Stairville DMX and skytec scanners.

[Dillmiester]

Hi all!
Im keen to get my head around this DMX business so I have bought a Stairville DMX Master 1 (I believed it comes in a few other guises as well).
I plan to use this with my two Skytec Robo Scans first and then when im up and running add my mojo spinmasters, Led par cans and smoke machine.

I was feeling confidant having read DMX Wills guide and the manual for the controller and lights!!!

But nothing is happening :(
Everything is powerd up. DMX out goes to scanner 1 which has just dip switch 1 on. Then onto second scanner which has dip switch 7 on. Based on each light having 6 channels, have i got this right?

Im not sure if this is a controller, dipswitch or a opperator problem (dipstick)

please help folks!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

It doesn't sound like that you've actually programmed anything yet?

[Thames Valley Discos]

Depends how many channels each light uses.
If light one uses say 12 , then that setting is wrong
sorry see it has 6 mis read

[Dillmiester]

It doesn't sound like that you've actually programmed anything yet?

I assumed that "Auto" on the controller would give me some action until I get around to making scenes etc?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I assumed that "Auto" on the controller would give me some action until I get around to making scenes etc?

I don't think so.

[Thames Valley Discos]

na, like Darren said, nothing programmed although you should be able to use the slider/joystick to move the scanners without programming scenes
And second light should be set to address 17

[Thames Valley Discos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svs--6XgRIY

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svs--6XgRIY

"Light fittings" :confused: :D

[Tom]

are we talking about this contorller

http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_dmxmaster_i.htm


because on the back i think there is an audio input. would it work if you plugged your mixer output into the audio input of the controller then the lights would move automatically???

[Thames Valley Discos]

"Light fittings" :confused: :D

DMX lighting controller programming part 1:confused:

[Thames Valley Discos]

are we talking about this contorller

http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_dmxmaster_i.htm


because on the back i think there is an audio input. would it work if you plugged your mixer output into the audio input of the controller then the lights would move automatically???
It should work with no inputs , to get it programmed you must be able to set the lights first, so it should work manually from the controller. You will also need a terminator on the last dmx light in the chain.
Press fixture one button on the left, then try moving a slider. Light one should work.
Put light 2 dips to 17, press fixture 2 button , you will then controll light 2 with the sliders.

[Tom]

It should work with no inputs , to get it programmed you must be able to set the lights first, so it should work manually from the controller. You will also need a terminator on the last dmx light in the chain

i understand all that. iv been doing a bit of reading.

anyway.



are all the lights setup correctly with the DIP's in the right place??? and all the leads in the right inputs???

[Thames Valley Discos]

i understand all that. iv been doing a bit of reading.

anyway.



are all the lights setup correctly with the DIP's in the right place??? and all the leads in the right inputs???
Should be impossible to plug lights in the wrong place as they are male/female.Each light has a male/female as does the leads

[Tom]

Should be impossible to plug lights in the wrong place as they are male/female.Each light has a male/female as does the leads

depends on the light. my smart scans have 3 ports.

1x 5 pin female input
1x 3 pin female input
1x 3 pin male output


and on my x4 mojo spins 3
1x 3 pin male input
1x 3 pin female output


but i know what you mean

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

i understand all that. iv been doing a bit of reading.



Not about DMX controllers obviously...:rolleyes:




because on the back i think there is an audio input. would it work if you plugged your mixer output into the audio input of the controller then the lights would move automatically???

[Tom]

i was just going by whats on the back of the controller from the picture

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

i was just going by whats on the back of the controller from the picture

Ah, so you weren't reading, you were looking at pictures. :p

[Sam]

I assumed that "Auto" on the controller would give me some action until I get around to making scenes etc?

Have you read the manual???
Auto means that it will go through the the scenes you have programmed and put into your bank(s).
So it will go through scenes 1- 8 in bank 2.. and will go from scene 1 to scene 2 at the desired time distance.. and will go through the change and the set time.. which are adjusted by the two right hand faders.


The controller *does not* let the lights do stuff without programming!
To get going you need to select the 'fixture' eg. Scanner 1.. and then adjust the sliders.. to make it do stuff.

If that makes sense :-)

[Dillmiester]

Thanks chaps, excellent advice as always!
I think im going to get used to the led par cans first (as they are the same as the youtube guy) then move onto the scanners. No running before I can walk and all that!

[Thames Valley Discos]

Just remember that although the controller has 16 channels, your lights only have 6. So sliders 1-6 will operate your lights. Read the light fixture manual to see what each channel does. Then use the sliders 1-6. 1 being channel 1 of the light fixture, 6 being channel 6.

[Sam]

Just remember that although the controller has 16 channels, your lights only have 6. So sliders 1-6 will operate your lights. Read the light fixture manual to see what each channel does. Then use the sliders 1-6. 1 being channel 1 of the light fixture, 6 being channel 6.

I learnt DMX on my 15 channel moving heads :p :eek: lol! took me a while..

If your still having problems.. give us a shout on here.. or add me on msn.. and I can go through stuff 'real time' or even fire up the old webcam and show you what i do on my acme dmx master (same as yours)

:-)

[Thames Valley Discos]

Must admit though, i see little point in DMX for the average mobile disco gig.
Large fixed or semi permanent sites yes, but mobile work in hall and hotels?
Every room is different in size. DMX really comes into its own when programmed to the music, so really does seem pointless to me

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Must admit though, i see little point in DMX for the average mobile disco gig.
Large fixed or semi permanent sites yes, but mobile work in hall and hotels?
Every room is different in size. DMX really comes into its own when programmed to the music, so really does seem pointless to me

BUt what about slow scanning fixtures for a first dance or a spotlight moment?

I remember seeing the first vid you put up on here and you had scanners going absoluely mental to a slow song and I did think at the time that you could do with a bit of DMXing there!

There are occasions when I think it looks great, and as we've said before, every little bit extra counts towards the big picture.

[Sam]

yes.. everyone room is different.. thats why, if use it to it's potential, you spend some time to just re-program the movers so that they 'use' the space available. - it doesn't take long and it isn't hard...
And if you have some software with 3d-visualistion you can do it before the disco.. as long as you check out the venue / know it.

Dmx has huge advantages for any disco... although I do use a mixture of P&P and dmx features... but it looks great.. and i;m happy with it....and it gives me something to play with

[Vectis]

Must admit though, i see little point in DMX for the average mobile disco gig.
Large fixed or semi permanent sites yes, but mobile work in hall and hotels?
Every room is different in size. DMX really comes into its own when programmed to the music, so really does seem pointless to me

Agree.

I have about 7 or 8 programs for the venues I play regularly (relating to Paul's "semi-permanent" comment). Otherwise I use my desk to control colour during first dances and for positioning heads onto mirrorballs for smoochie numbers. The rest of the night they go on sound-to-light or a CA8 or similar.

[Dillmiester]

Im learning fast (makes a change) just got to work out how to make two scanners do a different effect on the same scene next. ie one points left one points right...

[Dillmiester]

Must admit though, i see little point in DMX for the average mobile disco gig.
Large fixed or semi permanent sites yes, but mobile work in hall and hotels?
Every room is different in size. DMX really comes into its own when programmed to the music, so really does seem pointless to me

Mainly because I want to slow the effects down for some tunes. AND I dont like the way the scanners spend time on the walls and ceilings, I want to bring them in a bit so they spend most of the time on the dancefloor.

[Thames Valley Discos]

BUt what about slow scanning fixtures for a first dance or a spotlight moment?

I remember seeing the first vid you put up on here and you had scanners going absoluely mental to a slow song and I did think at the time that you could do with a bit of DMXing there!

There are occasions when I think it looks great, and as we've said before, every little bit extra counts towards the big picture.

I think DMX used in the right place, programmed to the music, looks fantastic.
But like i said, for the general mobile work i see little point.
I have tried it but now leave the controller at home. Its just one more thing to work with while cueing a song, taking a request, sipping a beer:beer1: .

[Thames Valley Discos]

Mainly because I want to slow the effects down for some tunes. AND I dont like the way the scanners spend time on the walls and ceilings, I want to bring them in a bit so they spend most of the time on the dancefloor.

I can see the point in that. But you need it running all night because if you turn the controller off, you turn your lights off, and if you use the
S2L feature of the controller you then get a poor light show waisting the effects internal programme

[Sam]

ok.. we get it.. you don't like dmx.
But this is about someone who wants to get into.. so let's help him out.

[Thames Valley Discos]

ok.. we get it.. you don't like dmx.
But this is about someone who wants to get into.. so let's help him out.

have you read my posts? is that not helping? :confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I think DMX used in the right Its just one more thing to work with while cueing a song, taking a request, sipping a beer:beer1: .

How is it one more thing to work with?

Set it up and off it goes surely?

[Dillmiester]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svs--6XgRIY

This was very helpfull!
Thanks again!

[Thames Valley Discos]

How is it one more thing to work with?

Set it up and off it goes surely?

Then you are using it as a glorified S2L controller, with the abbilitty to slow them down(CA-8 controller) How do you program it as a follow spot then? Do you get the Bride and Groom to plot their moves before the function?
For a large disco using many effects dmx is needed, but for people like us with 4-8 effects?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Then you are useing it as a glorified S2L controller. How do you program it as a follow spot then? Do you get the Bride and Groom to plot their moves before the function?

I assume you use the joystick if there is one.

I'm no expert and would never profess to be, but I can see the benefits as told to me by such experts as DMX Wiiiiiiiiiill and Jamie Whitehouse.

How long did you use a controller for and what with before you decided it was no good for what you want?

[Sam]

Then you are using it as a glorified S2L controller, with the abbilitty to slow them down(CA-8 controller) How do you program it as a follow spot then? Do you get the Bride and Groom to plot their moves before the function?
For a large disco using many effects dmx is needed, but for people like us with 4-8 effects?



Not quite sure why you say that.
As a Pro theatre followspotter & technician i can assure you we do not program in the followspots!
They are manually operated.. just as you do it with dmx.
Basically the best way to do it is only use one fixture.. and then use the faders (and maybe the joystick but it isn't very accurate) to slowly follow the bride and groom around.

Although I should point out i'm not a fan of doing this as it isn't very accurate and doesn't look very good.. and you normally end up lighting them from the back.. so not beneficial to the 'audience' anyway..

[Thames Valley Discos]

Not quite sure why you say that.
As a Pro theatre followspotter & technician i can assure you we do not program in the followspots!
..
I know that!, my comment was for Darren, who was questioning the fact that it was one more thing to use.
Controlling a joystick is one more thing to use, in my books anyway.
Please read the threads
Look at post 32

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I know that!, my comment was for Darren, who was questioning the fact that it was one more thing to use.
Controlling a joystick is one more thing to use, in my books anyway.
Please read the threads
Look at post 32

Stop being so picky! :p

[Thames Valley Discos]

ok.. we get it.. you don't like dmx.
But this is about someone who wants to get into.. so let's help him out.

read post 33

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

read post 33

And post 35. :D

[Thames Valley Discos]

Stop being so picky! :p

i don't know, knippers just out of school in their first job!:D

[Thames Valley Discos]

And post 35. :D

after the event:p

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

after the event:p

So...what's the answer then? :)

[Thames Valley Discos]

So...what's the answer then? :)

what was the question again?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

what was the question again?

Never mind, I've lost the will to live...

Guinness time! :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :thumbsup:

[Thames Valley Discos]

Never mind, I've lost the will to live...

Guinness time! :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :guinness: :thumbsup:

now that is a good idea.:guinness: :guinness:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

now that is a good idea.:guinness: :guinness:

OI! Leave mine alone. :boxer2:

[Thames Valley Discos]

answer to post 35.
About 2 months. Looked great at home when i programmed it, but totally different when in a big hall or hotel room. Never really worked with the music.
As for slow dances, i just turn all lights off apart from the LED curtain and my LED bars.
DMX is really in truth for making lights react to the music, specific pre planned playlists, for shows , live concerts etc where the music is all pre planned

[Sam]

i don't know, knippers just out of school in their first job!:D

temp job moee like.
I'm at college and start pilot training next year.

And anyway, yes reading back on it fair enough.. sorry :-)
Just don't like all the negatives about dmx ;).. but it is your opinion so I can't complain :-)

[Thames Valley Discos]

DMX is hardly a science, its just a very basic addressing like TCP IP on pcs.
The art is in having the patience in programming it.

[Corabar Steve]

So can you program how far left & right, up & down you want your lights to go & then set the controller to sound to light & all your lights will stay within the parameters you set?

[Thames Valley Discos]

So can you program how far left & right, up & down you want your lights to go & then set the controller to sound to light & all your lights will stay within the parameters you set?
NO.
You can set them as you say, but you then let the controller run through the program YOU have created.
The controller will run S2L though.
Basically you sit down for an afternoon( or a weekend), program every move of every light, save that program in the controller called " scenes"
When finished it will run the program you ask it to.
So one program may be just two effects running slow for a slow dance, other programs may be full on all lights strobing , or all lights set with red filter on etc

[Corabar Steve]

Oh .

[Thames Valley Discos]

Its a bit like making a cartoon say Wallace and Grommet, where the final scene (film) is made from months of moving the figures one move at a time

[Sam]

Its a bit like making a cartoon say Wallace and Grommet, where the final scene (film) is made from months of moving the figures one move at a time

yup..
although computer programs can make it easier.. specially with movers..
Instead of setting up every single 'step'.. you can use pre-defined movement patterns or make your own.. saving quite a lot of tedious work.

Totally agree with the patience factor though!

[Corabar Steve]

What about using it to coordinate all the colours of your lights? I don't suppose you can do that & then go sound to light either?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

What about using it to coordinate all the colours of your lights? I don't suppose you can do that & then go sound to light either?

In my limited knowledge of it, yes you can.

[Thames Valley Discos]

you can do what you say, but not in s2l

[Thames Valley Discos]

In my limited knowledge of it, yes you can.

not in s2l, using the controller programmed you can

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

you can do what you say, but not in s2l

Why not? The programmes just run through using the mic on the controller

[Sam]

In my limited knowledge of it, yes you can.

no.. not in sound to light mode.
If you want to run them sound to light.. either don't get a controller or don't plug it in (unless your using the CA-8 that Darren mentioned)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Hang on, getting confused here.

Are you telling me that DMX controllers don't run using the mic that is normally in the controller somewhere?

[Thames Valley Discos]

Why not? The programmes just run through using the mic on the controller

But your not using the programs if it is in S2L

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

But your not using the programs if it is in S2L

Alright then, using the mic built in to the controller?

[Thames Valley Discos]

Hang on, getting confused here.

Are you telling me that DMX controllers don't run using the mic that is normally in the controller somewhere?
Yes they can, but as it says S2L. The programs are totally independant to that

[Thames Valley Discos]

Alright then, using the mic built in to the controller?

Still no i'm affraid.
See why i stopped using it now?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Yes they can, but as it says S2L. The programs are totally independant to that

Yeah, but there are no programmes built in, so how can that be so?

[Thames Valley Discos]

The controllers S2L is a very basic compared to the built in programs in the effects themselves.
To run lights in say one colour, or one position, or with one gobo, you must run the scenes you pre programmed, not using the built in S2L

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Anyway, I've got a Martin playback controller which has some great slow, medium and fast programmes to suit all music and it has a S2L facility too.

[Thames Valley Discos]

Yeah, but there are no programmes built in, so how can that be so?

Well the S2L works like the old days, or the same way as say your star curtain works in S2L mode

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Well the S2L works like the old days, or the same way as say your star curtain works in S2L mode

I haven't got S2L on my starcloth booth ;) :D :cool:

[Thames Valley Discos]

Anyway, I've got a Martin playback controller which has some great slow, medium and fast programmes to suit all music and it has a S2L facility too.
That is just cheating.:D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

That is just cheating.:D

Yep.

Anyone want to buy a DMX controller. :D

[Thames Valley Discos]

I haven't got S2L on my starcloth booth ;) :D :cool:

Should have, among the other programs on the controller. Mine can run S2L

[Thames Valley Discos]

Anyone want to buy a DMX controller. :D
Make that 2

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Should have, among the other programs on the controller. Mine can run S2L

You got a booth then? :rolleyes:

[Thames Valley Discos]

umm na, i was talking about the starcloth

[Corabar Entertainment]

So have I got this right..... you spend hours programming light sequences, the movements, the areas covered, the colours, etc and when you set that programme off and running it just goes at whatever speed you have programmed it to go (slow, medium, or fast) and doesn't interact with the music in any way whatsoever???? :confused:

Surely I must have interpreted this thread incorrectly.... someone please tell me I have! :eek:

[Sam]

that is an option.
But most controllers have a mic... or a mic input so that the scenes you have set can be 'triggered' by sound.

[Corabar Entertainment]

So why are Darren and Paul saying they don't work/move S2L? :confused: :confused: (More confused than ever!)

[Thames Valley Discos]

no.. not in sound to light mode.
If you want to run them sound to light.. either don't get a controller or don't plug it in (unless your using the CA-8 that Darren mentioned)


that is an option.
But most controllers have a mic... or a mic input so that the scenes you have set can be 'triggered' by sound.

?????????

[Sam]

because it isn't standard S2L
YOu still have to program everything.. it doesn't work it out for itself... only makes it go through the scenes to the beat

SO..
with controller = it runs through what you have set-up... to the beat
WITHOUT = it creates its own lightshow..

Make sense?

[Thames Valley Discos]

Well i'm not aware of being able to run the programs pre done by ones self in S2L mode

[Thames Valley Discos]

because it isn't standard S2L
YOu still have to program everything.. it doesn't work it out for itself... only makes it go through the scenes to the beat

SO..
with controller = it runs through what you have set-up... to the beat
WITHOUT = it creates its own lightshow..

Make sense?

oh ok, understand you now, i think

[Sam]

Yes.. there is a 'music' option in the
'manual' / 'auto' / 'music' modes on the ACME dmx master .. and its rebrands.. and this is the case on many other controllers as they have mic inputs

[Sam]

oh ok, understand you now, i think

:) :cool:

[Thames Valley Discos]

SO..
with controller = it runs through what you have set-up... to the beat
WITHOUT = it creates its own lightshow..

Make sense?
no,
Without a controller it would run from the effects if all the DMX cables were unpluged

[Thames Valley Discos]

I'm digging mine out tomorrow to see.

[Corabar Steve]

Is S2L Txt spk? :sj:

[Sam]

no,
Without a controller it would run from the effects if all the DMX cables were unpluged

that's what i meant really.

[Corabar Entertainment]

So, if I understand you correctly Sam.....

With DMX Controller - you programme the movement, colour, etc of the lights and can set it off to work those movements to the beat of the music (in laymens terms, it moves to the music therefore 'sound to light')

Without DMX Controller - it runs through it's own movements, colours, etc to the beat of the music (ie S2L)

..... which is what I assumed / understood before I read this thread! :eek:

[Corabar Steve]

no,
Without a controller it would run from the effects if all the DMX cables were unpluged

Unless of course you set the first as master & the rest as slave :sj:

[Thames Valley Discos]

Unless of course you set the first as master & the rest as slave :sj:

not when connected to the controller, even i'm confused on something i know now, i need more beer

[Sam]

So, if I understand you correctly Sam.....

With DMX Controller - you programme the movement, colour, etc of the lights and can set it off to work those movements to the beat of the music (in laymens terms, it moves to the music therefore 'sound to light'_

Without DMX Controller - it runs through it's own movements, colours, etc to the beat of the music (ie S2L)

..... which is what I assumed / understood before I read this thread! :eek:


yeh.. although with the controller i don't find it works amazingly.. too jumpy between seens (eg. mic too sensitive on my controller)
But yes.. important thing to remember is you define *everything* and the beat just makes it go from scene 1 to scene 2

Without.. it goes through it's own inbuilt show..

YUp!;)

[Sam]

not when connected to the controller, even i'm confused on something i know now, i need more beer

therefore.. WITHOUT controller :)

[Thames Valley Discos]

Without DMX Controller - it runs through it's own movements, colours, etc to the beat of the music (ie S2L)

..... which is what I assumed / understood before I read this thread! :eek:

not if still connected to the controller, and you would then need to reset all the dmx switches on the effects too

[Thames Valley Discos]

therefore.. WITHOUT controller :)
And all the dmx settings on the lights would be ignored?
They are no longer set master slave, they are set to addresses 1, 17, 33 etc
You cant just unplug the controller and revert back to normal Sound To Light

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

that is an option.
But most controllers have a mic... or a mic input so that the scenes you have set can be 'triggered' by sound.


So why are Darren and Paul saying they don't work/move S2L? :confused: :confused: (More confused than ever!)

I didn't say that. (Did I?)

Where's DMX Will or Jamie when you need them?

[Sam]

And all the dmx settings on the lights would be ignored?
They are no longer set master slave, they are set to addresses 1, 17, 33 etc

NO!
i am not talking about just unplugging it!

I am talking generally.. controller vs no controller

[Thames Valley Discos]

:beer1: :beer1: :beer1: :beer1: :moon:

[Corabar Steve]

no,
Without a controller it would run from the effects if all the DMX cables were unpluged


Unless of course you set the first as master & the rest as slave :sj:


not when connected to the controller, even i'm confused on something i know now, i need more beer


not if still connected to the controller, and you would then need to reset all the dmx switches on the effects too
UM.......

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

As I said, where's Will When you need him..

[Corabar Entertainment]

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[Thames Valley Discos]

I thought you were assuming you could just switch the controller off then revert to the effects inbuilt S2L program.
Misunderstood

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

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You and me both Ang. (and this Guinness isn't helping....or maybe it is:D )

[Sam]

I thought you were assuming you could just switch the controller off then revert to the effects inbuilt S2L program.
Miss understood

nope..


as you say; that wouldn't work without changing the dips:)

[Corabar Entertainment]

Miss understoodWho's she? .... and what the heck has she got to do with DMX programming? :tongue2:

[Thames Valley Discos]

You and me both Ang. (and this Guinness isn't helping....or maybe it is:D )
Ah well, helped the original poster out.
You will see why i don't use mine after a month or two>

[Thames Valley Discos]

Who's she? .... and what the heck has she got to do with DMX programming? :tongue2:

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Miss understood!!!!

Hello?

[Thames Valley Discos]

Misunderstood, better.

[Corabar Entertainment]

I think we'd better give up on Paul tonight..... too much :guinness:

:D :D

[Thames Valley Discos]

I think we'd better give up on Paul tonight..... too much :guinness:

:D :D

oh yes, still 3 left yet:beer1:
but i think i now understand this thread, i got lost some where after the 4th guiness

[Corabar Steve]

oh yes, still 3 left yet:beer1:
Bung them this way, I've only got John Smiths

[Thames Valley Discos]

Bung them this way, I've only got John Smiths

How very dare you

[Corabar Steve]

Suppose I can't complain, it was free :sj: :approve: :sj:

[Thames Valley Discos]

Suppose I can't complain, it was free :sj: :approve: :sj:

mine was in a funny kind of way, i gave the misses the money, she bought them:D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Bung them this way, I've only got John Smiths

5 left here and a Caffreys :thumbsup:

[Corabar Steve]

mine was in a funny kind of way, i gave the misses the money, she bought them:D

For a split second there I thought you'd taken up shoplifting

[Dillmiester]

Wow, this is turning into a mamouth thread (what have I started),
Thanks for all the replies. Im going to soldier on with the controller for now.
Does anyone know how you set multiple lights to do different effects within one scene. ie The pars stay with a red wash whilst the scanners and barrels do something else.
At the moment its looking like one effect per scene?

[Thames Valley Discos]

You use the buttons on the left to choose the effect. select effect one get that effect where you want it, then select effect 2 and so on set them in a position/colour, then repeat all the above for the next position and so on untill you have a show then set it.
Like i say, think of an animation cartoon.
Move one character say a foot, then move another character one move and so on, then take a frame, do it again take anopther frame, eventually you have a animation film.
Buttons 1-12 on the left are for each effect in your show.
Button 1 effect 1 address1, button 2 effect 2 address17 and so on.
So,
Push button 1 adjust light 1, push button 2 and adjust light 2 and so on.
When all lights have been set for that part of the show set a scene, then just repeat untill finished.
Easier to talk and explain than type
Refer to these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svs--6XgRIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYw0Ztu_WY

[Dillmiester]

Yep, got it now, thanks!