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Thread: My venue has sent an indemnity form - advice?

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    Default My venue has sent an indemnity form - advice?

    Hi got this through from a regular venue I provide services for.

    is this normal?

    The way I see it if someone breaks their leg jumping up and down to madness I can get sued? I also hold all liability for noise levels and will have to act as defendant in court if a case was brought up? Or does this mean if I play a track with swearing its my fault (which it is).

    Or if my equipment breaks I will have to pay damages if there is no disco and the wedding is ruined.
    The list goes on as it is very vague.

    I am not signing anything which puts my business at risk. I have only dj'd there personally three times this year anyway.


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    That is so pathetically vague and general it's ridiculous!

    I presume the venue is your client? Do you have a master contract/individual contracts for events already in place?

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    Also the last statement saye that it will be your responsibility for the music Does that inclunde the licence or music and dancing?
    Have to agree that It is rather vauge could be that they are asking for PLI insurance.

    I would double check

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    *shakes head*

    The venue is liable for any member of the public it admits. If a punter sues the venue for something the disco has done, the venue then sues the disco.
    It's up to the venue to ensure the entertainer has their own PLI in place, or don't let them in.
    That's how most council premises work. Simples
    There's nothing to stop a punter sueing the entertainer directly of course.....

    If the venue ain't prepared to accept liability in the first instance, i.e. if a punter gets hurt, then they shouldn't allow 3rd party entertainers in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corabar Entertainment View Post
    Do you have a master contract/individual contracts for events already in place?
    there is no contract as we are a prefered supplier. I did not want to get tied into anything.
    I could use this as ballast to do a contract with new terms as they are creaming allot of of what they charge the client.
    It is something like 30% and then they add the VAT!
    i can also stipulate that all dj bookings go through me (which they are anyway).

    They could then turn around and tell me where to go which is always the problem. We have supplied entertainment for a year without an issue however.

    Quote Originally Posted by MBK View Post
    at It is rather vauge could be that they are asking for PLI insurance.
    They have our PLI and are now asking for updated PAT for all performers.

    Quote Originally Posted by sleah View Post
    If the venue ain't prepared to accept liability in the first instance, i.e. if a punter gets hurt, then they shouldn't allow 3rd party entertainers in.
    Pillocks!
    Some people have nooooo idea
    So is this what this is. i think they are protecting themselves from noise issues too.

    At the end of the day I do not play there that often and the other Dj's are self employed.
    Could I get them to sign a from stating that so it would not come back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdj View Post
    So is this what this is. i think they are protecting themselves from noise issues too.
    Sounds like it, and potentially failing miserably

    When the council get complaints, they won't give a which individual was making the noise in the venue, they will just tell the venue to sort it or shut them down.

    When did you last hear of a venue being immune from the council closing them down or imposing conditions because they said it was the DJ's fault?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleah View Post
    Sounds like it, and potentially failing miserably

    When the council get complaints, they won't give a which individual was making the noise in the venue, they will just tell the venue to sort it or shut them down.

    When did you last hear of a venue being immune from the council closing them down or imposing conditions because they said it was the DJ's fault?
    They did have a noise limiter which kept going off when the crowd cheered.
    It was the ball ones that give no warning. they were basically being cheap skates.

    There are houses very near and they have disabled the limiter which i assume is a bit dodgy.
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    Surely if someone bumps into your gear whilst going mad dancing and they hurt themselves then YOU are covered with your public liability. They should have a PPL license (or whatever it is) for the music and the noise issuse should be monitored by the venue, hence the sound limiter?

    At the end of the day, the sound limiter has been put there for a reason (maybe by the council?), because, as you've explained...it's a residential area. If the levels are set correctly (and it's a pain in the backside for us), then in reality, there shouldn't be a problem should there? If you get a rowdy crowd then it's up to the hotel staff to calm them down.

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    Someone fell over the other day at a wedding and their ankle was VERY swollen. Got stretched out.
    This is the "music designated area" and I could get sues if i sign this and it happens again.

    the dance floor has loads of holes in it, she had no heels but could sue.

    i think this is why I am signing this tbh.

    Its in a rural area and there are usually people who complain if you fart within 20m of their house.
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    If they fell over on the dancefloor due to it being rubbish and not maintained then it's not your fault whatsoever.

    Blimey!!!! The next thing they'll be saying is "Can you just play slow music all evening so that no'one is in danger of hurting themselves".

    It sounds pathetic mate but by the sounds of this venue, well who knows!!?

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