iPod question

[rob1963]

I've just finished ripping my CDs into iTunes at 256kb, as I'm planning on going digital next year using a Cortex HDC-1000 and an iPod.

For back up, I expect to carry a second iPod which will also contain my full music library, as well as a single CD player & wallet of party CDs.

However, someone has told me that you can only dump your iTunes music library onto ONE iPod.

Is this true?

Or was he talking toilet?

:shrug:

[BeerFunk]

I don't know why you didn't get a Creative Zen instead - uses standard MP3 with no limitations or anything.

(Oh, and I don't know the answer to your question :p)

[Corabar Steve]

Not compatable with iTunes though is it?

[rob1963]

(Oh, and I don't know the answer to your question :p)

Thanks very much for your help, BeerFunk.

I'm very grateful!

:rolleyes: :p

[Corabar Steve]

I think that's right actually

[rob1963]

If that's the case, is there any way I can get my iTunes library onto a second iPod?

[Corabar Entertainment]

Surely it would only be downloaded music that would be limited? Not your ripped CDs????

[Corabar Steve]

Rip the whole lot again onto another computer.:sj:

The restriction only applies to tracks purchased from iTunes store

[BeerFunk]

Not compatable with iTunes though is it?
Yes, well I said that under the assumption you wouldn't have anything to do with itunes, as it is :Rob James:

If it was of any use, this thread wouldn't exist :D

[rob1963]

Surely it would only be downloaded music that would be limited? Not your ripped CDs????

I have no idea, Angela.

I've only just ripped my CDs to iTunes, and I've never had or used an iPod, so I'm a bit like Stevie Wonder...completely in the dark.

[Corabar Steve]

But Rob has been ripping with iTunes :P

[Penfold42]

I've only just ripped my CDs to iTunes, and I've never had or used an iPod, so I'm a bit like Stevie Wonder...completely in the dark.

Your in the dark.......it's gone right over my head.......:o :)

[rob1963]

The restriction only applies to tracks purchased from iTunes store

Thanks Steve,

So if I also buy some stuff from the iTunes store, and then try dumping my iTunes music library onto the second iPod, am I right in thinking that it will only dump the tracks from my ripped CDs & not the stuff I purchased from the iTunes store?

...or won't it work at all?

[Corabar Steve]

So burn a CD then rip it?

[BeerFunk]

So burn a CD then rip it?
Waste of a CD - burn to a virtual drive (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php) then rip it from that :)

[Corabar Steve]

Clever

[rob1963]

So burn a CD then rip it?

Oh yeah!

I guess that would work!

[Corabar Steve]

There may be a DRM issue though.

[BeerFunk]

The DRM disappears once burned to audio CD format, it isn't compatible (thank the lord)

[Sam]

i think you may get away with a second ipod..
me and my bro often share tunes..

Also an interesting one.. you can have iTunes on up to 5 PCs with your payed for purchases... so you pay once.. get to have it stored on five machines

[rob1963]

i think you may get away with a second ipod..
me and my bro often share tunes.

Thanks AsTecDJs.

I think you're right.

It appears that you can transfer your iTunes music library (including ripped CDs AND songs purchased form the iTunes store) to ANY number of iPods, as I found the following info about DRM on Wikipedia:


FairPlay is a digital rights management (DRM) technology created by Apple Inc., based on technology created by the company Veridisc. FairPlay is built into the QuickTime multimedia software and used by the iPhone, iPod, iTunes, and iTunes Store. Any protected song purchased from the iTunes Store with iTunes is encoded with FairPlay. FairPlay digitally encrypts AAC audio files and prevents users from playing these files on unauthorized computers.

The majority of FairPlay-encrypted content is purchased through the iTunes Store, using the iTunes jukebox software. The iTunes jukebox software relies on Apple's Quicktime multimedia software for decoding and playback of the encrypted files.


Here's the main bit which seems to answer my original question:


FairPlay-encrypted audio tracks allow the following:

The track may be copied to any number of iPod portable music players.[1]
The track may be played on up to five (originally three) authorized computers simultaneously.[1]
A particular playlist within iTunes containing a FairPlay-encrypted track can be copied to a CD only up to seven times (originally ten times) before the playlist must be changed.[2]
The track may be copied to a standard Audio CD any number of times.[2]
The resulting CD has no DRM and may be ripped, encoded and played back like any other CD. However, CDs created by users do not attain first sale rights and cannot be legally leased, lent, sold or distributed to others by the creator.
The CD audio still bears the artifacts of compression, so converting it back into a lossy format such as MP3 may aggravate the sound artifacts of encoding (see transcoding). When re-ripping such a CD one could use a lossless audio codec such as FLAC, however such files take up significantly more space than the original .m4p files

:)

[Sam]

:-)

Although one thing I know DOESN'T WORK is when you send a purchased file to someone ELSES itunes account.. (e.g Someone elses and not one of your 5 pcs.) ... it will just make you pay for a copy yourself.

[PropellerHeadCase]

But you can send tracks via iTunes to other people, you just have to pay for it again is all.

[Sam]

Urm... yes.. i believe thats what i said..
And why send it? Why don't they just download it...

[rob1963]

None of that is a problem.

All my music is held on one computer.

The only thing I wanted to do which I wasn't sure about was to load my iTunes music library (including tracks purchased from the iTunes store) onto TWO different iPods instead of just one, which it seems is not a problem.

:D

[TonyB]

None of that is a problem.

All my music is held on one computer.

The only thing I wanted to do which I wasn't sure about was to load my iTunes music library (including tracks purchased from the iTunes store) onto TWO different iPods instead of just one, which it seems is not a problem.

:D

Just out of interest, did you change the ripped format in Itunes to MP3 or leave it as the default AAC Itunes format? Only reason I ask is that I don't think a Cortex will read AAC files when/if you get one.

Itunes are also now offering some tracks that are DRM free but they somehow encrypt the details of the purchaser that stays with the track even if it is burnt to disk. So if lots of copies of a track get distributed, they can trace the original source.

[CRAZY K]

I've just finished ripping my CDs into iTunes at 256kb, as I'm planning on going digital next year using a Cortex HDC-1000 and an iPod.

For back up, I expect to carry a second iPod which will also contain my full music library, as well as a single CD player & wallet of party CDs.

However, someone has told me that you can only dump your iTunes music library onto ONE iPod.

Is this true?

Or was he talking toilet?

:shrug:

I dont understand the itunes thing but heres a tip---

Dont mess about--why do half the job--for back up get a Laptop and another external hard drive and copy the tracks across--job done.

If it all goes belly up I wouldnt fancy trying to DJ off an ipod---and fumbling around with those things--what do you call them-- CDs:D

Laptop is easy---Dave ( Dragonfly ) is thinking maybe easier than Cortex--I think he may be right.

Its all tax deductible:D

CRAZY K

[rob1963]

Just out of interest, did you change the ripped format in Itunes to MP3 or leave it as the default AAC Itunes format? Only reason I ask is that I don't think a Cortex will read AAC files when/if you get one.

Hi Tony,

The only thing I changed when ripping my CDs was the speed (from 128 to 256), so they will have been ripped in the default AAC format.

Are you saying the Cortex won't work with an iPod unless the default format has been changed by the user from AAC to MP3?

:confused:

[Corabar Steve]

General Specifications:

Type of unit: Streaming Digital Audio Controller
Format compatibility: MP3, WAV, CD-Audio
MP3 format: 8 kbps ~ 320 kbps, CBR/VBR, 44.1 kHz
WAV format: 44.1 kHz, 16 bit stereo
Instant Start: <0.1 second
Pitch ranges: 4, 8, 16, 24%
Pitch increment: 0.05% at 4 and 8% 0.1% at 16 and 24%
Power: AC 100~240V, 50/60 Hz
Power consumption: 12 watts
Operating environment humidity: 5-85%
Dimensions: 19" x 5.2" x 3.6" (482 x 132 x 91 mm)
Weight: 3.75 lbs. (1.7 kg)
Power supply: USA 110v 059-370-R VDE (Europe) 059-371-R UK 059-372-R JIS (Japan) 059-373Doesn't look like it Rob.

[rob1963]

Just out of interest, did you change the ripped format in Itunes to MP3 or leave it as the default AAC Itunes format? Only reason I ask is that I don't think a Cortex will read AAC files when/if you get one.

Hi Tony,

The only thing I changed when ripping my CDs was the speed (from 128 to 256), so they will have been ripped in the default AAC format.

Are you saying the Cortex won't work with an iPod unless the default format has been changed by the user from AAC to MP3?

If that's the case, is there a way to convert the ripped CDs in my iTunes library from the AAC format to MP3? or will I have to rip them again?

:confused:

[Corabar Steve]

Rob,

Open iTunes click Edit, then Preferences. Click the Advanced tab, then Importing. What does it say in the import using box?

[Corabar Steve]

If that's the case, is there a way to convert the ripped CDs in my iTunes library from the AAC format to MP3? or will I have to rip them again?

:confused:

http://www.imtoo.com/wma-mp3-converter.html

[rob1963]

Rob,

Open iTunes click Edit, then Preferences. Click the Advanced tab, then Importing. What does it say in the import using box?


http://www.imtoo.com/wma-mp3-converter.html

Hi Steve,

I've already checked the default format using the method above, and it was indeed on the default AAC setting, so I'll need to convert the format of the CDs I've ripped from AAC to MP3 using the software on the link you posted.

Thanks very much for the info.

:)

[Penfold42]

I have absolutely no idea what people are going on about....:o :o :o

Can someone point me in the right direction of a thread that explains this a bit more.......please.:)

[CRAZY K]

I have absolutely no idea what people are going on about....:o :o :o

Can someone point me in the right direction of a thread that explains this a bit more.......please.:)

Speak to Dave ( Dragonfly ) hes been there --done it---done it again---got it right--then got the T Shirt---:D

If your thinking of going digital ?

CRAZY K

[Corabar Steve]

Hi Steve,

I've already checked the default format using the method above, and it was indeed on the default AAC setting, so I'll need to convert the format of the CDs I've ripped from AAC to MP3 using the software on the link you posted.

Thanks very much for the info.

:)

There are others, that's just the first I found.http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14278.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)
Looks like it will do the job & more (virtually any music file by the looks of things
ImTOO WMA MP3 Converter offers easy, completed ways to convert all popular audio file formats to MP3, WMA. Beside converting WMA to MP3, the M4A/MP4 to MP3 converter also supports converting WAV, MP2, OGG, VQF , APE, M4A, MP4, AAC to MP3/WMA. impressive or what?).

Might be an idea to change the iTunes setting to MP3 encoder while you remember though.

[Penfold42]

Speak to Dave ( Dragonfly ) hes been there --done it---done it again---got it right--then got the T Shirt---:D

If your thinking of going digital ?

CRAZY K

Hey that's an idea.........he's got nothing to do for weeks......keep him off day time tv...............:D :D

I am once i've got my head round it.......:rolleyes:

[Corabar Steve]

There you go. We await the opening of Dragonfly Dave's Ripping Service :sj:

[Penfold42]

There you go. We await the opening of Dragonfly Dave's Ripping Service :sj:

Should be able to make a few quid on that.............:D

[CRAZY K]

Should be able to make a few quid on that.............:D

SOMEONE BETTER TELL HIM HES OPEN FOR BUSINESS:D :D :D

Crazy K

[Penfold42]

SOMEONE BETTER TELL HIM HES OPEN FOR BUSINESS:D :D :D

Crazy K

Why.....:confused:

Let him read it..........give him something to look forward to.......:D :D :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

No need to shout Alan :sj:

[CRAZY K]

No need to shout Alan :sj:

Well Daves not logging on presumably--so he needs to hear us:D

CRAZY K

[rob1963]

There you go. We await the opening of Dragonfly Dave's Ripping Service :sj:

I'm not sure I like that for a business name, I think he should call it:

"Let One Rip"

:Laugh:

[PB Entertainments]

I've just finished ripping my CDs into iTunes at 256kb, as I'm planning on going digital next year using a Cortex HDC-1000 and an iPod.

For back up, I expect to carry a second iPod which will also contain my full music library, as well as a single CD player & wallet of party CDs.

However, someone has told me that you can only dump your iTunes music library onto ONE iPod.

Is this true?

Or was he talking toilet?

:shrug:

Hi Rob - I'm considering the same, wouldn't it be easier to use the Numark IDJ2? I'm not sure which will be better, the Cortex or the Numark though...

[rob1963]

Hi Rob - I'm considering the same, wouldn't it be easier to use the Numark IDJ2? I'm not sure which will be better, the Cortex or the Numark though...

Hi PB,

Cortex do a similar product to the Numark IDJ2, but to be honest, that type of thing doesn't appeal to me.

Firstly it costs £500, whereas I can get a Cortex HDC-1000 for about £350.

Secondly, something like the IDJ2 also contains mixer facilities, which I don't need. I already have a 2-4-2 carpet console containing my dual CD player & mixer, so if I get a Cortex HDC-1000, I can simply mount it in my console in place of the existing controller for my dual CD player.

Then I can just use it with my existing mixer, which is only a few months old anyway.

I like the look of the HDC-1000, I like the fact that it has a screen for each player, and above all I like it's simplicity.

I don't see the point of paying extra for something which has a load of extra features which I simply wouldn't use.

:)