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Thread: Pro Dub - Has it lived up to the hype?

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    Default Pro Dub - Has it lived up to the hype?

    Thought I'd ask how you feel Pro Dub has worked for you?

    Reason I ask? Well I sent an email to them highlighting my disappointment over the lack of enforcement over the licence.

    I have a residency at a very respectable holiday center and during a recent meeting about christmas functions for this year wegot a little off topic and Produb came up in the converstaion.

    Although they are aware of it ( i told them) and they have checked with them about what they are supposed to do (ie check the database) they still have not heard anything about it on a business level. It would appear it's not being enforced or publicised< (doubt thats spelt right) at all. Any way that what I emailed to complain about as I know a fair few don't have it & should do and I was wondering as to the point of continueing with it. At least 3 months on still no reply.

    Any similar experiences?

    (off topic) reference a thread elsewhere on the site that got a little heated?

    I am one of thoes disco people that a venue tries to encourage the client to use me as their disco - Why? It's free - built into the price of the function if you like so if they want to use another provider no problem they still get paid.

    Sorry had to get that in but I only read all about the fiasco tonight.
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    I get hacked off with the lack of enforcement not just for Produb but other areas. Someone can offer a "disco" with no Pat, PLI, downloaded music from illegal source, Produb, copied software i.e PCDJ, Cue etc.. and its all cash in the hand.

    Once more customers dont care if the dj is legit or not (well in most cases).
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    Once more customers dont care if the dj is legit or not (well in most cases).
    I would go furtehr and state many customers dont want ya all nice n legal as they know its gonna cost them more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Veal View Post
    Thought I'd ask how you feel Pro Dub has worked for you?
    How has it worked for me? It's worked well, simply because it's allowed me to operate legally, unlike many.

    Have any venues asked for it or even mentioned it? Of course not!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Veal View Post
    Reason I ask? Well I sent an email to them highlighting my disappointment over the lack of enforcement over the licence.
    I'm guessing that's because they don't have enough staff to enforce it as they'd like, although it's the same with many other things too.

    What about businesses who don't register to pay tax? What about the ones who have two sets of books, one accurate one & another for the tax man? What about the millions of cars with no tax, no insurance & no MOT?

    As professional business people, I think the important thing is to make sure that we DO operate legally, and not worry about what others are doing. If they want to break the law that's nothing to do with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Veal View Post
    Any way that what I emailed to complain about as I know a fair few don't have it & should do and I was wondering as to the point of continueing with it. At least 3 months on still no reply.
    I'm quite surprised you haven't had a reply to your email.

    I recently emailed ProDub about possible changes to the bands & costs for those renewing in year two, and received a reply within a few days.

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    i am not a big fan of produb myself at the moment, and it will be easy for this to turn into a lets have a dig thread, when they sort out the carrying back up and the minimum size for future years then i will buy it and go totally digital(well not me my son). the good thing about produb is it allows you to be totally legal using digital media,which is what people have been crying out for. needs a few tweaks yes,needs to be more awareness of the need for it yes. in reality it is still in it's infant stage and hopefully they will iron out the problems as they arrive and it is the best chance we have of getting a decent fair license. i wait for the secound year announcement to see if they really are listening to concerns,that will tell me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1963 View Post

    I recently emailed ProDub about possible changes to the bands & costs for those renewing in year two, and received a reply within a few days.
    And the answer was????????????????????

    Holds breath

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY K ROADSHOW View Post
    And the answer was????????????????????

    Holds breath

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    I posted the answer on here, Crazy...don't you remember?

    They told me that a proposal had been put to the board for a lower band at a reduced cost for year two, and it looked like it would be ratified, although nothing had yet been confirmed...but when it was all existing licence holder would be emailed with the details.

    I remember you responded by asking what my source of the infomation was.

    Ring any bells now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Veal View Post
    Thought I'd ask how you feel Pro Dub has worked for you?
    Quote Originally Posted by rob1963 View Post
    How has it worked for me? It's worked well, simply because it's allowed me to operate legally, unlike many.
    Precisely.

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    Absolutly, It does what it says. Just I wish it was enforced a lot better or even at all. I remember at BPM that nice man telling me that they were going to let it get established and not enforce it until the run up to christmas then at that point it would be heavily enforced with penalties for venues not checking out the eligibility of the acts they employ, I feel a bit let down. Thats all.
    Just wondered if i was alone in this thought -
    Every pub - social club etc I have struck a conversation with about it has never heard of it. But then I do come from Norfolk we do work a little slower here.
    Last edited by Richard Veal; 31-05-2009 at 07:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Veal View Post
    Absolutly, It does what it says. Just I wish it was enforced a lot better or even at all. I remember at BPM that nice man telling me that they were going to let it get established and not enforce it until the run up to christmas then at that point it would be heavily enforced with penalties for venues not checking out the eligibility of the acts they employ, I feel a bit let down. Thats all.
    Just wondered if i was alone in this thought -
    Every pub - social club etc I have struck a conversation with about it has never heard of it. But then I do come from Norfolk we do work a little slower here.
    Not just Norfolk Richard. Its around here to and I'll imagine its the same for the rest of the country. Produb doesnt apply to every DJ too so it takes a backseat to checks on Pat and PLI and even then Ive yet to be asked by a venue, customer or anyone else (apart from djs on here that offered me work) about this.
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