Macs

[Jiggles]

Hello Does anyone know of a DJ program that runs on Mac OS X ?? Im soon to be moving my PCs on to macs (Safer!) So any help??

[BeerFunk]

If you mean safer in terms of viruses, that is apparently true but if your PC is not exposed to and danger (ie. connected to the net, other machines etc) and is a dedicated machine - it is 100% safe!


Hello Does anyone know of a DJ program that runs on Mac OS X ?? Im soon to be moving my PCs on to macs (Safer!) So any help??Erm.. no, sorry! :o

[Tom]

i think there more hassle as not much software works on them.

also i just typed "dj software on mac" and the first link came up. maby you could try google first???


http://www.dj1800.com/

[Jiggles]

If you mean safer in terms of viruses, that is apparently true but if your PC is not exposed to and danger (ie. connected to the net, other machines etc) and is a dedicated machine - it is 100% safe!



Just to add to that is Visa with LOTS more features and isn't a resource hog :D




i think there more hassle as not much software works on them.


most software has a mac side to it and you'll be amazes Microsoft office 2003 works on it!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Never used this, but have heard from others it's quite good. http://www.dj1800.com/

DOH - Didn't see KMA's link till too late.

[jamesh]

Virtual DJ is fully compatible with mac.

www.virtualdj.com

should be on commission at this rate :D:D:D

[Jiggles]

should be on commission at this rate :D:D:D

Yep :lol:

[Tom]

most software has a mac side to it and you'll be amazes Microsoft office 2003 works on it!

yeah, dont forget that microsoft actually created a mac version. because people wanted it and didnt want a "PC"

[Jiggles]

yeah, dont forget that microsoft actually created a mac version. because people wanted it and didnt want a "PC"


I read on the Mac forums that the PC version would work on the macs!!

[Tom]

I read on the Mac forums that the PC version would work on the macs!!

nuh. go pc world or some place and there is a special section jusr for mac that microsoft have done so there software will work on mac.

anyway back to the topic.


just have a look about and see what pops up.

[DMX Will]

I read on the Mac forums that the PC version would work on the macs!!

I don't think it would "properly" if at all. I also would have thought Microsoft would have built something in to their software installation that says "Erm...no...you're using a Mac, go and spend another £150 here for the Mac version" ;).

Macs and PCs use completetly different folder structures, not to mention a completetly different file system. I can't think it would be possible.

Not that I actually know much about Macs....

[Tom]

I don't think it would "properly" if at all. I also would have thought Microsoft would have built something in to their software installation that says "Erm...no...you're using a Mac, go and spend another £150 here for the Mac version" ;).

Macs and PCs use completetly different folder structures, not to mention a completetly different file system. I can't think it would be possible.

Not that I actually know much about Macs....

haha. lol.


hmm was going to say if you stick with the pc there is free software called KraMixer. It might look a bit crap but i used to use this and never had a problem if you dont want to spend money.


I only think macs are for photoshop and video editing really.

[BeerFunk]

I'll re-iterate my original post which I think highlights the key point here - why would you go the hassle and expense of using a Mac over a PC?

:confused:


If you mean safer in terms of viruses, that is apparently true but if your PC is not exposed to and danger (ie. connected to the net, other machines etc) and is a dedicated machine - it is 100% safe!

[Jiggles]

I'll re-iterate my original post which I think highlights the key point here - why would you go the hassle and expense of using a Mac over a PC?

:confused:

A mac starts in under 30 seconds PC 1min! :) A nice extra 30 secs to look at your disco and make it look better!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

A mac starts in under 30 seconds PC 1min! :) A nice extra 30 secs to look at your disco and make it look better!

Surely that would depend on the spec of your machines? :confused:

[Tom]

Surely that would depend on the spec of your machines? :confused:

i agree but my cheap £440 packard bell laptop starts up in aobut 60 seconds. and thats from pressing the power button to loading the program. im happy with that. plus would you want to spend about £700 for a mac when a cheap laptop like mine will do the same job???

[DMX Will]

Surely that would depend on the spec of your machines? :confused:

To a degree. I'm not sure why Callum is even going on about them TBH, unless he's feeling lucky for Christmas....

Callum (BeerFunk) is right, just don't plug your PC into any internet. I do plug my machine into my network, as I don't particually want to type out entire CDs worth of ID3 tags....although I have a very restrictive firewall set both on the PC (which is automatic, but I shut off when I'm not plugged into the network [saves resources at gigs]) and on my home network.

I have never, EVER, EVER had my PC die on me, and I use it 2 or 3 times a week in a live situation. It's not even that great a spec, 2.2Ghz, Gig of ram...that's nothing these days.

The problems will arise, Callum, if you install MSN, Skype etc, and read your email on the PC, randomly browse the internet. These are the threats to your DJ PC.

Other programs also can affect its performance, but I quite easily run WYG and AutoCad for my Lighting designs (as Vista, my main PC, doesn't like).

I suggest you continue as you are with your PC, until it gives you a reason not to continue with it.

[Tom]

i think will and beerfunk have spoken. its all quite in here now. lol

[jamesh]

Yep :lol:

Although to be fair it was answering your question.....

I think PCDJ VJ may also be mac compatible when it's released :rolleyes:

[sleah]

PCDJ Reflex is also going to be available on the Mac, on the day it's released, if that EVER happens!!!

[DJ James Lake]

All new macs have intel chips and are capable of dual boot so can run mac osx, windows XP or vista so software isnt a problem whatsover.

Native mac dj programs are Traktor DJ Studio, Traktor Scratch, Serato Scratch, Ableton Live and Virtual DJ, so plenty to choose from

[Jiggles]

Well Daz i have a laptop at school which is worth £1000 and it take 2mins 30 secs to load to the log in screen!!! then another min to log in and is only 1 month old!!! So a mac DJ laptop would be a lot better!! and i have a £500 laptop at home and its a year old and it takes about 5 Min's to load it doesnt have any unnecessary programs on it!

[Arnold_disco]

Well Daz i have a laptop at school which is worth £1000 and it take 2mins 30 secs to load to the log in screen!!! then another min to log in and is only 1 month old!!! So a mac DJ laptop would be a lot better!! and i have a £500 laptop at home and its a year old and it takes about 5 Min's to load it doesnt have any unnecessary programs on it!

Yep ours at school do that. Its becuse its on a shared network that slows it down i think?

[Jiggles]

Yep ours at school do that. Its becuse its on a shared network that slows it down i think?

Well other other PCs around the school are very quick!

[Arnold_disco]

Well other other PCs around the school are very quick!

They may not be using wireless?

[Jiggles]

They may not be using wireless?

Geography is on the wireless!!!

[DMX Will]

Well Daz i have a laptop at school which is worth £1000 and it take 2mins 30 secs to load to the log in screen!!! then another min to log in and is only 1 month old!!! So a mac DJ laptop would be a lot better!! and i have a £500 laptop at home and its a year old and it takes about 5 Min's to load it doesnt have any unnecessary programs on it!

There are loads of factors to take into consideration when working out why something is "slow" booting/logging on.

We lock down our students very tightly indeed, this means the logon time is rather long. All the group policy settings have to be sucked off the domain controllers, onto the clients everytime. It may take a while, but we don't half run a tight ship.

If some machines are slower than others, then obviously age is a factor. Spec (mainly RAM and CPU speeds [note: laptops tend to have lower spec CPUs than desktop machines]), wireless as you've already said, and the general connection to the central switch. Also how ever many people are booting up PCs or logging on at the same time is something to consider. As domain policies are sucked from the network, when you boot a machine, and group policies when you log in (as I've said).

In conclusion: You can't rate a laptop's spec by it's price. I'm wondering why your school bought a laptop for a grand to be honest. It must be over-spec'd, or a complete rip off. We have 84 laptops across our school (for student loan, they come and collect for a lesson, and take them back to their classroom [entire school has wireless, WAP in every room]), these laptops were about £350. Made by Toshiba, 1GB ram 1.8 - 2Ghz CPU, Centrino, 15.4" Screen.

If the laptop isn't of that greater spec, I'd suggest to your school that they look a little harder before making any more I.T. purchases. :rolleyes: :eek: :D

[Tom]

you tell them will. :p

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Also, have a look at your list of things starting up when you boot the PC. Click on start - run - msconfig - start up and have a look at all the things starting up when you boot up. Most of them are un-necessary and slow your PC right down.

[Jiggles]

There are loads of factors to take into consideration when working out why something is "slow" booting/logging on.

We lock down our students very tightly indeed, this means the logon time is rather long. All the group policy settings have to be sucked off the domain controllers, onto the clients everytime. It may take a while, but we don't half run a tight ship.

If some machines are slower than others, then obviously age is a factor. Spec (mainly RAM and CPU speeds [note: laptops tend to have lower spec CPUs than desktop machines]), wireless as you've already said, and the general connection to the central switch. Also how ever many people are booting up PCs or logging on at the same time is something to consider. As domain policies are sucked from the network, when you boot a machine, and group policies when you log in (as I've said).

In conclusion: You can't rate a laptop's spec by it's price. I'm wondering why your school bought a laptop for a grand to be honest. It must be over-spec'd, or a complete rip off. We have 84 laptops across our school (for student loan, they come and collect for a lesson, and take them back to their classroom [entire school has wireless, WAP in every room]), these laptops were about £350. Made by Toshiba, 1GB ram 1.8 - 2Ghz CPU, Centrino, 15.4" Screen.

If the laptop isn't of that greater spec, I'd suggest to your school that they look a little harder before making any more I.T. purchases. :rolleyes: :eek: :D

we bought our laptops from RM an sinse we moved from wid 98 system to win XP the whole school network has almost grinded to a hault due to the speeds of the compuers. one of our maths teachers has a mac on the network and is the best pc in the school!

[DMX Will]

When you say network, what are we talking here. A domain? or Workgroup?

I've never used a Mac with a Windows domain before.

RM stuff is expensive, but they build it for schools. Can't see them being so expensive that they cost a grand each....unless your adding every single add-on and frill to them.

[Jiggles]

When you say network, what are we talking here. A domain? or Workgroup?

I've never used a Mac with a Windows domain before.

RM stuff is expensive, but they build it for schools. Can't see them being so expensive that they cost a grand each....unless your adding every single add-on and frill to them.

YEs thay are that expensive! we have just bought a class set of 10 for £10,000!

[Tom]

YEs thay are that expensive! we have just bought a class set of 10 for £10,000!

why???

[Jiggles]

why???


so we can use them! or they have money to burn :eek: dunno they just said we have bought new laptops at a total of £10,000! :eek:

[Tom]

if you get pc's then im sure you can get more for your money with better specs (i reakon anyway)

[Jiggles]

if you get pc's then im sure you can get more for your money with better specs (i reakon anyway)

Yep not my fault that my schools wastes there money or crap equipment!!! its the councils fault!! :D

[DMX Will]

How big are your classes? 10 doesn't sound very big to me.

You might get better spec'd machines....but they wouldn't be portable, which is exactly why laptops are more expensive in the first place.

Here you go...heres a computer....monitor....keyboard....mouse....networ k cable....power cable, off you go.

[Tom]

not being funny but i thought this was a DJ forum and not about school.

and if im right i thought u wanted to get a mac and i just saiud that you can get pc's that might run better than a mac and you just agreed with me???

correct me if im wrong (which i probelly am anyway)

[Jiggles]

not being funny but i thought this was a DJ forum and not about school.

and if im right i thought u wanted to get a mac and i just saiud that you can get pc's that might run better than a mac and you just agreed with me???

correct me if im wrong (which i probelly am anyway)

Well what i was saying was that you could get better specs for PCs for that price but the council tell use what computers ect to get and well you this is what you get! :bang:

[DMX Will]

Well what i was saying was that you could get better specs for PCs for that price but the council tell use what computers ect to get and well you this is what you get! :bang:

That can't be right. I doubt it very much the council tell you what to buy. One man decides what we're going to buy at my school. The I.T. Manager. He may discuss it with us, his fellow technicians, but he has the decision. Not even the head says "this one".

I'd check your facts Callum, because that doesn't sound right at all mate.

[Tom]

well when i was at school there was only RM computer but now they still have RM computers but with dual core and all that stuff.

They have mac's but only in the creative suit. They got 24x G5 and everything on them but thats only for art students and anyone that needs them for that power. mplus 2 teachers have to be in the room even if one kid was in there. rules are rules they say

But as far as all the other laptops ans pc in school there are all running microsoft and never have a problem. plus iv heard that thay have been given a licence for 300 computers for vista. its costing them so much ££££££££ but the school has been given a new status so they get an extra £5,000,000 a year.


i think pc's are better anyday.

[Tom]

That can't be right. I doubt it very much the council tell you what to buy. One man decides what we're going to buy at my school. The I.T. Manager. He may discuss it with us, his fellow technicians, but he has the decision. Not even the head says "this one".

I'd check your facts Callum, because that doesn't sound right at all mate.

i have to agree with will here.

[Jiggles]

That can't be right. I doubt it very much the council tell you what to buy. One man decides what we're going to buy at my school. The I.T. Manager. He may discuss it with us, his fellow technicians, but he has the decision. Not even the head says "this one".

I'd check your facts Callum, because that doesn't sound right at all mate.

we don't have a IT manager in the school only a tech (Useless tho! its taken him over 4 months to replace one of the teacher's PCs He keeps "forgetting" to get one.) everything is controlled from the Scottish Borders Council HQ 60 miles away!! Its abit like a big network!!

[DMX Will]

we don't have a IT manager in the school only a tech (Useless tho! its taken him over 4 months to replace one of the teacher's PCs He keeps "forgetting" to get one.) everything is controlled from the Scottish Borders Council HQ 60 miles away!! Its abit like a big network!!

It's called a WAN (Wide Area Network) we are connected to one, and have a 10mb up, 10mb down connection to the county, who provide our internet, for a mere £4,000 a year. They try to control us, but we have rebelled against it, and now only use their Internet.

We over took their email system with Exchange 2007 this summer, I think we're one of the best schools in our area in terms of I.T. with a 200k anual budget, 25 servers. Full Citrix metaframe and now Exchange 2007. We're soon to move our phone system completely over to Voice over IP.

I'm really suprised that you only have one tech for an entire secondary school. We have 6 including myself.

[DMX Will]

But as far as all the other laptops ans pc in school there are all running microsoft and never have a problem. plus iv heard that thay have been given a licence for 300 computers for vista. its costing them so much ££££££££ but the school has been given a new status so they get an extra £5,000,000 a year.

It's called the Schools Licensing Agreement. We spend about £30k a year on it. Basically entitles us to run endless copies of most Microsoft software, and because you then become a volume license user, you get everything prior release. We're also licensed to give staff copies of Office, XP and Vista. Hence how I had a copy of Vista and Office 2007 6 months prior to it being launched in the UK :D

[Jiggles]

They try to control us, but we have rebelled against it, and now only use their Internet.



That sounds like a good idea :D:D:D

[Tom]

Hence how I had a copy of Vista and Office 2007 6 months prior to it being launched in the UK :D

not bad :D :D :D

[Arnold_disco]

Not bad at all.

[Jiggles]

Cool I have found a free DJ program from Apple. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/discoxt.html

[Tom]

shame its only a demo

[Jiggles]

eh that's false advertising! It said free on the link i clicked! :angry:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

eh that's false advertising! It said free on the link i clicked! :angry:

Why? It's a free demo! :sj:

[Tom]

i thought most demo's were limiting on what you can do and how long the program lasts for.