text bundle for I think £30 off the top of my head.

So i'd say people are still using their site.


Still hanging onto the hope that my Ad in decembers brides magazine will sow up next year.