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Thread: Produb license query again!!!

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    Default Produb license query again!!!

    Hi,

    I need help, just found out I need a produb license as starting up Karaoke Business as I will be playing mine via my laptop from a karaoke software which I have bought, and the license that is £300 so thats fine as I believe I can claim that offf my tax so not too bad.

    I am ringing PRS on Monday but does anyone know I have a been a karaoke fan for years and always had the tracks on laptop for years as I have parties at home doing this for my own personal use. Now what I need to know because some of the CDG I have downoaded on my laptop are years old and I have misplaced the originals through moves, relationship break up etc but I had bought them where do I stand with that..

    People think I am worrying too much about this but dont want to be doing something against the law. Even spoke to a KJ and in my area and he dont even have this and been doing it years and never worried before.

    From looking at the different types of questions people have asked this is against the law so need to know the facts as internet saying so many different things..

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    If you do a search for Produb there are loads of different threads about it.

    You only need Produb if you have COPIED the karaoke discs to your laptop/external drive etc.

    If you have downloaded them DIRECT to your playout system (hard drive/laptop/rack mount pc then you DO NOT need Produb.
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    If I recall correctly, ProDub said the licence would cover you for copying/ripping from the date of your licence but couldn't rule out action against you (by the original artists / music companies) for any copying / ripping prior to your licence. I haven't heard of anyone buying the licence and then facing action for stuff they'd done previously so perhaps they wont pursue this once you have paid up. This isn't gospel, though, just my own thoughts on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discomobiledj View Post
    If you have downloaded them DIRECT to your playout system (hard drive/laptop/rack mount pc then you DO NOT need Produb.
    Is this a definite? If so that's the route i'm taking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMusic View Post
    Is this a definite? If so that's the route i'm taking!
    Yes that's correct. The Produb is solely for copying or format shifting your music. If you purchase your music online and download it directly to your hard drive you use at your gigs, then no produb is required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteDJ View Post
    Yes that's correct. The Produb is solely for copying or format shifting your music. If you purchase your music online and download it directly to your hard drive you use at your gigs, then no produb is required.



    Ta muchly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMusic View Post
    Is this a definite? If so that's the route i'm taking!
    That's what I'm doing. I use a combination of original CDs and tracks purchased from 7Digital.com downloaded to my disco external harddrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliteDJ View Post
    Yes that's correct. The Produb is solely for copying or format shifting your music. If you purchase your music online and download it directly to your hard drive you use at your gigs, then no produb is required.
    dose that not included your back-up? also somthing ive wondering how can you tell its been done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cj_The_Dj View Post
    dose that not included your back-up? also somthing ive wondering how can you tell its been done?
    Don't worry about it. There's ways and means

    Legislation is all around us. There are those that comply and those that chance it. The chancers will always come unstuck one way or another.

    If you don't want to get 'caught' then play by the rules. Buy the licence. Download tracks from legal sources or dub them from original physical media. Keep the originals. Keep your receipts. Keep within the limits. Then you're in a great position to challenge any allegations of wrongdoing.

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    With regards to karaoke and produb i heard that the prs do not own the rights to karaoke versions of songs? Therefore produb is not needed?

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